British Airways Future Pilot Programme.
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Thanks CAT3C AUTOLAND, you won't read anything more reassuring and stimulating than that. Super! Winners don't quit.
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Thanks everybody again for your kind and honest suggestions!
I would like to point out that I am not bitter at all, just disappointed. Nonetheless, I feel ready to revise my application, improve my profile and make it more suitable for the role as soon as a new chance is available.
That said, I have actually felt, from the very beginning, extremely close to those that seem to me to be BA's values. On top of that, I am not desperately trying to be a pilot. I have a strong passion for flight but I am also 32, I have a job and, knowing myself and having a partner who works (and fights to survive) in Vueling, I am sure I would be very frustrated as a low-cost, low-salary, low-consideration pilot. I don't know if I made myself clear enough, it is just my point of view and my personal preference (and an answer to those who say that it is not a matter of being a pilot at all costs, I agree 100%). I would have really loved to be a BA pilot because it think they have that approach to aviation that only big prestigious companies still preserve. My mother worked as a flight attendant in Alitalia in the 70s and 80s, during the golden age of the airline, and at that time you could really and easily feel proud of your job, both in the cockpit and in the cabin. BA, as other major airlines, struggles to maintain this style and this concept and I appreciate that the utmost. It is an added value that attracted me to this programme, along with the more obvious motivations.
I suspect the sum of being 32, not being British and not having any previous flying experience definitely dug the grave of my application. And since on the former two I have no control (the first will actually go worse every year), maybe I should do my best to save some money and, at least, have a try at taking controls of a plane before re-applying.
Back to the nationality issue, I dare ask you a last question. I know it is a delicate matter and I would like not to be misunderstood. I am asking out of true interest and with good intention. How much do you think it hinders the application process the fact of not being British? Honestly I have seen nobody on this forum pass the first stage that was not from UK. Maybe I am simply wrong or it is due to pure statistics. However, let me make myself clear, even if it did exist a preference, I would totally agree with it. After all it is British Airways, I deem it reasonable and fair to give preference to those, other features being equal, who are English mother tongue and who are more integrated in British society. As a foreigner, I am curious to know your opinion about that.
Thank a lot and good luck to those that proved successful at this stage!
I would like to point out that I am not bitter at all, just disappointed. Nonetheless, I feel ready to revise my application, improve my profile and make it more suitable for the role as soon as a new chance is available.
That said, I have actually felt, from the very beginning, extremely close to those that seem to me to be BA's values. On top of that, I am not desperately trying to be a pilot. I have a strong passion for flight but I am also 32, I have a job and, knowing myself and having a partner who works (and fights to survive) in Vueling, I am sure I would be very frustrated as a low-cost, low-salary, low-consideration pilot. I don't know if I made myself clear enough, it is just my point of view and my personal preference (and an answer to those who say that it is not a matter of being a pilot at all costs, I agree 100%). I would have really loved to be a BA pilot because it think they have that approach to aviation that only big prestigious companies still preserve. My mother worked as a flight attendant in Alitalia in the 70s and 80s, during the golden age of the airline, and at that time you could really and easily feel proud of your job, both in the cockpit and in the cabin. BA, as other major airlines, struggles to maintain this style and this concept and I appreciate that the utmost. It is an added value that attracted me to this programme, along with the more obvious motivations.
I suspect the sum of being 32, not being British and not having any previous flying experience definitely dug the grave of my application. And since on the former two I have no control (the first will actually go worse every year), maybe I should do my best to save some money and, at least, have a try at taking controls of a plane before re-applying.
Back to the nationality issue, I dare ask you a last question. I know it is a delicate matter and I would like not to be misunderstood. I am asking out of true interest and with good intention. How much do you think it hinders the application process the fact of not being British? Honestly I have seen nobody on this forum pass the first stage that was not from UK. Maybe I am simply wrong or it is due to pure statistics. However, let me make myself clear, even if it did exist a preference, I would totally agree with it. After all it is British Airways, I deem it reasonable and fair to give preference to those, other features being equal, who are English mother tongue and who are more integrated in British society. As a foreigner, I am curious to know your opinion about that.
Thank a lot and good luck to those that proved successful at this stage!
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It seems that a lot of applicants are still waiting for a response from CTC and OAA.
I myself have applied to CTC on March 1st (Almost 2 weeks now) and have still not heard anything back yet.
As someone pointed out earlier on in this thread, one way of looking at it is that no news is good news, however with reading how people have been accepted to the next stage from FTE is making me worried.
Fingers crossed!
I myself have applied to CTC on March 1st (Almost 2 weeks now) and have still not heard anything back yet.
As someone pointed out earlier on in this thread, one way of looking at it is that no news is good news, however with reading how people have been accepted to the next stage from FTE is making me worried.
Fingers crossed!
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baloney nutshell - I'm actually still waiting for FTE which I'm starting to find worrying, it seems like the majority of FTE people have heard back. Is anyone else still in the same boat as me with FTE?
So you were only given two dates to choose from?
So you were only given two dates to choose from?
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I've mentioned previously that CTC have told me that they are running selection days all the way into April. I was also told that it could be the end of March before we find out whether we've been invited to one of said selection days.
My application still hasn't been screened by BA yet. It seems to be fairly straight forward once you get the initial nod from them though.
No news is definitely good news.
My application still hasn't been screened by BA yet. It seems to be fairly straight forward once you get the initial nod from them though.
No news is definitely good news.
