CTC Qatar Wings

[pilotchute]

Korean,

FFS is NOT considered the same as time in the aircraft. I don't know of one reputable CAA that will count it towards your total time.

That is why all the airline ads for crew stipulate that SIM time isn't counted towards the minimums for employment.

[chocsaway08]

Korean, If you were to fail or were not in the upper 50% of the final PAT test do not expect any monies returned. I think you have misunderstood the criteria.

It will only be returned if a candidate fails "despite best endeavours" which would not mean if you got to the end and your marks were not quite high enough to be employed by QR you would be let go with £69k and a pat on the back.

[Korean]

thank you for the concerns

i understand theres alot of risk.

life is too short to take account of all the risks.

i will worry about tomorrow's worry the day after tomorrow.

but sincerely thank you. i hope we all can achieve our dreams

[amarbond]

Hi guys!

How early do you need to apply for the Qatar wings course?

I finish my exams June, so should I apply now?

[BradHarris]

Qatar Wings Selection (not quite 18)

I have recently applied to the Qatar Wings program, however, I am 17 years and 7 months old. I know you must be 18 to start but does anyone know if this will stop me from going through selection and having the chance of being selected to start a few months later?

Thanks in advance!

[ryan1995]

Hi
I applied when I was still 17. They got back to me 3 days before my 18th birthday saying I couldn't apply yet but to email them when I turned 18 if I was still interested!
So in brief - yes it will stop you. Just wait a few more months - I can't see them closing the application window any time soon.

[BradHarris]

Thanks!

Okay thanks very much for the help! Did you go through selection for Qatar in the end? If so how was it?

[Luke SkyToddler]

Doha is no place for a wide eyed single 17-year-old

I really really recommend you kids to actually visit and spend a few days there so you have even 1% of an idea of what you're getting into if you go down the road of this scheme.

And if your parents are paying for it then for god's sake take them too, so they can see what hell they are about to cast little Johnny into

[Flyinguys]

Qatar cadet CTC Program

Hey i have recently recieved a email from CTC qatar airways for a second stage interview. They are asking me to pay £210 for registration. I just want to know what exactly happens in stage 2-3 and is it worth travelling so far and what basis are selection made .? Any other info's will also be helpful.

Thank You

[ryan1995]

I got through to stage 2 of the BA FPP so I chose instead to go for that as after some thought I didn't really want to move to Qatar and spend in excess of £100,000 on training which would've meant putting my parents' house at risk to secure the loan. But unfortunately I didn't pass that stage.

I would also take into account what Luke is saying - originally I thought Doha would be amazing - who wouldn't want to live in a rich, hot country. But after a bit of research my opinion changed somewhat - enough to put me off it!

[BradHarris]

Doha

Well that's a shame but at least there're other routes in!

And I see the point you're both making and I know it wouldn't be easy at first moving to a place like that, but I'm the kind of person who'd rather go somewhere different, maybe even a bit dangerous for the adventure. That's one of the reasons the scheme appealed to me.

[funkyt111]

Wow....Just wow....I am well and truly disgusted. I won't ever even fly with them in the future let alone work for them. I knew it was bad but I didn't think it was this bad.

[rickycari]

I have been selected for Phase 4 but still waiting for my date. can anyone tell what to expect for the phase 4 assessment, is it in sim like other cadet wing assessment or is just an interview like phase 3. How long does it last and are we presented with a contract that time and around how many get selected,

second thing any idea when they are going to have the next phase 4 assessment

[Korean]

me same waiting for phase 4.

hope somebody gives us some information.

[rickycari]

yes if someone can just tell little bit about the phase will be greatly appreciated can also pm me about it if they dont mind

[Wirbelsturm]

Here's some information.


Read the article posted in post 233, it's an eye opener and also very true.
I asked a Qatar crew member about it last night and she was very reticent to answer apart from that they had been told not to talk about the article in question nor to answer any questions about the living arrangements in Doha on fear of dismissal.


Don't just look at a job go and look at where you will be living and what the lifestyle will be. Believe me it is not pleasant.


Please, please, please think hard before you pay out such large sums of money for a job that has absolutely no job security whatsoever.


Job markets will be moving in the near future, Qatar is not the only option out there, go get a job flying something fun before you go to the boring stuff.

[Stone_cold]

Try to justify anything you wish , the rules can apply to anyone , anytime and anywhere they wish . If you think they treat the pilots differently , think again . You know that you need an exit permit to leave the country . You can and will be punished for things not associated with the job . Do you know that CC and pilot CRM mixed was stopped for over one year , just because the CEO didn't want the 2 groups to mix ( what the hell is CRM then ). You think this is normal ? Do you know it is up to QR to allow the QCAA to release your license validation . Do you know that for the privilege of obtaining your exit permit your are REQUIRED to pay 100 Euro !! And according to the EVPO HR , this is for your convenience !! So even if you want to take the single exit permit , this option is not available to pilots . What about the Fleet manager who prevents pilots from fleet transfer for a single "average grade " , yet nothing is said when he cocks up his Sim . And unless your religion prohibits it , whose f**kn business is it if you party or drink , as long as you are legal for your duty . If they want only non-drinkers , then they should state this . Why is it that he can control who you socialize with ?? You cannot see that this is abnormal !! He cannot prevent the locals from entertaining the CC , so again if one seeks a relationship ,no problem , as long as you are not a Pilot .Hypocrisy . He is a control megalomaniac .But if you don't appreciate freedom and respect then it can be a good thing . So go for it and hope that you don't make any mistakes .

[funkyt111]

I really cannot understand why anybody would consider working for a company that has policies such as "You can be dismissed without us having to give you a reason". What if you meet the CEO and he decides he just doesn't like you? There is no security whatsoever. I have re-emphasise what Wirblestum has said; think very very hard before parting with large sums of cash for this company. Speak with your family members and friends and get their advice too.

[momo95]

Its qr's business if u drink and go nightclubbing to the wee hours on specific rest days seeing as though you signed a contract pledging not to ! Don't like it ? THEN DON'T JOIN !!! Stop trying to discourage those that don't drink etc just because you had, or know someone that had a bad experience. Play by the book you'll be ok, break the rules and you'll be gone, SIMPLE.
Now while I disagree with how qr deal with dismissals and AAB's handling of certain things, you agreed to comply by it when joining. It's the equivalent of joining the miliatry and then complaining that you can't live your old life, do you then blame the military ?? Of course not, it's your fault for not doing proper research !!! The girl in the article did break the rules, she wasn't sacked for no reason whatsoever. The rules may be odd, but if you feel like you're not gonna like it, then more fool you for joining.
Don't take this as me defending the rules, what i'm saying is it's your own fault for signing up to a set of rules you knew you couldn't comply with, don't blame the company when you decide you don't wanna follow them anymore and you get caught doing something you weren't supposed to !!!

[Stone_cold]

Actually , sometimes you don't . All the ins and outs are not fully disclosed to cc or flight deck until you are there . Hence the reason for forums such as this . If YOU don't like it , then don't read it . you have had a good experience so far . I wish that it changes so that you can see how quickly the gold turns to . but even one bad experience is worth others knowing . so that as you suggest , others can decide to join OR NOT !!