Flybe DHC8 F/O recruitment

[CaptainCriticalAngle]

Salaries

As I plan to be a captain within 5 years, that's not a bad salary range, not the best, but good nevertheless.

And btw, I love turboprops ... Q400, Twotter, 340, 2000, 228, Grand Caravan ...

[MetalGear]

Is the 90% ATPL exam requirement set in stone or are people getting in with less? I sit at 88% myself, would I be mad to put that on my cv on initial application or just mention it at interview if I were so lucky to be invited? Cheers guys.

[B_Con_Outbound]

A tiny bird told me there are over 15.000 names in FlyBe's database right now. Probably half of the names are already flying somewhere else.

So if there is only one guy who has to go through all the names .......good luck.

[Deano777]

I don't think the numbers are really relevant, 15,000 or 150,000, what difference does it make? I would imagine the online application has a filter, and then you just work down the list and call in the relevant people. How deep the list goes is only relevant if you hit the bottom and you still haven't got enough recruits.

[flying apprentice]

One ATO ?

How strict are they about being trained at one ATO ?

I did a non EASA PPL first
Then did the 14 ATPL exams with another ATO
Then did CPL in the USA and my IR in Europe with another two different ATOs.

So really don't fit the modular students must go you one ATO requirement. Is it still worth me applying with a TR, 300 jet hours right now and 850 hours total ?

Anybody else got in with similar background ?

[MetalGear]

"Is the 90% ATPL exam requirement set in stone or are people getting in with less? I sit at 88% myself, would I be mad to put that on my cv on initial application or just mention it at interview if I were so lucky to be invited? Cheers guys."

Any takers?

[cgwhitemonk11]

The 90% thing...

To answer the question regarding the 90%. Having spoken to the pilots who run the interviews they are aware this is a nonsensical requirement but it has been set by HR with the attitude that if people with that score apply then they are obviously the best candidates. Ridiculous I know and there is an awareness of this but unfortunately it is not the pilots who select the candidates, we just turn up for the interviews. Could you get in without it, probably, especially in the current climate of being called on every single day off due to lack of crew but the reality is no one quite knows how the candidates are selected through the system, thats a HR mystery, and as you can imagine most pilots tend to stay as far away from them as possible.

Not the most helpful post I realise but thats all i've got. Regarding the singular ATO for training, again this seems a ridiculous requirement in this day and age and I would certainly apply with the plan of explaining your reasons once you got an invitation. But again I am unsure as to wether the system that screens the applicants will automatically rule you out. I fly regularly with guys on the interview panel and they honestly don't know exactly what the screening process looks for.

[MetalGear]

That's great, thanks for the reply. I guess I'll throw my hat in the ring anyway.

[clamchowder]

It's easier to get a job with ezy or ryan than flybe. why waste your time? more money and job security too.

[Deano777]

Because you have to open your wallet, probably.

[Otto Throttle]

The idea that HR have anything to do with pilot recruitment or setting selection criteria is nonsense. It is handled, quite rightly, internally by the Flight Ops department and has been for many years. Most of the criteria were laid down under a previous, unlamented, frizzy haired management regime, which was notorious for its arbitrary policy making in many areas, including recruitment.

As for the recruiters themselves, the interview criteria are clearly specified. As to why the criteria is what it is, see above.

[cgwhitemonk11]

For the poster above I was using the term HR as a cover all for HR/Flight Ops but I can understand i should have been clearer, regardless they shall continue in their own way but surely with the mass exodus the tipping point is approaching. It is simply not acceptable for an airline to be cancelling flights on a daily basis due to lack of pilots and expecting customers to put up with it

[GAZ45]

I hear that a 'long radio silence' should be expected after applying to Flybe. All of the people I know waited a long time to hear back.

Although the other day I spoke to an oxford guy who claimed a friend of his was called to interview 3 weeks after applying 'through oxford' - didn't even know this was occurring. I also finished training alongside some oxford guys I know who have been called to ryanair within weeks of finishing training. I guess there is truth in the notion that CAE plonk their students CVs straight ontop of the pile then?

Us modulars will wait patiently in line

[goaround737]

With respect, i think it also depends on the quality of your application. I'm modular, i got a call for interview 6 days after applying.

[RWY_31R]

part time flying

Are there opportunities for going part time with Flybe?

[Deano777]

In effect, no. You won't see part time awarded for the foreseeable future. There's currently a waiting list for part time working in virtually every base, and without any being awarded to those on the front line, if you are a new joiner your chances are just about zero.

[Happy Wanderer]

I notice that Kura Aviation now seem to be placing a number of modular grads with Flybe if their Twitter feed is anything to go by and I've heard from two different sources that the airline will currently only look at FO applicants who have been through the Kura BESTPILOT airline preparation process. It may well be that Kura have been contracted as some sort of 'finishing school' provider.

Can anyone on the inside confirm or deny this please?

HW

[maxed-out]

It is true. They also had/have a link with BACF but BACF now appear to be in bed with CTC. If you want to spend circa 14k for a glorified JOC then go ahead. Flybe have been taking modular guys for years without the need for this "finishing school"!

Remember, the deal is that they will put you forward for interview following satisfactory completion of this course. You could have a bad day and flop in the interview. And the money keeps on rolling in.....

Sit tight, the market is improving. If you have to spend 14k then buy a TR on something useful. It is not good value to spend that on a JOC with the promise of an interview.

This is just my opinion of course.
mo

[jamie2004]

I was chatting to an ex British Calendonian Captain yesterday who wasn't aware of the current 'finding your first flying job' situation, he was horrified. It was interesting to hear his opinion on it. I know times have changed however it is a terrible shame that it can't be a level playing field considering we all have the same ticket in our hands when starting out.

I know money talks however paying 14K for a course certainly doesn't separate the men from the boys. Especially when we have already jumped through numerous hoops along the way.

I hope Flybe continue to recruit guys from all backgrounds, even those who haven't chosen to enrol on a course which isn't even reflected on your licence.

I have applied and am still waiting patiently for a call with my head held high.

[Primary Governor]

Silly question I'm sure but here it goes anyway!

Do Flybe pay for any travel costs to attend interview in Exeter?