Flybe DHC8 F/O recruitment
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Hi all,
Can someone please tell me if they do a sim check only a while after the interview or it's on the same day (like Ryanair)?
And in general, how long do you have after passing the interview (or sim assessment) to accept or decline the job offer?
Thanks!
Can someone please tell me if they do a sim check only a while after the interview or it's on the same day (like Ryanair)?
And in general, how long do you have after passing the interview (or sim assessment) to accept or decline the job offer?
Thanks!
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Hi Bearcat,
The sim will certainly not be on the same day. My friend had his interview towards end of September, then sim assessment a month later. Invitation to the sim depends on a successful interview.
I'm not sure about the how long you have to accept the job tbh.
Hope that partially helps!
Cheers,
The sim will certainly not be on the same day. My friend had his interview towards end of September, then sim assessment a month later. Invitation to the sim depends on a successful interview.
I'm not sure about the how long you have to accept the job tbh.
Hope that partially helps!
Cheers,
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Bearcat,
The answer is no, unless you are Q400 rated. It has been covered a number of times previously in this thread if you take the time to read it. There is lots of other good information here and I recommend you read that too. It's not exactly a big thread.
May I respectfully suggest you spend a bit more effort doing your research before you contemplate applying, as you will simply embarrass yourself at interview within the first five minutes. You will be expected to demonstrate a knowledge of the company and it's recent developments, and you won't get that by relying on Prooners to supply the answers for you. It requires thorough research and attention to detail.
Regardless how brilliant you may be in other respects, if you drop the ball at the early stages, you'll fail the interview. Trust me.
The answer is no, unless you are Q400 rated. It has been covered a number of times previously in this thread if you take the time to read it. There is lots of other good information here and I recommend you read that too. It's not exactly a big thread.
May I respectfully suggest you spend a bit more effort doing your research before you contemplate applying, as you will simply embarrass yourself at interview within the first five minutes. You will be expected to demonstrate a knowledge of the company and it's recent developments, and you won't get that by relying on Prooners to supply the answers for you. It requires thorough research and attention to detail.
Regardless how brilliant you may be in other respects, if you drop the ball at the early stages, you'll fail the interview. Trust me.
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I have no idea how you linked my question about the Q400 systems with my apparent inability to prepare for the interview in other areas but thanks for the answer 
P.S. I read through this thread before. I still had my reasons for asking.
P.S. I read through this thread before. I still had my reasons for asking.
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For those who end up in the sim it is well worth your while getting your hands on a picture of the PFD/MFD layout to get used to the instrument scan. Flybe aircraft now use speed tapes - disregard any photos/pictures of the old speed dial PFDs.
On larger aircraft it is important not to chase the GP. On approach make sure you bring your Groundspeed into your scan occasionally. This gives you your datum for VS. Slightly high - increase your VS by 100/200fpm until nearly back on the GP then ease it back to your datum RoD, reverse for low on GP.
Power setting changes on the q400 mean trim changes both normal ops and OEI. As with all assymetric flying minimise the number of power changes and make your life much easier.
Selecting Flap35 gives a balloon especially if you have a lot of power on (can't remember if the sim replicates that).
Remember to enjoy the experience too!
On larger aircraft it is important not to chase the GP. On approach make sure you bring your Groundspeed into your scan occasionally. This gives you your datum for VS. Slightly high - increase your VS by 100/200fpm until nearly back on the GP then ease it back to your datum RoD, reverse for low on GP.
Power setting changes on the q400 mean trim changes both normal ops and OEI. As with all assymetric flying minimise the number of power changes and make your life much easier.
Selecting Flap35 gives a balloon especially if you have a lot of power on (can't remember if the sim replicates that).
Remember to enjoy the experience too!
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The Dash needs rudder trim frequently throughout the flight due to the effect of power changes. Using the rudder pedals to maintain the aircraft in balance whilst making initial trim adjustment is quite normal. For minor adjustments in cruise, a shirt 'flick' of the rudder trim control is all that is required.
