Flydubai B737NG Type Qualification Program
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When did you guys apply? I hit apply on the CAE website just out of curiosity at the start of March but haven't heard anything. Beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with my CAE profile - I tried to apply for the Ryanair MCC ages ago but never heard anything...
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So if someone posts something positive on this forum, your first reaction is to assume that they are either being disingenuous, lying, or both!...
As i said, i joined up and i posted to try to give some balance to all the negativity on this thread. Anyone reading it would think that there is no chance of getting a job! Where as, in fact, i know of 4 ppl, other then myself who have been offered SO positions but are waiting to start, another guy that it waiting for his interview, as well as at least 2 other ppl who are already flying as SOs.
So to those who wish to be negative about everything... Enjoy the job search!
I rolled the dice, worked my butt off, grabbed the opportunity with both hands and achieved the perfect job for me!
As i said, i joined up and i posted to try to give some balance to all the negativity on this thread. Anyone reading it would think that there is no chance of getting a job! Where as, in fact, i know of 4 ppl, other then myself who have been offered SO positions but are waiting to start, another guy that it waiting for his interview, as well as at least 2 other ppl who are already flying as SOs.
So to those who wish to be negative about everything... Enjoy the job search!
I rolled the dice, worked my butt off, grabbed the opportunity with both hands and achieved the perfect job for me!
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I am skeptical of what you say 1234567890987654321 because considering the relatively short period of time this has been open for I find it hard to believe that people are already flying on the line even if they put their application in on day one.
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Need assistance to Judge scenario better
How many hours do you have exactly/background?
Which country do you belong to?
When did you do your type rating?
What kind of an interview do they have post SIM assessment..Technical or HR type (Could you kindly enlighten us)?
Also what selection rate have you seen?
How many hours do you have exactly/background?
Which country do you belong to?
When did you do your type rating?
What kind of an interview do they have post SIM assessment..Technical or HR type (Could you kindly enlighten us)?
Also what selection rate have you seen?
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Wow im impressed
Thats then in theory at least 12 TR done in what 2 months, and for a couple to be on line as well even better.
My friends that are on type, passed the CTC parts etc have around 4 months to wait as they dont have enough line trainers to physically get everyone done that quick.
Those that where non TR are waiting 6+ months at the moment.
Thats then in theory at least 12 TR done in what 2 months, and for a couple to be on line as well even better.
My friends that are on type, passed the CTC parts etc have around 4 months to wait as they dont have enough line trainers to physically get everyone done that quick.
Those that where non TR are waiting 6+ months at the moment.
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The Course
Successful candidates will be placed on one of the training courses. These courses start at various intervals throughout the year and run for approximately 6 months.
Successful candidates will be placed on one of the training courses. These courses start at various intervals throughout the year and run for approximately 6 months.
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Who said the program started 2 months ago?... Yet again, theories bounded about as facts... You know what they say about assumptions...
People come onto this forum for information, not to play games or argue pointlessly with other posters. If you have some credible information then please share it.
For those who don't know any better we have only what is on the CAE website to go on when looking at this programme. If you know more then please explain, or if you don't wish to share information, which I understand may be the case, then don't post at all.
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Credible information? Read my posts again and you will see that is exactly what i have given you! I have been asked for personal information about me which i am not willing to post online. I have also been asked for an exact ratio of people who were offered a job versus people who weren't. I am not able to give a number because i don't know how many people attempted the type rating or interview. I have told you how many people that i know got through, and at which stages they are at.
I only posted in the first place to give some balance to Alive's posts. I find it telling that negative posts are warmly welcomed and positive posts are viewed with heavy suspicion. The negativity on this forum is astounding, and i fear it is putting many people into a downward spiral.
Think positively guys! Sure there arn't many opportunities out there, and nothing is guaranteed, but negativity breeds negativity, and unfortunately, in forums, it finds it's perfect habitat!...
Regarding the Flydubai program, sure its a big risk, with a lot of money on the line and many hoops to jump through, but i chose to do it because the reward is so big! You also have to ask yourself, what are your other options? I searched for a job for a year without a single interview! Without this program, i probably would still be waiting for one! Im not saying the program is perfect, and im not saying you should do it, but i am saying that it is a credible program, with a huge reward if you make it through!
I only posted in the first place to give some balance to Alive's posts. I find it telling that negative posts are warmly welcomed and positive posts are viewed with heavy suspicion. The negativity on this forum is astounding, and i fear it is putting many people into a downward spiral.
