British Airways Future Pilot Programme.
sure you could commute with BA, but that would impact on the quality of life
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When I looked into starting salaries (about a year ago), the highest paying of the bunch were Thompson, at around £35k. £35k FYI after tax is less than £2200 take home.
I would be _very_ surprised if the BA FPP salary was anywhere near £4kpm as quoted by the person on the previous page. This sounds like fantasy to me, even if it were before tax, you're talking £48k starting salary. But eager to be proven wrong!
I would be _very_ surprised if the BA FPP salary was anywhere near £4kpm as quoted by the person on the previous page. This sounds like fantasy to me, even if it were before tax, you're talking £48k starting salary. But eager to be proven wrong!
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The starting salary for BA cadets is approx 22k + flying allowances equating to approximately 8-10k per year. BA also pay an additional 12k per year tax free for a 7 year periods to repay the bond back to the cadets.
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Might I recommend reading through this - likely to remain much the same for future years but not, of course, guaranteed:
Future Pilot Programme - Future Pilot ? Other Information and FAQs
Most specifically:
The year 1 basic salary for a Future Pilot Programme first officer is £23,220, with a further £8-£10,000 of flying allowances typically being earned in a full year of flying (please note that these allowances are not guaranteed and are subject to levels and type of flying completed). Remember that as well as pay and allowances, British Airways will pay you back your security bond, tax–free, at the rate of £12,000 per year for the first seven years of your employment as a pilot.
It is worth bearing in mind that for some applicants this represents a substantial pay cut. This does not make them any less keen; competitive process this!
Edit: What my fellow Mancunian said!
Future Pilot Programme - Future Pilot ? Other Information and FAQs
Most specifically:
The year 1 basic salary for a Future Pilot Programme first officer is £23,220, with a further £8-£10,000 of flying allowances typically being earned in a full year of flying (please note that these allowances are not guaranteed and are subject to levels and type of flying completed). Remember that as well as pay and allowances, British Airways will pay you back your security bond, tax–free, at the rate of £12,000 per year for the first seven years of your employment as a pilot.
It is worth bearing in mind that for some applicants this represents a substantial pay cut. This does not make them any less keen; competitive process this!
Edit: What my fellow Mancunian said!
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commiserations and good luck with your future application(s). I've been following your posts and I quite like them to be honest. Deep inside, I think you're of substance. Hard luck!
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Congrats G-FORC, I can see from your attitude on here that you deserved a place.
Thanks kirungi1.
Interestingly the reject letter invited you to reapply and didn't caveat it with the 3 year limitation. I'm not near that yet, but maybe if you get through the final round they give you an extra year?
Is it Champagne that gets better with age? Mine might have gone off by the time I get a job as a pilot!
Thanks kirungi1.
Interestingly the reject letter invited you to reapply and didn't caveat it with the 3 year limitation. I'm not near that yet, but maybe if you get through the final round they give you an extra year?
Is it Champagne that gets better with age? Mine might have gone off by the time I get a job as a pilot!
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Hi everybody. Congratulations to those who made the cut, and commiserations to those who didn't - although a hugely respected job of making it so far against fierce competition. 2015 will surely be yours!
I'd like to ask, to anyone who knows, what exactly was the incident (if any) of CTC Wings not having enough assessment day places for those selected for assessment by BA? I'll be seeing CTC Wings as well as OAA and FTE Jerez tomorrow at the PFTE at LHR T5, and as a future BA FPP applicant it will be good to ask them some challenging questions and see what kind of answers they can give.
Likewise, if anyone else has any questions they'd like me to ask the FTOs or BA on their behalf, let me know and I'll give it my best shot.
Once again, congratulations to those who've made it all the way through the BA FPP. This is the start of a dream, enjoy the journey.
I'd like to ask, to anyone who knows, what exactly was the incident (if any) of CTC Wings not having enough assessment day places for those selected for assessment by BA? I'll be seeing CTC Wings as well as OAA and FTE Jerez tomorrow at the PFTE at LHR T5, and as a future BA FPP applicant it will be good to ask them some challenging questions and see what kind of answers they can give.
Likewise, if anyone else has any questions they'd like me to ask the FTOs or BA on their behalf, let me know and I'll give it my best shot.
Once again, congratulations to those who've made it all the way through the BA FPP. This is the start of a dream, enjoy the journey.
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I've been lurking on this forum for years now...and only ever posted in other threads but today I'm going to break my habit - albeit under a brand new username in honour of finally getting accepted onto a Cadet Pilot Programme.
To my fellow BA Cadets - congratulations, and Ill see some of you during training and the rest when we fly the line together.
To those who have received unwelcome news today... I've been there many times and I share your pain... and there are many pilots worldwide who have been there too. Rejection and set back is all part of the game... but if you want this bad enough...and are prepared to work..and I mean really work for it - you can do it. Learn from each experience - there really is no substitute for being in the game. This was last chance saloon for me - being my 3rd attempt - but I've learned from each previous failure. I'd be willing to bet I'm probably going to be one of the oldest on the course... and the scary thing is that now the hard part really starts, I'm going to be a student for the first time in my life...and I'm going to be poor for a good while. But right now I couldn't be happier
A very very proud
Speedbird Cadet to be
To my fellow BA Cadets - congratulations, and Ill see some of you during training and the rest when we fly the line together.