Some of the company's lazier pilots don't bother. They'll quite happily fly an out if trim aircraft all day long. There is also some nonsense peddled by certain individuals that you shouldn't use the rudder pedals in flight and as a result, some pilots are reluctant to use them as they're convinced the fin will snap off.
Rudder control on the aircraft is very effective, due to a long moment arm and a large control surface, but gentle rudder usage in flight is a non-issue. The best way to treat the pedals is to apply nothing more than light pressure, rather than a push. None of the aircraft controls require agricultural handling (but you'll still see it), but the rudder requires an especially light touch.
Either way you choose to fly it, for an initial sim assessment, I doubt they're looking for that kind of finesse. Safe and competent, with an ability to take instruction and show improvement throughout the profile is what I expect.
Some of the company's lazier pilots don't bother. They'll quite happily fly an out if trim aircraft all day long. There is also some nonsense peddled by certain individuals that you shouldn't use the rudder pedals in flight and as a result, some pilots are reluctant to use them as they're convinced the fin will snap off.
Rudder control on the aircraft is very effective, due to a long moment arm and a large control surface, but gentle rudder usage in flight is a non-issue. The best way to treat the pedals is to apply nothing more than light pressure, rather than a push. None of the aircraft controls require agricultural handling (but you'll still see it), but the rudder requires an especially light touch.
Either way you choose to fly it, for an initial sim assessment, I doubt they're looking for that kind of finesse. Safe and competent, with an ability to take instruction and show improvement throughout the profile is what I expect.
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Thank you for the detailed explanation, Otto!
Is there a yaw damper or another automatic system to keep the aircraft coordinated during turns or it's just like flying a big MEP?
Is there a yaw damper or another automatic system to keep the aircraft coordinated during turns or it's just like flying a big MEP?
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Spot on by otto throttle. There is a yaw damper but you'll have to use your feet in the turns, particularly at low dynamic pressures (slow). Captains are as bad as first officers for not using the rudder. It's very uncomfortable when you can feel your arse being pushed to one side because it's out of trim, and it looks very ungainly when you're flying with one wing down, and even then the penny doesn't drop sometimes.
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There is a yaw damper Bearcat but it won't keep you co-ordinated in a turn. Throttle's description of the handling of the Dash is excellent. I was very surprised how little force is required on the pedals to elicit a response and found myself over controlling the rudder in my initial sim sessions.
I use just a squeeze of rudder during a turn to keep her in balance with the autopilot engaged. Each power change will require a rudder input and a slight retrim, going from 50% or so to flight idle will require some good footwork, as will going the other way if you want to keep her in balance and fly her nicely. It's the use of rudder with power changes that I think is the most prevalent rather than in turns but soon it becomes second nature. So in conclusion, fly it like a massive, ridiculously overpowered MEP with a very sensitive rudder.
I use just a squeeze of rudder during a turn to keep her in balance with the autopilot engaged. Each power change will require a rudder input and a slight retrim, going from 50% or so to flight idle will require some good footwork, as will going the other way if you want to keep her in balance and fly her nicely. It's the use of rudder with power changes that I think is the most prevalent rather than in turns but soon it becomes second nature. So in conclusion, fly it like a massive, ridiculously overpowered MEP with a very sensitive rudder.
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The simtech 16 hour course seems the standard. It all depends really they have this idea that if you haven't passed the JOC recently you will fail the sim assessment, which has proven true many times particularly with instructors, however if you stick to your guns and take your chances you can get in without it, I did.
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Had this arrive today about 18 months after applying..........
Flybe Pilot Recruitment - we were very pleased to receive your application on line and continue to recruit First Officers for the foreseeable future.
Your patience is much appreciated as we have a very large number of pilots keen to fly on our Dash 8 Q400 fleet so it is taking some time to process everyone.
Please remember your application is a 'live' document and you can update your details at any time so that we have the latest info for our selection.