Think positively guys! Sure there arn't many opportunities out there, and nothing is guaranteed, but negativity breeds negativity, and unfortunately, in forums, it finds it's perfect habitat!...
Regarding the Flydubai program, sure its a big risk, with a lot of money on the line and many hoops to jump through, but i chose to do it because the reward is so big! You also have to ask yourself, what are your other options? I searched for a job for a year without a single interview! Without this program, i probably would still be waiting for one! Im not saying the program is perfect, and im not saying you should do it, but i am saying that it is a credible program, with a huge reward if you make it through!
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When I first spoke with CAE we where informed that successful candidates it would take between 4-6 months to reach the line.
My group where the very first batch to complete the programme and nobody made it through to Fly Dubai.
We where also informed off record that for candidates making it through that possible start dates could be delayed due to limited slot times at OMDB throughout May & June & that the entire airline was downsizing during this time.
FZ programme only received approval from GCAA in December 2013
There are some facts on this programme
My group where the very first batch to complete the programme and nobody made it through to Fly Dubai.
We where also informed off record that for candidates making it through that possible start dates could be delayed due to limited slot times at OMDB throughout May & June & that the entire airline was downsizing during this time.
FZ programme only received approval from GCAA in December 2013
There are some facts on this programme
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No issue if you don't want to share your flight hours..you could at least tell us the kind of interview they conduct post SIM assessment. Is it technical? HR? Written?
No issue if you don't want to share your flight hours..you could at least tell us the kind of interview they conduct post SIM assessment. Is it technical? HR? Written?
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We all past the type rating with CAE, but FLyDubai are looking for 737 experts that can answer any question on the many systems, fly well in the sim etc, I just don't think you can show them the standard they are looking for straight out of school and a few FFS sessions
Also you are not allowed to hmmm and ahhhh about questions they ask on the skill test day, they want quick positive answers and if you cant answer like all of us couldn't they make you feel like its all over before you have even begun
Its tough
Its my opinion
I gave it my all
Also you are not allowed to hmmm and ahhhh about questions they ask on the skill test day, they want quick positive answers and if you cant answer like all of us couldn't they make you feel like its all over before you have even begun
Its tough
Its my opinion
I gave it my all
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Aviation in General
Dear All,
I have been following this thread for the last couple of months and I am considering the option that CAE/EMIRATES training centre is offering. I am graduated since 2010 at the CAE flight academy in the Netherlands and since then I kept training on the B737-NG certified simulator every month to keep up skills and improve the CRM in general. To me, this is mandatory to be interested for the Ailrine industries. Since graduation I have made more then 120 hours on the B737 sim and to be honest; my level of being a pilot has doubled since my graduation...
I do want to say a couple of things about the attitude that some of you seem to have in general;
This program offers a CHANCE for pilots that are aware of their skills and know that they are up to date if it comes to flying and CRM skills. What Alive is saying about making a drop of 300 ft on a steepturn sounds to me if you have not considered this chance accurately..I do find it sad for you that you have not been invited, but saying that this program is not good or should not be trusted is a little bit too overjudged..
If I read the requirements and options that could be offered to pilots, it is not that much different compared to i.e. Ryanair... Try to think about the fact dat a Ryanair TR costs 30k instead of the 21k from Flydubai ( if you have already a JOC ofcourse ), and that Ryanair does not guarentee you with a job.. you receive a 0 hour contract ( and ofcourse as we all know you will be flying 800 hours a year --> If your base is a good one.. )
If you all are F-ATPL pilots and want to become an Airline pilot, stop discussing about the benefits that airlines and the aviation industry is making, wake up --> ofcourse they are having porches and ferrari's at CAE/EMIRATES training centre, Dubai itself is full with these kinds of cars...
As long as you admire the life and work as an airline pilot you should accept that the airlines and aviation industry is using you as an employee.. come on guys, the moment you started your initial flight training you should have considered this..right?!!
Please see my comment as a positive feedback from a colleague F-ATPL pilot who is also in search of his dreamjob, but keep up and try to see the positive signs instead of the negatives...
NOTE: I am a just a Flying Dutch Men and not somebody from Dubai or whatever... keep focussing on what is important guys --> FLYING
All the best to you all,
Cheers,
B.van E.
