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Old 8th May 2013, 14:03
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Anyone know how the bases would be allocated and at what point in the process ?

If its not done until the training is complete are there any bases that are known to require first officers ? (ie on the non type rated thread it seems to be that most new captains are sent to gatwick, so is Gatwick a base with lots of cadets too?)

I'd be perfectly happy with Luton, Gatwick, Stansted or Southend. Other than that it starts to get difficult to pull up the roots.

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Old 8th May 2013, 16:48
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Daveandg, you've pretty much got it spot on. 1200 a month for the first 8 months, then £45 an hour after that on Flexi. For the others sounding confused, yes there will be a few months where you'll be paid £1200 and have a loan repayment of anything up to £1000. Not much spare change to live eh? Most cadets seem to live at home or borrow off parents to pay the bills.

The figure Richard gave of £40000 a year is fairly accurate for the package as a whole. However that is pre tax, so monthly take home realistically is just over £2000 a month. So a grand in your hand per month after your loan repayment. That's quite realistic.
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Old 8th May 2013, 18:12
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Am I missing something here or is, in some respects, the OAA programme with Parc contract at the end a better deal?

I mean if one works on the assumption that the candidate has taken out a loan of similar size for both and has a repayments that are similar monthly rates the Parc contract, before the bond repayments kick in after two years for the CTC one, seems better initially.

There doesn't seem to be much CTC info on their website and I'm somewhat struggling to understand the detail here!
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Old 8th May 2013, 19:05
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Was that not the case in the good old days of a 69k bond. Now the total cost is 100k you would just join as Flexi and begin on the per hour rate? The old way the 1200 training salary ensure the type rating was sorted? Or not?
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Old 8th May 2013, 22:58
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easyJet MPL scheme - Oxford Aviation Academy

Hi all

I have recently made it through to day 2 assessment for this scheme. Any pointers on the best way to prepare for the interviews both group and individual?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this thread already exists!
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Old 9th May 2013, 00:22
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Hello there buddy.

Congratulations on getting to the interview stage. I wish you all the very best of luck. Im waiting for my ctc phase 2. Just applied to OAA aswell and got through to selection stage. I it possible to give me run through of what the day was about. I am aware of it but it will he,p me further more with my prep expecially with a source who has been through it.

Much appreciated.
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Old 9th May 2013, 08:28
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To all of you applying for the easyJet scheme I feel you'd be well advised to read this thread on the company. I'm not going to get into whether the information is right or wrong (frankly, I do not know) but it's an eye opener nonetheless and one which has made me seriously consider my application to the scheme.

Do any of the EZY guys who've posted on this thread know the latest situation (bearing in mind the linked thread is nine months or so old)?
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Old 9th May 2013, 12:10
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Naturals, a lot of information has been posted here already.
Just read the thread..
I've actually read the thread start to finish three or four times already. I understand the financial arrangements (at least, I understand those which easyJet have announced, I believe some details remain TBC).

To me the big sticking points with the flexi are:
  • The location seems to be up in the air and decided by EZY. Great for the younger guys and girls and who might actually like the uncertainty and chance to live overseas but for those of us with families this is a big deal. For those with EZY, how much say to you get in your home base? If you don't get your first choice how long does it take to get somewhere nearer to family?
  • The flexi contract is three years which equates to £36k of the bond paid back out of salary. Effectively the other 2/3rds is at risk if they don't offer you permanent employment / extend the flexi with similar terms. The scare stories of relocation with a pay cut mentioned on the other thread make this really risky in my mind.
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Old 9th May 2013, 15:22
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If you're fussy about where you want to be based then perhaps the course isn't for you. With any of the CTC partner airlines you can get based anywhere and you take what you're given. For easyjet specifically it is much the same. You can stay flexicrew and not leave the UK or you can wait until you are eligible for a UK contract. You are not forced to work abroad. Barring BA (London) you will not get to choose where you work.

After 3 years your experience will hopefully be a commodity that can take you elsewhere. If you are not offered perm employment you can go and work for someone elsewhere. There will be little difference in salary if you choose your new employer well. The bond gets repaid, this is correct, but you are on a reduced salary in the mean time which means you are effectively on the same salary as someone on a full contract with no outstanding bond, only difference is you are not liable for tax on £12k of your annual salary. You could both take home £36k before tax so leaving for another airline on a full contract with a £36k salary will not really leave you that worse off.
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Old 9th May 2013, 16:05
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Got my assessment for OAA My CTC app is being processed too so might get lucky and get offered two assessments !