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baloney nutshell - I'm actually still waiting for FTE which I'm starting to find worrying, it seems like the majority of FTE people have heard back. Is anyone else still in the same boat as me with FTE?
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I'm also a little older than the average applicant and not originally from the UK. Like you, I also have a good job paying extremely well. These might work against us, we'll never know. Perhaps the nationality and the age doesn't matter at all but since we don't know how many foreign cadets they had on previous FPP and how many they are going to have this year we can't make assumptions. Maybe they feel that people who are already established in a good career would struggle when they realise that they are losing the comfortable lifestyle they worked so hard for. I don't know. It is certainly a big deal. If I embarked on this programme then I wouldn't be able to provide the same standard of living until at least I've reached 50! That is scary. I'm happy that the selection team has made that decision for me so early on. Nevertheless, I'm still keeping an eye on things here and want to see how people are doing throughout the selection process and beyond. I really hope that these guys and girls will keep us all up to date with the latest! Once again, good luck to everyone and do let us know how you are getting on!
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There are people aged from 18 to 40+ on the FPP. Some are just out of school with little in the way of work experience, while others had careers as doctors, engineers, IT managers etc before joining. And not everyone on the FPP is British. So it's clear that a wide variety of people have made it, and those who don't make it should not look to their age, past career, or nationality as the reason (as long as they meet the entry criteria outlined on the BA FPP website).
Good luck to those still in the running!
Good luck to those still in the running!
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Thanks George for the heads up!
This is certainly reassuring to hear.
I was also told that it could be the end of March before we find out whether we've been invited to one of said selection days.
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Re-booking assessment day
Hi Folks,
I've been invited to assessment centre at OAA but may now not be able to make the date. Has anyone been able re-book their date? I've tried to call the school and also emailed them but their has been no answer.
I've been invited to assessment centre at OAA but may now not be able to make the date. Has anyone been able re-book their date? I've tried to call the school and also emailed them but their has been no answer.
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I have already been in discussion with FTE about this issue @bgbetts1
If you have passed the FTE exams, BA still want you to complete the group assessment, maths exam and 1-1 interview.
(Once 6 months haven't passed since sitting them)
Hope that helps.
If you have passed the FTE exams, BA still want you to complete the group assessment, maths exam and 1-1 interview.
(Once 6 months haven't passed since sitting them)
Hope that helps.
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FTE Assessments
Hi Guys,
I've been invited to a FTE assessment day, was wondering what your opinions are on the PILAPT subscriptions. Looked at Skytest, latestpilotjobs and pilotaptitudetest.com and was wondering which of these would be worth taking out a subscription for? Obviously with the cost of the assessment day I would prefer the cheaper one but if another would be more beneficial I'd rather use that. Running out of time and need to make a decision!
Thanks
I've been invited to a FTE assessment day, was wondering what your opinions are on the PILAPT subscriptions. Looked at Skytest, latestpilotjobs and pilotaptitudetest.com and was wondering which of these would be worth taking out a subscription for? Obviously with the cost of the assessment day I would prefer the cheaper one but if another would be more beneficial I'd rather use that. Running out of time and need to make a decision!
Thanks
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Good morning all,
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed but with over 130 pages I have skimmed through the thread fairly quickly.
I'm just trying to find out a little more detail about stage 1 of the selection with Oxford. I don't want specific questions/answers just a good rough guide.
After looking at the email invite there are a few bits i'm unsure of:
1. Technical Test - What exactly is this? and how do I prep?
2. Understanding of Maths/Physics? I have not long ago passed a day 1 at CTC and the maths was easy, all basic GCSE stuff but I don't know if Oxford/BA will be different. Do you know if this will be the same? Also what sort of Physics questions will they be asking?
3. A multiple-choice test of technical reasoning. Any ideas at all?
4. A dynamic multi-task test. Again, any ideas on this one? Other than guess work?
If anyone can shed any light on this (happy to receive PMs) or simply point me in the right direction i'd be hugely grateful, at the same time i'll continue searching.
Thank you!
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed but with over 130 pages I have skimmed through the thread fairly quickly.
I'm just trying to find out a little more detail about stage 1 of the selection with Oxford. I don't want specific questions/answers just a good rough guide.
After looking at the email invite there are a few bits i'm unsure of:
1. Technical Test - What exactly is this? and how do I prep?
2. Understanding of Maths/Physics? I have not long ago passed a day 1 at CTC and the maths was easy, all basic GCSE stuff but I don't know if Oxford/BA will be different. Do you know if this will be the same? Also what sort of Physics questions will they be asking?
3. A multiple-choice test of technical reasoning. Any ideas at all?
4. A dynamic multi-task test. Again, any ideas on this one? Other than guess work?
If anyone can shed any light on this (happy to receive PMs) or simply point me in the right direction i'd be hugely grateful, at the same time i'll continue searching.
Thank you!
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Don't be offended if the information you receive is basic. From what I've read it would seem that BA have (justifiably) instructed candidates to refrain from sharing specific details of the selection process. General pilapt test information on the other hand may be readily available and heading your way!
Thorough research deep into the bowels of this forum will yield some snippets of information from which you can prepare from.
I haven't attended a selection day by the way. Just giving the heads up. (We're all in the same boat).
Thorough research deep into the bowels of this forum will yield some snippets of information from which you can prepare from.
I haven't attended a selection day by the way. Just giving the heads up. (We're all in the same boat).
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