I have been following this thread for the last couple of months and I am considering the option that CAE/EMIRATES training centre is offering. I am graduated since 2010 at the CAE flight academy in the Netherlands and since then I kept training on the B737-NG certified simulator every month to keep up skills and improve the CRM in general. To me, this is mandatory to be interested for the Ailrine industries. Since graduation I have made more then 120 hours on the B737 sim and to be honest; my level of being a pilot has doubled since my graduation...
I do want to say a couple of things about the attitude that some of you seem to have in general;
This program offers a CHANCE for pilots that are aware of their skills and know that they are up to date if it comes to flying and CRM skills. What Alive is saying about making a drop of 300 ft on a steepturn sounds to me if you have not considered this chance accurately..I do find it sad for you that you have not been invited, but saying that this program is not good or should not be trusted is a little bit too overjudged..
If I read the requirements and options that could be offered to pilots, it is not that much different compared to i.e. Ryanair... Try to think about the fact dat a Ryanair TR costs 30k instead of the 21k from Flydubai ( if you have already a JOC ofcourse ), and that Ryanair does not guarentee you with a job.. you receive a 0 hour contract ( and ofcourse as we all know you will be flying 800 hours a year --> If your base is a good one.. )
If you all are F-ATPL pilots and want to become an Airline pilot, stop discussing about the benefits that airlines and the aviation industry is making, wake up --> ofcourse they are having porches and ferrari's at CAE/EMIRATES training centre, Dubai itself is full with these kinds of cars...
As long as you admire the life and work as an airline pilot you should accept that the airlines and aviation industry is using you as an employee.. come on guys, the moment you started your initial flight training you should have considered this..right?!!
Please see my comment as a positive feedback from a colleague F-ATPL pilot who is also in search of his dreamjob, but keep up and try to see the positive signs instead of the negatives...
NOTE: I am a just a Flying Dutch Men and not somebody from Dubai or whatever... keep focussing on what is important guys --> FLYING
All the best to you all,
Cheers,
B.van E.
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300ft loss on sim skill test day and you say perhaps airline flying isn't for me? We where under a lot of pressure that day and nothing went right for us, in previous sessions my S turns where great. Have you never made a silly mistake in the sim?? Your not very tolerant
Listen not only did I not get interviewed 4 others did not & the 2 that did, did not get the gig either so make of it what you will, I have since learned that it is a money making scam for CAE, FZ and a couple of heads of department.
I can't believe you wasted additional money in the sim to keep current each month! What a waste, you claim 120 hrs level D sim of which 40 would have been your initial TR, so that 80 hrs @ whatever rate you paid say average $600 per hour and that's being on the cheaper side it equates to $30,000!!! My god you could have got 500 hours LT at eagle jet with that. And for what?? To improve your skills
Listen not only did I not get interviewed 4 others did not & the 2 that did, did not get the gig either so make of it what you will, I have since learned that it is a money making scam for CAE, FZ and a couple of heads of department.
I can't believe you wasted additional money in the sim to keep current each month! What a waste, you claim 120 hrs level D sim of which 40 would have been your initial TR, so that 80 hrs @ whatever rate you paid say average $600 per hour and that's being on the cheaper side it equates to $30,000!!! My god you could have got 500 hours LT at eagle jet with that. And for what?? To improve your skills
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Reply to Alive
Dear Alive,
Despite my positive feedback to this thread, I see you can only look at the negative lines in my reply.
If you think that I mean that you do not have the skills to fly for an airline, maybe you should again read the reply carefully, I only ment that there are people who were hired and ofcourse, also people who did not get hired ( welcome to the real world ). But if you do not get hired, why are you claiming that this program is not ''ok''? Perhaps you should have considered this before you started this TR?
About the simhours I fly each month; 600USD? --> could be if the simulators were finished with a nice shine of gold...
In my opinion, if you would like to be interested for airlines you should keep training and improve all of your skills ( including your personal ones! ), but let's say that different opinions do excist between all pilots throughout the globe.
All the best to you.
Despite my positive feedback to this thread, I see you can only look at the negative lines in my reply.
If you think that I mean that you do not have the skills to fly for an airline, maybe you should again read the reply carefully, I only ment that there are people who were hired and ofcourse, also people who did not get hired ( welcome to the real world ). But if you do not get hired, why are you claiming that this program is not ''ok''? Perhaps you should have considered this before you started this TR?
About the simhours I fly each month; 600USD? --> could be if the simulators were finished with a nice shine of gold...
In my opinion, if you would like to be interested for airlines you should keep training and improve all of your skills ( including your personal ones! ), but let's say that different opinions do excist between all pilots throughout the globe.
All the best to you.