To those who have received unwelcome news today... I've been there many times and I share your pain... and there are many pilots worldwide who have been there too. Rejection and set back is all part of the game... but if you want this bad enough...and are prepared to work..and I mean really work for it - you can do it. Learn from each experience - there really is no substitute for being in the game. This was last chance saloon for me - being my 3rd attempt - but I've learned from each previous failure. I'd be willing to bet I'm probably going to be one of the oldest on the course... and the scary thing is that now the hard part really starts, I'm going to be a student for the first time in my life...and I'm going to be poor for a good while. But right now I couldn't be happier
A very very proud
Speedbird Cadet to be
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Hi. I just thought I'd say that I have been watching this thread like a hawk, ever since I first set my sights on BA over three years ago. However, I've never taken the time to chip in, so here's my $0.02
For me, it was a yes second time round and quite frankly - I'm completely over the moon.
All I wanted to say is - congrats to those who made it, and commiserations to those who didn't.
From my experience, if you want something bad enough, you do whatever's necessary to make it happen.
I encourage anyone who was turned away at any phase in the application process to persevere and have another crack at it... You NEVER BLOODY KNOW!!!
For me, it was a yes second time round and quite frankly - I'm completely over the moon.
All I wanted to say is - congrats to those who made it, and commiserations to those who didn't.
From my experience, if you want something bad enough, you do whatever's necessary to make it happen.
I encourage anyone who was turned away at any phase in the application process to persevere and have another crack at it... You NEVER BLOODY KNOW!!!
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To G-F0RC3 - Massive congratulations, felt sure you would make it! Then again, I thought the same of LPtP and, ahem, myself 
. Still hope to be flying with you in the future (and not as SLF).
To LPtP - So so sorry to hear your news. I do hope you'll give it another crack next year. For what it's worth, I was certainly rooting for you.
To LPtP, and anyone else I suppose - regards the MPL, it is a tough decision. In my case, one of the items on which I was knocked back was being a little unclear on why I wanted to work for BA specifically as opposed to why I wanted to be a pilot.
As a result, I have now dedicated a little time each day to reading about various facets of the BA/IAG operation so that I will know it absolutely inside out by next year's intake. What I have read already has certainly clarified things in my mind, and I will be concentrating on BA and next year's FPP for the next nine months rather than pursuing other avenues. It will of course be rather embarrassing should I not pass the paper sift next time...
To all my fellow rejects: Why do we fall?
. Still hope to be flying with you in the future (and not as SLF).To LPtP - So so sorry to hear your news. I do hope you'll give it another crack next year. For what it's worth, I was certainly rooting for you.
To LPtP, and anyone else I suppose - regards the MPL, it is a tough decision. In my case, one of the items on which I was knocked back was being a little unclear on why I wanted to work for BA specifically as opposed to why I wanted to be a pilot.
As a result, I have now dedicated a little time each day to reading about various facets of the BA/IAG operation so that I will know it absolutely inside out by next year's intake. What I have read already has certainly clarified things in my mind, and I will be concentrating on BA and next year's FPP for the next nine months rather than pursuing other avenues. It will of course be rather embarrassing should I not pass the paper sift next time...
To all my fellow rejects: Why do we fall?
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Well done G-F0RC3, I also got the good news today. shocked and ecstatic in equal measure.
For those who unfortunately didnt get through:
This time last year I was in exactly the same position as you. I had got to Waterside, thought I put in a good performance but got the disappointing news that i wasn't successful. Firstly just reflect how well you did to get the final stage.
Secondly and this is what I did this time last year....Note down the entire application process from start to finish. What you were questioned on your interviews, what type of compass and aptitude tests you did (things that you remember from the tests and how you can maximize your score)
Think about the maths tests and write examples of the questions. Spend the next 6 months finding some great competency based answers and practice.
I found that I was much more prepared this time around and thankfully it worked for me.
Remember that the experience of going to Waterside will put you in a better position for next year.
Good luck all and don't give up.
For those who unfortunately didnt get through:
This time last year I was in exactly the same position as you. I had got to Waterside, thought I put in a good performance but got the disappointing news that i wasn't successful. Firstly just reflect how well you did to get the final stage.
Secondly and this is what I did this time last year....Note down the entire application process from start to finish. What you were questioned on your interviews, what type of compass and aptitude tests you did (things that you remember from the tests and how you can maximize your score)
Think about the maths tests and write examples of the questions. Spend the next 6 months finding some great competency based answers and practice.
I found that I was much more prepared this time around and thankfully it worked for me.
Remember that the experience of going to Waterside will put you in a better position for next year.
Good luck all and don't give up.