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Volotea Second Officer
Dear Everyone
I saw on Volotea website that they are recruiting for Second officer Position...and now come the questions about the job offer:
- how is the life of a second officer in the first or second year? I mean for the salary, the schedule....
- after 2 years of ops seems there will be expansion for the near future,so it could be valuable a 717 TR ...what do you think?
I want to start a new thread with useful info from people who are inside and involved in volotea ops and not the only replies from someone who heard of someone who has a friend tha....
I saw on Volotea website that they are recruiting for Second officer Position...and now come the questions about the job offer:
- how is the life of a second officer in the first or second year? I mean for the salary, the schedule....
- after 2 years of ops seems there will be expansion for the near future,so it could be valuable a 717 TR ...what do you think?
I want to start a new thread with useful info from people who are inside and involved in volotea ops and not the only replies from someone who heard of someone who has a friend tha....
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Here some info.
Self Funded price of TR was last years 26K eu. Should be approx the same right now. You get Permanent Summer contract. Which means in few months you fly pretty much, but in winter at most 20 hours per month.
I had opportunity to start there last year, but I choose not to. Why?
- Because the pay is very bad. Till 1000 Hrs TT you earned last year 13 eu per block hour. NO BASIC Salary involved.
But now this year they changed that to 26 eu per block hour. Atleast a bit better.
After reaching 1000 Hrs TT you upgrade to FO. What the pay is from there I cannot tell.
Yes B717 is extremely rare, BUT it is a 50Ton Jet Aircraft Full Glass.
The bases are nice, but not very cheap so keep that in mind.
Good luck to the ones who apply.
Self Funded price of TR was last years 26K eu. Should be approx the same right now. You get Permanent Summer contract. Which means in few months you fly pretty much, but in winter at most 20 hours per month.
I had opportunity to start there last year, but I choose not to. Why?
- Because the pay is very bad. Till 1000 Hrs TT you earned last year 13 eu per block hour. NO BASIC Salary involved.
But now this year they changed that to 26 eu per block hour. Atleast a bit better.
After reaching 1000 Hrs TT you upgrade to FO. What the pay is from there I cannot tell.
Yes B717 is extremely rare, BUT it is a 50Ton Jet Aircraft Full Glass.
The bases are nice, but not very cheap so keep that in mind.
Good luck to the ones who apply.
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I also applied to these (I would say) swindlers late 2013 before I received their working conditions. This is what I got after and immediately declined the interview, just that I finished flight training for two years doesn't mean we should take jobs like this. Other times are coming, for sure. Just a quick summary of this programme; 16 euros per FLYINGhour until 500hrs (1000hrs I have heard they are introducing now), 26,5k for a type-rating for a Second Officer position on an airplane which is operated by a miniscule number of airlines in the world. 460euros non-refundable for just a selection. No guaranteed income during winter. just 400 hours per annum. I would say it is not hard to make decision, of course you have to make up your own mind, eventuelly after 10 years you will have a normal income on SPANISH level.
VOLOTEA CAREER
Your career in Volotea is based on meritocracy, where your time here matters, but more so your effort, attitude and contribution to achieve the company objectives, such as punctuality, cost efficiency and client service.
SHORT TERM
From Line Training, you will be hired as Second Officer with a salary of 13.5 Euros per block hour + 30 Euros per day of duty. The company model is to fly up to the maximum flying hours possible in summer –> June to September (close to 100 hours per pilot in August) and a reduced production in winter –> October to May. This means that during winter time the Second Officer will fly 10 to 20 monthly hours in approximately 3 to 7 days per month to keep him/her current (no flights will be programmed for new SOs in November, February and March) and 60 to 100 hours in 4 weeks per month during summer. For Second Officers, the flight time expected is approximately 400 hours at the first year after being released on line.
MEDIUM TERM
A Second Officer will be promoted to a First Officer level 2 position after completing 500 hours on the B717 and 1000 hours total time. The current salary for a new First Officer is 32€ per hour and 50€ per diem, raised to 40€ per hour when 2000 factorized (*) hours are reached.
The Senior First Officer salary is 50€ per hour and 50€ per diem.
LONG TERM
Most Second Officers entering VOLOTEA with 200 hours will become captains in approximate 5 years subject to performance.
UPGRADE REQUIREMENTS
As Second Officer you will be ready for an upgrade to First Officer level 2 upon reaching:
500 hrs. experience on type and
1000 hrs. total time.
As First Officer level 2 you will be ready for an upgrade to First Officer level 1 upon reaching:
2000 hrs. factorized (*) hours.
First Officers level 1 will be ready to upgrade to Senior First Officer when reaching 3000 hrs factorized and the upgrade to SFO evaluations passed; and then join an upgrade to Captain Programme after successfully passing the Command Upgrade Evaluations.
Selection process consists of:
Aviation Knowledge test
English test
Simulator check to be conducted at CAE Madrid
Those successfully completing the process go on to:
Psychometric test and final interview in Barcelona
The cost for the selection process is €460 -- (excluding taxes) and is non-refundable. Other related costs, e.g. travel, accommodation, etc. will be payable by the candidate.
