British Airways Future Pilot Programme.

[Chief Willy]

Having strong academics will certainly not hinder though, generally speaking the standard was high enough last year for BA to be very selective. Academics will have been part of this, but as the above posters say, perhaps not the most crucial aspect of their selection criteria. I would have thought that evidence of leadership and teamwork qualities are equally if not more important. Last year's batch was made up of a significant number of career changers, including the RAF guys, who perhaps had ample examples of the skills that BA look for.

Best of luck to all applicants.

[Stocious]

There were a number of successful guys last year who had bare minimum academic grades. From what I recall, they were verified on the assessment days then never mentioned again!

I've heard this year that they don't plan on taking on anywhere near the same amount as last year though, so it makes it all the more competitive.

Good luck!

[Libertine Winno]

@17PA

Good job in getting that far!

But yeah BA can be highly selective, I think most young aspiring pilots want to fly for BA so they can pick and choose who they want.

I suppose the saving grace for everyone else is that this year there won't be a whole load of newly-redundant ex-RAF trainees!

[captain_spud]

Got the email off BA's recruitment website this morning, looks like a closing date of the 13th December

[Libertine Winno]

Would make sense about less numbers, given the buyout of bmi. Most of those guys were A320 rated I seem to recall, so in theory at least BA would require less short haul pilots in the short term (which the cadets would become).

Will be interesting to see how the programme continues in the future. When it was launched last year it was designed to recruit around 400 cadets over the next 4 years...

[Stocious]

From the BA FPP website...

"We will be opening the website for applications on Monday 19th November 2012. We will close the website for applications on Thursday 13th December 2012, unless we receive an overwhelming number of applications in which case we reserve the right to close the application window early. If we have to do this, however, we will make it clear on this page that we are closing the application window early and will email everyone who has started an application to give them 48 hours’ notice of the window closing"

[EZY_FR]

The educational requirements seems to have changed:

"You will need:

5 GCSEs at Grade C or above, including English Language, Mathematics and a Science (single or double award), excluding General Studies.
PLUS

either 3 A-Levels at Grades BBC or above, excluding General Studies.
or an Honours Degree at 2:2 (or higher) or a pass (or above) in a higher degree such as MSc, MA, MPhil, DPhil, PhD, MBA."

This should be good news for many applicants.

[bellamafia]

I too have just read the requirements and wanted to double check i wasn't seeing things!

The degree specifications have been lowered from a 2:1 to a 2:2.

Did anyone apply last year, got through to the assessment stages but sadly didn't get beyond this stage? (like myself).

Will you be reapplying again? id like to hear particularly from any females too but please, do reply if you are a male.

Thanks

[16mklong]

Hi there,

I applied Last year and went down to the last 300 At heathrow only to be cut at that point. I dont understand why they have lowered the entry requirements.

Are you going to re-apply?

[Libertine Winno]

@16mklong

As discussed above, I don't think they place too much on the academic requirements but far more on your personal skills, experience and the aptitude tests. They are looking for future captains after all, not Astrophysicists or Neurosurgeons, so why cut off lots of potential candidates who don't have a qualification that they aren't actually that bothered about?!

[Ianp83]

British Airways Future Pilot Programme 2013

Is there any particular advantage to 1 of the fto's vs the others save personal preference of the locations. For instance if they all get allocated 1/3 of the spaces might one be a less popular option?

Also does anyone currently on this program know if there are facilities for married couples to live together or do you need to be on campus?

[BerksFlyer]

Most jobs aren't looking for geniuses, but most jobs of comparable responsibility (ie. graduate jobs) ask for a 2:1 plus 300+ UCAS points as a minimum. I think BA are selling themselves short in lowering the requirements. They would have no shortage of quality applicants asking for the same as most graduate jobs.

[EZY_FR]

For anyone who is considering reapplying this year:


Will re-applicants be welcomed to the next FPP opening?

Absolutely. This is a very competitive scheme and we'd welcome applications from anyone who applied last year.
This was asked by someone using the live twitter, in case there is anyone not in the know.

[Roger-Wilco]

I think there is a lot of truth in the comments referring to the academic requirements. My interpretation is that the emphasis is only to aid as an initial filter on applications.

If they placed a lot of emphasis on having straight A's or even a degree and they held a lot of weight at the advanced stages of selection; one would think they would specify subjects too. A 1st in Media Studies is not comparable to a 1st in a core dicpline such as Mathematics, Physics or Engineering (that's another debate not approriate here!).

Either way, due to the nature of this scheme, most, if not all, will have a strong academic ability. The selections days certainly put you in your place; think little fish, big pond.

I hope talkpedlar joins this thread in the future, he certainly provided a lot of balanced, useful tips and opinions last year.

[turbine100]

What happened to those in the BA hold pool currently waiting outside of this scheme?

Also, shame they are not doing any schemes who already have the license and lack the experience

[Libertine Winno]

BA do a separate graduate scheme for roles such as engineering, procurement, finance etc and the requirements for those are very much in line with other graduate schemes (2:1 in a relevant degree, 280+ UCAS points etc)

I agree that if they placed more weight on the academic stuff then they would specify degree or A level subjects, but seeing as they don't it can only be assumed that they use these as a general indication of academic ability rather than an essential requirement

[jez d]

Anyone with spare time available this Saturday (3 Nov) might like to visit the Professional Flight Training Show at the Sofitel, Heathrow T5. There will be a presentation by BA on the Future Pilot Programme: 2012 LONDON PROFESSIONAL FLIGHT TRAINING EXHIBITION

[Stocious]

Most jobs aren't looking for geniuses, but most jobs of comparable responsibility (ie. graduate jobs) ask for a 2:1 plus 300+ UCAS points as a minimum. I think BA are selling themselves short in lowering the requirements. They would have no shortage of quality applicants asking for the same as most graduate jobs.

This isn't a graduate job though.

Granted most successful applicants did have a degree of some sort, but there are a good number of others who only had bare minimum A-levels or equivalent. Much more emphasis is placed on evidencing non-technical skills that could have been acquired through a number of avenues, not necessarily University related.

[Air Brake]

Also, shame they are not doing any schemes who already have the license and lack the experience

Not at all, people who have a CPL IR and no job were naive for parting with 100K without understanding the market.

This gives those who never normally have the chance of become a Pilot a chance to do it, with a loan tied to their income. It hopefully will stop airlines being a bit of a middle class Lads club for those that can afford it.

The only people who lose out on this are those who have no flying ability but have the cash to keep throwing at the examiner until they get lucky and pass their CPL, IR.

This is a great way to get some new talent into BA!

Good luck to all!

[Callsign Kilo]

What happened to those in the BA hold pool currently waiting outside of this scheme?

They were told that there was no plan to recruit them in 2013 and that positions would be prioritised to the FPP cadets. It is extremely unlikely that any positions will be generated for the remaining DEPs assessed by BA.