OAA anyone kindly tell me what to study wise for the assessment ? My maths and physics are rusty ...
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Old 9th May 2013, 16:09
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OAA anyone kindly tell me what to study wise for the assessment ?
Congratulations!

Have a look at the BAA FPP thread and the more general OAA one. There's loads of advice on there. Also have a look on the OAA official forums - one of the guys working for OAA have written quite a good guide on what to expect on the day. I found the thread on the OAA page most informative.
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Old 9th May 2013, 20:28
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OAA guys - how long did it take after Day 1 to be given the yes/no?
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Old 10th May 2013, 17:38
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OAA anyone kindly tell me what to study wise for the assessment ?
I found a good way of preparing myself for airline assessments at FTOs such as OAA or CTC was to use this website;

PAT | PilotAptitudeTest.com - Practise for COMPASS Tests and PILAPT Tests

It had plenty of sample questions in both maths & physics, which were along the same lines as the questions experienced in assessment. It also has hand/eye coordination and other simulator style apps included.

Having taken the assessment for OAA, i found that having used this site it benefited me greatly in my preparation and I went into the assessment feeling more confident in my ability to be successful.

As Naturals says, using the OAA forum also gives some good advice on what can be expected on the day. while having the information on what to expect is greatly beneficial, it is even more beneficial to have practical experience of sample assessments.

If you fail to prepare, be prepared to fail.
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Old 30th May 2013, 23:48
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Same here mate, congrats all round!

Were the financial details ever confirmed to us regarding repayments and salary?

After 18 months with CTC is our pay packet starting from £40k plus bond repayments, or inclusive, or do I fact repayments not start until the below happens?

After the two years/1251 hours, do bond repayments kick in and we hit the base FO pay of £54k once again plus repayments, or inclusive?
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Old 31st May 2013, 00:18
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Congratulations...

Congratulations!

Well done to both of you, it's good to know what with all that investment there is a job at the end of it, well done.
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Old 31st May 2013, 06:32
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Well done guys...

Can I encourage you to continue posting on PPRuNe?

There is so much rubbish purveyed on this forum, it would be nice to hear from more people who have actually done/doing an airline mentored MPL course.
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Old 31st May 2013, 13:13
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After speaking with CTC and EZY, although very genuine and supportive, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty over the details which i'd like to be cleared up before committing myself and family so greatly (as im sure as are others).

What i do know is that for the first two years on Flexi, our daily rate (assuming 750 hours per annum) equates to around £30k per year. I assume we pay our loan out of this ourselves(given our 2 year repayment holiday has ended during training).

After this point i am in the dark. Do we go onto the quoted £54k starting FO salary + bond repayments, or is that inclusive of bond repayments?

Also, to whom does the quote £40k Cadet salary at EZY apply, as neither were sure what this figure related to?

If there are any previous MPL or CTC students out there, your experience would be very helpful.
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Old 31st May 2013, 14:53
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Andre, If you start in September then you would only need £5300 before the course when you sign the contract. Then another £5300 a month before we start the course. You do not need the rest of the money till February 2014 as it's from here you begin paying monthly installments of £5300 + the £18,200 for the New Zealand phase this means you would not need to get the loan through till around January 2014. With a 2 year holiday period that would mean we would not need to begin paying back the loan till January-February 2016, at which point we would have been flying for easyJet since March-April 2015 so effectively 10 months or so. The first 8 months from what I understand we are on £1200 a month, but considering we won't have repayments it's not too bad. After this I believe we then start getting paid by the hour to the tune of £45 + stand bys of £180 a day which would equate to a lot more than £30k a year. We are on this for 3 years from the moment we leave CTC, however we are able to switch on to a full time contract after 2 years, which is where we start getting our bond paid back (whether our salaries on the full time are £12k less, I don't know).

If I have made any mistakes feel (anyone) feel free to correct me, this is how I understand it. I'm on CP112 and have also been lucky enough to have landed a place on this scheme.
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Old 31st May 2013, 15:35
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Congratulations chaps.

I applied for this (although unsuccessful) but was told the only exact terms of the MPL were that you would be offered a 3 year deal on flexicrew after completing type rating and line training. You are only "eligible to apply" for a permanent contract at easyJet after 1250 flexicrew hours.

I guess worst case scenario would be completing 3 years on flexicrew and then not getting offered a permanent contract, by which time you would have done 1500 hours anyway so would have an ATPL.
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Old 1st Jun 2013, 15:07
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Talking

Congrats to those who have been accepted.

Luckily for me I'm starting on the July course! Can't believe it's all starting so soon.

Wish everyone all the best! Anyone else on the July start date get in contact!
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