We are not able to respond to any individual emails regarding applications unless there is an issue with the system itself.
We are delighted to have your details and will do our very best to process them just as soon as we can.
Regards, Flybe Pilot Recruitment
Flybe Pilot Recruitment - we were very pleased to receive your application on line and continue to recruit First Officers for the foreseeable future.
Your patience is much appreciated as we have a very large number of pilots keen to fly on our Dash 8 Q400 fleet so it is taking some time to process everyone.
Please remember your application is a 'live' document and you can update your details at any time so that we have the latest info for our selection.
We are not able to respond to any individual emails regarding applications unless there is an issue with the system itself.
We are delighted to have your details and will do our very best to process them just as soon as we can.
Regards, Flybe Pilot Recruitment
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Everyone in Flybe's database received that email. I wouldn't read too much into it. Had the same from Wizzair, they were inundated with emails asking for updates so its easier to send a generic email asking for patience. I personally,gave up on Flybe after reading the last few posts. I have applied a year ago and there are cadets getting called days after applying. Plus, my joc isn't long enough and I'm over 30,not holding my breath.
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Same email "BE PATIENT" here...
So weird they send this, wtf? Applied a year ago almost and now they send this e-mail??
I mean, c'mon.. i know people of FTE Jerez who has been called for interview just right after the training, i don't know why they bother themselves into spreading the word 'patience' for all us.. hahaha
Anyway I gave up too with Flybe. I know a guy who has 2000 TT Turboprop in a similar aircraft (Saab 340) and doesn't even has the chance to interviewed! In the other hand there's one fresh FTE graduate with 150 TT just starting to fly for them a month ago.
Any sense on this??
i suppose it's like: "Oh YEAH of course let's pay that youngster a miserable wage, instead of picking up someone with experience on TP who will ask for a decent salary".
Aviation is crazy
So weird they send this, wtf? Applied a year ago almost and now they send this e-mail??
I mean, c'mon.. i know people of FTE Jerez who has been called for interview just right after the training, i don't know why they bother themselves into spreading the word 'patience' for all us.. hahaha
Anyway I gave up too with Flybe. I know a guy who has 2000 TT Turboprop in a similar aircraft (Saab 340) and doesn't even has the chance to interviewed! In the other hand there's one fresh FTE graduate with 150 TT just starting to fly for them a month ago.
Any sense on this??
i suppose it's like: "Oh YEAH of course let's pay that youngster a miserable wage, instead of picking up someone with experience on TP who will ask for a decent salary".Aviation is crazy
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Iceman747,
Flybe are recruiting heavily so every chance you will hear something so calm down and be grateful they have taken the time.
All experience levels looked at. I suggest you brush up on your grammer and change the attitude if you wish to succeed. The airlines do not want whining newly qualified illiterates who think the 'crazy industry' owes them something.
Get real chap.
Flybe are recruiting heavily so every chance you will hear something so calm down and be grateful they have taken the time.
All experience levels looked at. I suggest you brush up on your grammer and change the attitude if you wish to succeed. The airlines do not want whining newly qualified illiterates who think the 'crazy industry' owes them something.
Get real chap.
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i suppose it's like: "Oh YEAH of course let's pay that youngster a miserable wage, instead of picking up someone with experience on TP who will ask for a decent salary".
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Unless, of course, the youngster in question has been part-sponsored.
My guess is that an extra pair of hands has finally arrived in the office, now that it's recruitment instead of redundancy, and a veeeery large backlog is finally being dealt with.
It's a tedious and time consuming process, followed by babysitting of once desperate and enthusiastic beggars, who turn into spoilt whingers almost overnight, so patience my friends.
Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey.
My guess is that an extra pair of hands has finally arrived in the office, now that it's recruitment instead of redundancy, and a veeeery large backlog is finally being dealt with.
It's a tedious and time consuming process, followed by babysitting of once desperate and enthusiastic beggars, who turn into spoilt whingers almost overnight, so patience my friends.
Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey.