TR Course details
This is a partially-sponsored program where the selected candidate will cover part of the costs related to the type qualification course:
TR Course content:
Operator conversion course: 2 weeks
Entry Level Training ELT B717 VPT: 1 week
Type rating course: 6 weeks
Base training: 6 TO/LDG
Line Training: minimum 125 hours
TR Course cost covered by the candidate: 26500 Euros
ELT B717 VPT in Barcelona
B717 type qualification course: ground school in Barcelona and simulator phase in Stockholm.
Price of the course covered by the candidate includes accommodation in shared double rooms and flight tickets from Barcelona to Stockholm.
Course is delivered entirely by VOLOTEA instructors
VOLOTEA CAREER
Your career in Volotea is based on meritocracy, where your time here matters, but more so your effort, attitude and contribution to achieve the company objectives, such as punctuality, cost efficiency and client service.
SHORT TERM
From Line Training, you will be hired as Second Officer with a salary of 13.5 Euros per block hour + 30 Euros per day of duty. The company model is to fly up to the maximum flying hours possible in summer –> June to September (close to 100 hours per pilot in August) and a reduced production in winter –> October to May. This means that during winter time the Second Officer will fly 10 to 20 monthly hours in approximately 3 to 7 days per month to keep him/her current (no flights will be programmed for new SOs in November, February and March) and 60 to 100 hours in 4 weeks per month during summer. For Second Officers, the flight time expected is approximately 400 hours at the first year after being released on line.
MEDIUM TERM
A Second Officer will be promoted to a First Officer level 2 position after completing 500 hours on the B717 and 1000 hours total time. The current salary for a new First Officer is 32€ per hour and 50€ per diem, raised to 40€ per hour when 2000 factorized (*) hours are reached.
The Senior First Officer salary is 50€ per hour and 50€ per diem.
LONG TERM
Most Second Officers entering VOLOTEA with 200 hours will become captains in approximate 5 years subject to performance.
UPGRADE REQUIREMENTS
As Second Officer you will be ready for an upgrade to First Officer level 2 upon reaching:
500 hrs. experience on type and
1000 hrs. total time.
As First Officer level 2 you will be ready for an upgrade to First Officer level 1 upon reaching:
2000 hrs. factorized (*) hours.
First Officers level 1 will be ready to upgrade to Senior First Officer when reaching 3000 hrs factorized and the upgrade to SFO evaluations passed; and then join an upgrade to Captain Programme after successfully passing the Command Upgrade Evaluations.
Selection process consists of:
Aviation Knowledge test
English test
Simulator check to be conducted at CAE Madrid
Those successfully completing the process go on to:
Psychometric test and final interview in Barcelona
The cost for the selection process is €460 -- (excluding taxes) and is non-refundable. Other related costs, e.g. travel, accommodation, etc. will be payable by the candidate.
TR Course details
This is a partially-sponsored program where the selected candidate will cover part of the costs related to the type qualification course:
TR Course content:
Operator conversion course: 2 weeks
Entry Level Training ELT B717 VPT: 1 week
Type rating course: 6 weeks
Base training: 6 TO/LDG
Line Training: minimum 125 hours
TR Course cost covered by the candidate: 26500 Euros
ELT B717 VPT in Barcelona
B717 type qualification course: ground school in Barcelona and simulator phase in Stockholm.
Price of the course covered by the candidate includes accommodation in shared double rooms and flight tickets from Barcelona to Stockholm.
Course is delivered entirely by VOLOTEA instructors
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Also who is to say they will last? Pretty much a summer only operation on a business model where other airlines have failed in the past. 717 is probably one of the most useless jet type ratings to have in 2014, there is really nowhere to go with that rating if the worst happens. Its a legit p2f but still one to exercise with caution.
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Only plus of the B717:
- JET in excess of 50T MTOW.
- Full EFIS.
Further an sad 5 years look out financially.
I also said no when I got ''opportunity'' to apply there and saw terms and conditions. It is really bad.
- JET in excess of 50T MTOW.
- Full EFIS.
Further an sad 5 years look out financially.
I also said no when I got ''opportunity'' to apply there and saw terms and conditions. It is really bad.
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Dont apply.
Crazy pie in sky salary, if people dont apply they cannot offer this!
Simples!! It is not like the market is flooded with qualified guys on the 717, they are taking the michael big time with this
Crazy pie in sky salary, if people dont apply they cannot offer this!
Simples!! It is not like the market is flooded with qualified guys on the 717, they are taking the michael big time with this
Guys they will get hundreds of applicants. They will have no trouble filling seats. People are paying to fly to the sum of 50k Euros. This job pays you!
The terms may be crap but it's stiii a job. The question is,
"Do you want hours in your logbook or not?"
All the Middle East carriers recognise 717 time. It is far from a "useless" type rating.
The terms may be crap but it's stiii a job. The question is,
"Do you want hours in your logbook or not?"
All the Middle East carriers recognise 717 time. It is far from a "useless" type rating.
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Oh dear
What a sad state of affairs.
How desperate must these poor people be to be paying to fly with a tin can third-rate operator like this.
Very sad. Better to get another job or change career altogether.
How desperate must these poor people be to be paying to fly with a tin can third-rate operator like this.
Very sad. Better to get another job or change career altogether.
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is there someone else recruiting beside ryan?...for people who have already the licence no
i know is not 737 or 320 but at least you start to log hours and once you get to fo the salary is getting better...
i know is not 737 or 320 but at least you start to log hours and once you get to fo the salary is getting better...
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All the Middle East carriers recognise 717 time. It is far from a "useless" type rating.