British Airways Future Pilot Programme.
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Plan B
Thanks! I guess I was nervous about not having last minute surprises.
I´m applying but seems like it´s not going to be easy though.
I consider that I should have plan B. but not many other CADET programs taking place soon ahead, does anybody knows about future cadet programs..Easyjet, Monarch, anything for europeans?
Or should I go on my own to South Africa without the cadet UMBRELLA?, good value, heard many positive comments on some schools there like Progress Flight Academy..
I´m applying but seems like it´s not going to be easy though.
I consider that I should have plan B. but not many other CADET programs taking place soon ahead, does anybody knows about future cadet programs..Easyjet, Monarch, anything for europeans?
Or should I go on my own to South Africa without the cadet UMBRELLA?, good value, heard many positive comments on some schools there like Progress Flight Academy..
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Bellamafia,
Mixed fleet and FPP are two very different things. FPP graduates will be on the same contract as all other BA pilots. Same paypoint system but yes longer to reach the top. Same bidline same DC pension as recent joiners. If BA hadn't closed the DB scheme to new entrants then I doubt BA would be the success that it is. No BA pilot wants new entrants to be on inferior Ts and Cs but we have to negotiate with the company and not fight battles that we won't win. A look at SEPLAs predicament says it all.
The pay differentials between a pilot and a cc member on an EF or WW contract have reduced we took a paycut they didnt but the cost is that there is no promotion and all recruitment is to mixed fleet .
I applaud BAs FPP it allows anyone the opportunity to join BA but BA have to sign contracts with the FTOs and feel responsible to give jobs to the graduates from the courses. If the need for recruitment slows as the bmi merger shows, the easiest tap to turn off is the DEP selection process but if the tap suddenly needs turning on again those swimming in the pool will be in a BA uniform pretty quickly.
Mixed fleet and FPP are two very different things. FPP graduates will be on the same contract as all other BA pilots. Same paypoint system but yes longer to reach the top. Same bidline same DC pension as recent joiners. If BA hadn't closed the DB scheme to new entrants then I doubt BA would be the success that it is. No BA pilot wants new entrants to be on inferior Ts and Cs but we have to negotiate with the company and not fight battles that we won't win. A look at SEPLAs predicament says it all.
The pay differentials between a pilot and a cc member on an EF or WW contract have reduced we took a paycut they didnt but the cost is that there is no promotion and all recruitment is to mixed fleet .
I applaud BAs FPP it allows anyone the opportunity to join BA but BA have to sign contracts with the FTOs and feel responsible to give jobs to the graduates from the courses. If the need for recruitment slows as the bmi merger shows, the easiest tap to turn off is the DEP selection process but if the tap suddenly needs turning on again those swimming in the pool will be in a BA uniform pretty quickly.
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Whenever a new batch of FPP cadets start, their group picture is published in our Flight Ops weekly roundup. There were definitely more 'mature' candidates as well as younger men and women. BA is obsessed about being fair and open to anyone who applies. If you make the grade, answer the questions in the way BA wants you to, and meet the minimum criteria, you are in with the same chance as anyone.
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Nae gingers to be seen.
They are all clones I tell you!
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This is a great programme no doubt, if you are lucky enough to be ''future captain'' material like BA see it as. However that percentage is very small, at least with Ryanair your on a level playing field as long as you have passed everything first time, and if you do modular+ type rating it is still a lot cheaper than this programme (and quicker on the line). Also yes with BA you will have a UK base but in London, therefore extortionate rent/accommodation costs if you have to relocate. Just something to think about...
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I would disagree. Assuming one doesn't have the £84k for the FPP, they would be taking a loan and probably paying back around £120k. BA return the £84k over your employment, so you would end up footing the bill for the interest at around £40k. A Ryanair type-rating is E30k. Add that to a modular CPL/IR and you would have to do very well to beat the FPP cost - and this is in its most expensive case where one requires a loan for the full cost of the course. Remove the need of a loan for the full amount and it becomes even more cost effective. Your option also assumes that one would get a job with Ryanair having already committed to the license cost. It isn't that easy when there are thousands queuing up for the dubious pleasure of flying for Ryanair.
Then you consider the long-term career prospects at Ryanair vs BA, the security of having an actual employment contract + benefits, the fact you have an employer who isn't actively trying to screw you over every 5 minutes and it becomes a no contest.
Then you consider the long-term career prospects at Ryanair vs BA, the security of having an actual employment contract + benefits, the fact you have an employer who isn't actively trying to screw you over every 5 minutes and it becomes a no contest.
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I a firmly believe that whoever is right for job should get the job. It shouldn't matter what colour you are, what sex you are or whether your gay or straight. However I have to say that judging by the lack of females on the OAA course and lack of ethnicity, I find this somewhat concerning and hope its purely by chance.
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at least with Ryanair
However I have to say that judging by the lack of females on the OAA course and lack of ethnicity, I find this somewhat concerning and hope its purely by chance.
The wider issue then was the somewhat disproportionate number of BA pilots' kids getting through, but who can blame them!
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shocked
BA employ based upon the best person for the job after the application of a stringent testing process that has no bearing on race, gender, colour, ethnic background or nationality.
If you pass, you're in.
I don't see why it is 'shocking' in any way, the process is open and fair to all.
Bl**dy Daily Mail readers.
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