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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:07
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The phase II you refer to didn't exist last time with FTE. Those who were successful with the initial application were invited to an assessment day.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 22:34
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It sounds very much like they have grouped the Multiple Choice Branching questions and essay papers into a times exercise this year. Previously it was part of the initial application and so you had a lot more time to complete it.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 10:34
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I must admit it seems very odd, just like an extra hurdle compared to the other FTOs... Cheers for the info, I applied OAA last year and think I'll be making a shift to FTE this time around so it will all be new to me!
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 11:35
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You may find that all FTO's are doing it this way...just that FTE are the first to announce it.
The initial web based application is the same for all applicants irrespective of FTO as far as I can recall.
Maybe BA have decided to split the initial process so that people have to answer the multiple choice and essay questions under 'timed conditions' this year. Though again, that would seem to be at odds with the advice in previous years to "Take your time over the answers to the essay questions"

There was an extra step introduced into last years process so it'll be interesting to see how/if it differs this year...
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 11:59
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...just that FTE are the first to announce it.
Out of interest, where was this announced? The FTE website doesn't appear to be any different to last year as far as the BA FPP is concerned (at least as far as I can remember), and what it does say about the selection process is not what actually happened. The initial application included written responses and a set of multi-choice questions, none of which were timed. After that FTE invited candidates to one assessment day (and only one assessment day) where the tests, group exercises and interviews were carried out. Those who were successful were then invited to Waterside.

I would be very surprised if the essay questions had to be answered under timed conditions on the next intake, for a variety of reasons:

i) As you point out, BA encourage applicants to take their time writing their answers.
ii) The application system was painfully slow last time around for about the first week, and unless it becomes much more reliable it wouldn't seem feasible to have it timing people while they were writing.
iii) It would be difficult to stop people from establishing what the questions were before applying, and then simply typing in (or pasting) pre-prepared answers when they commence the timed application.

Can't see it...
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 12:06
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Completely agree with all your reasons about why they wouldn't time the essay questions/multiple choice.
Although, technically, if they were screening the application first then they could provide some sort of unique identifier so that you had to log in before you could see/answer the questions. Gets a bit messy though.

I had a look on the following page ;

British Airways Future Pilot Programme | FTEJerez

and I think this is the section that seems to say what the OP is referring to ;

Once your application has been assessed and accepted, you will progress to Phase II of the selection process. Phase II consists of a series of questions that you will be required to answer within a given time. If successful you will progress to Phase III which is an assessment day at a venue (soon to be confirmed) in London, UK, which includes the following tests:
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 12:16
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Where did you find out BA were planning to change the format of the initial application? It seems to go against their original intention of allowing applicants to take their time with their answers.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 12:18
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Oh I see. That's not a new announcement; the website said that last year too but it didn't happen like that in reality. I think FTE need to update their website.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 12:21
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EZY FR - I didn't find that out. I don't know that BA have changed the process.
I personally can't see why they would. I was just trying to come up with a possible explanation as to why the FTE website says what it does.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 12:27
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Ahh I see, sorry about that. Apologies for the confusion.
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 13:27
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No worries...

Probably my fault for Hypothesizing....

Please ignore all after "Hello"
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Old 29th Aug 2014, 13:40
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Anyone on this thread going to the Flyer event in November? Would be great to meet some fellow FPP hopefuls.
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 17:46
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There were a number of FPP cadets at the last one too!
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 21:27
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Can you share the details/link of the Flyer event in November please?

Thanks
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Old 1st Sep 2014, 21:57
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Seager Exhibitions
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Old 15th Sep 2014, 08:44
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Once your application has been assessed and accepted, you will progress to Phase II of the selection process. Phase II consists of a series of questions that you will be required to answer within a given time. If successful you will progress to Phase III which is an assessment day at a venue (soon to be confirmed) in London, UK, which includes the following tests:
By this they do not mean an hour or two. They normally give you a few days to respond. So do take your time, but get it done.
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Old 15th Sep 2014, 09:10
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owenc

If the past two years are anything to go by, I can only imagine it will open up in November.
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 10:54
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Finance

Hello All!


Just a quick question for those of you who have been successful in the past in getting onto the FPP: have any of you taken up the BA guaranteed loan option? I am going to apply this year and was interested in the financing options available.


My credit rating is far from rosy and I am unsure as to what criteria BA's nominated bank would be looking at (whether they want a 'good' credit rating or purely no CCJs etc.)?


Any info would be much appreciated!


Thanks
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 11:49
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polar25,

The way it worked for us, you had to provide a copy of your full Experian credit report to BBVA. Incidentally, it had to be from Experian, rather than any other credit report agency.

When I got mine, it initially had a lot of stuff missing, giving me a 'Fair' rating, which I got the impression would not have been acceptable to BBVA (they stated that really it should be in the green ranges, 'Good' or 'Excellent'). After speaking to Experian, all my details were properly updated and it thankfully increased to a far higher score.

I'm not sure what anyone else's experience was, but they seemed to expect a good to excellent rating at the time we were applying. I'd expect that that position is unlikely to have changed, but who knows. You do at least get to speak with an individual at BBVA about it, not just having it fired through a computer, so maybe there's room for discussing extenuating circumstances? Who knows.
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Old 16th Sep 2014, 12:30
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You also have a long period of time to work on your credit rating between now and when you will have to submit an application to BBVA. There is a massive amount to get through between now and then as well. I would suggest you sign up to Experian and get your credit score/rating. You will learn a lot just from this. Then use the tools that Experian membership gives you to improve your rating over the next 9 months or so.
At the moment you dont know what you dont know... So if Credit Rating is worrying you find out what it is... you might be surprised.
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