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Old 28th Jul 2014, 11:12
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Don't preach to me about the irrelevance of it, I already know. But if they don't want "the" job, but just "a" job because they're desperate and want a break then that's even more reason to stop whining about it. If you want the job that badly then meet the minimum requirements, if not then look elsewhere. It really is that simple. Quite frankly if they're not interested in Flybe as a company but just want a job then personally I don't want them here.
And LSM if you want to talk about irrelevant costs and airlines then look no further than easyjet, Ryanair? And what about your mob? Jet2 isn't it? Offering 70% contracts, no pay until after line training and pay your own type rating? Preying on the desperate with irrelevant costs and terms and conditions? It stinks, luckily I was in a position to tell them where to stick their job. Very few airlines nowadays recruit the good ol' fashion way, maybe Monarch? Flybe is as close as it gets.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 19:07
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Flybe DHC8 F/O recruitment

The pilots who could benefit most are usually the same pilots who miss the point of the MCC!
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 21:00
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CC, what about those who need a job? Like you say, preying on the desperate. It is a scam, of sorts.

By the way I needed a job when I started at Jersey European. I'd never heard of them before I was told I had an interview with them. I did 15 years and 4 TRs (the first was a jet, without having a JOC) at Flybe and was in the top 100 of the seniority list when I left. But you wouldn't have me because I had no interest or knowledge of them before I started?

As for the rest, at least A TR is relevant to the job.

If you're that interested I was bonded on a 100% contract and never paid a penny up front. I did have to suffer 3 whole months on half pay but as my training took sooooo long I was given 3 weeks worth of salary in a lump sum as a gesture of goodwill (can you lot even remember what that means?) and I now earn more than a 10 year LTC at Flybe and fly less than 500 hours a year.
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Old 29th Jul 2014, 09:22
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Wingo, you do get paid whilst you're training, yes it's half pay but see my last post. 100% contracts are available with a bond, yes there are 70% contracts out there too and depending on your background you may or may not be bonded.

They're recruiting because they're expanding (do you remember what that means?) by 4 or 5 aircraft per year for the next 5 years so yes the cost base will go up.

The profit warning means they're not going to make as much profit as they expected, not a loss, and they've made a profit every year of their operation (do you remember what that's like?) but this year the market isn't as buoyant but we're still flying around with an 85-90% load factor (do you remember what that's like?)

Anyway, if one is going to pay for a job don't you think one will go for the job with the better prospects. Who do you think is going to pay extra money to fly a Dash? Probably those people who didn't get into Easy and are now desperate for a job, the very people CC doesn't want.

I don't have a Jersey hang up, neither do a laud something which doesn't deserves it. Maybe that's where your confusion lies.
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Old 30th Jul 2014, 17:32
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Flybe DHC8 F/O recruitment

A student from Simtech just passed sim assessment and starts in September
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Old 1st Aug 2014, 17:45
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See Airline Pilot Academy have launched a flight Instructor internship in conjunction with flybe, applications via their website www.apacademy.aero
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Old 6th Aug 2014, 06:20
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The joc length matters to jet2, I think they want a 14hr joc as a minimum.
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Old 8th Aug 2014, 16:23
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I also applied but do not have a JOC... I too am deciding whether to get one or not, but it was said here that you do not need one to apply, but it's needed for a sim check??
Can anyone expand on this... according to that statement, you MUST have a JOC prior to a sim assessment in that case.

As for the hours, as the application does not state any requirement, I presume any length is acceptable.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 11:38
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Originally Posted by elmore81 View Post
The joc length matters to jet2, I think they want a 14hr joc as a minimum.
That's because you'll be flying an actual jet.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 12:52
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As I said a number of people were interviewed by flybe without a JOC.
Subsequently were asked to complete a joc at simtech, which was i also understand was conducted with flybe sops.

I personally see this as a revenue generating scheme for simtech.

However it shows that you don't need a joc to apply and it may infact be more prefereable if they can line you up as a customer for simtec rather than turning up with any joc course.

If you are the sort of candidate flybe want then it will be irrelevant if you have a joc for reasons given above.

From the candidates i met it was good to see one or two were high hour instructors, though most appeared to be young low hour newbies which I suspect were from approved flybe schools. In other words it is not worth doing a speculative joc to get selected by flybe.
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Old 9th Aug 2014, 23:31
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From the candidates i met it was good to see one or two were high hour instructors, though most appeared to be young low hour newbies which I suspect were from approved flybe schools. In other words it is not worth doing a speculative joc to get selected by flybe.
By selected Flybe schools you meant the candidates that graduated recently and were sent by the schools,or have you met anyone who applied online,also from approved schools?
I graduated back in 2012,applied,not heard a thing yet.. I'd hope they put us out of our misery by now but I understand Flybe's recruitment team is severely overloaded with work.
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Old 10th Aug 2014, 08:55
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Well to clarify I wasn't on the JOC course, but I was at simtec the week one of the Flybe JOCs was being run.

I didn't get to quiz every candidate on the JOC course to know the exact background, so I couldn't answer your question to that detail.

I did say "suspect" were from Flybe approved schools, though I may not be 100% correct. But with the number of applications it would seem logical that the approved school list would be used as a filter.

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Old 18th Aug 2014, 17:17
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It's gone quiet on this thread, any word on when the rest of us might get a look in?
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Old 18th Aug 2014, 21:10
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I guess CTC/CAE chiefs are smoking cigars as we speak…colleague of mine was interviewed last week, he says he only saw CTC/OAA cadets there,take it with a pinch of salt tho! I just hope Flybe have the decency and common courtesy of sending the rejection emails to candidates. Nothing worse than being treated with contempt when job hunting
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Old 19th Aug 2014, 04:44
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It's good to get that closure with a PFO but they have saved themselves the hastle by detailing that individuals will not be contacted.
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Old 13th Sep 2014, 12:05
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Update

Update direct from HR:

''This recruitment process will be ongoing for up to the next 12 months''

Through friends and other sources I have learned this much:

It is not closed, they need up to 60 FO's this year
They have no sim space to conduct assessments and have people who have passed interview awaiting until possibly October for an assessment date.
An equal number of cadets, experienced TP guys, RAF guys and instructors have been getting interviews.
Interviews can come on VERY short notice so be prepared.

Lastly, if you don't have a JOC you CAN still interview but you must be willing to go do a JOC before starting your TR or preferably before attending your sim assessment and they recommend Simtech for this but don't mandate where you do it as far as i know.

Hope this is as encouraging to others as it has been to me

good luck to all
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Old 13th Sep 2014, 12:26
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Can anyone confirm (or dismiss) that the farcical "90%-average-on-ATPL- subjects and one-stop-modular-route" rules have been implemented?

Never heard a been from these guys despite >1000 hrs TP experience. Not holding my breath, though.
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Old 17th Sep 2014, 08:21
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Hi, Has anyone got any info. regarding interview for experienced bod?
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Old 1st Nov 2014, 03:54
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Unless the format has completely changed, expect about 15 or so HR type questions where you will be expected to answer with "give an example of a time when".

There will also be a small number of technical questions. Unless you are type-rated, these will be generic questions on aerodynamic theory or systems knowledge, with the level of difficulty determined by the flying experience of the candidate. These are generally not the questions where candidates fail.

Expect two interviewers, one from Flight Ops, one a current line pilot.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 17:06
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Congrats BShute. have you managed to get many hours since finishing your training and how old are you?
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