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Thats a shame PlaneVanilla. At least you can say that you made the standard required, but unfortunately didn't quite make it on the ranking. Hopefully they give some feedback.
I got an email saying I'm still in the process..
I got an email saying I'm still in the process..
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Well, having reflected on my performance I am somewhat frustrated now, but at the same time energised for next year as with a little work success should be within my reach. No problems with COMPASS or the personality profile, but I feel that I let myself down on the team exercise and the interview. Tried a cheeky "Do you have any single-pilot aircraft available?" at the end of the day, but no dice! 
I have taken away a lot from the process, and am still digesting the learning points, but won't bore you with it all here. The best of luck to those still in the process - hope to be flying with you in the future yet!
I have taken away a lot from the process, and am still digesting the learning points, but won't bore you with it all here. The best of luck to those still in the process - hope to be flying with you in the future yet!
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Feedback is a good addition to the FPP selection process. JDA2012, if you feel up to it, would you be kind enough to let us know what it was in particular that (based on your feedback) you felt they were looking for (that you perhaps didn't do enough of) in the group ex?
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That's why I'm not being very specific - I assume that anyone who wishes to knows who I am on here, OAA in particular, and I am mindful that they would prefer that the process remain a surprise.
I'm a PPL already so I expected to do well on the technical elements, however then to let myself down on the "soft" elements is so frustrating, but a very important lesson. It doesn't matter how good a pilot you are if you don't play nicely with others!
Advice I feel I can give without over-stepping the mark, and which is generic to all (knowing my specific growth areas won't really help anyone else):
Learn BA absolutely inside out, make sure that you can substantiate anything that you bring up at interview, and when they ask you to work as a team, they mean it!
That is all rather obvious, I know - yet I seem to have missed the finer points.
I'm a PPL already so I expected to do well on the technical elements, however then to let myself down on the "soft" elements is so frustrating, but a very important lesson. It doesn't matter how good a pilot you are if you don't play nicely with others!
Advice I feel I can give without over-stepping the mark, and which is generic to all (knowing my specific growth areas won't really help anyone else):
Learn BA absolutely inside out, make sure that you can substantiate anything that you bring up at interview, and when they ask you to work as a team, they mean it!
That is all rather obvious, I know - yet I seem to have missed the finer points.
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Sorry to hear you came to grief, better luck next time round.
Spot on...
I think that was one of the major points Fulltanks was driving at in his/her excellent post a week or two back. It's not just a case of having the motor and academic skills, you have to be able to show that you are the sort of person who can share office space with others for hours on end. I don't envy you folks going through the process - you probably feel you need to demonstrate some sort of alpha male or female characteristics to stand out from the pack but you need to be aware that those characteristics might just appear to make you an utter PITA......
If it helps FWIW I think most BA captains, even if they allegedly lack personal skills, have grey hair and are as old as Methuselah
enjoy a good day out. My ideal colleague is better handler than me, ( not difficult) but doesn't step all over me when I'm briefing, ( i.e. cuts me some slack) and corrects me when I go all senior (" err, that 's a really good idea, and I might be wrong but)....and best of all they are someone who I'd want to share a beer /fruit juice with me at the end of the day....now I'm not sure how you teach those skills but there you go......
It doesn't matter how good a pilot you are if you don't play nicely with others!
I think that was one of the major points Fulltanks was driving at in his/her excellent post a week or two back. It's not just a case of having the motor and academic skills, you have to be able to show that you are the sort of person who can share office space with others for hours on end. I don't envy you folks going through the process - you probably feel you need to demonstrate some sort of alpha male or female characteristics to stand out from the pack but you need to be aware that those characteristics might just appear to make you an utter PITA......
If it helps FWIW I think most BA captains, even if they allegedly lack personal skills, have grey hair and are as old as Methuselah
enjoy a good day out. My ideal colleague is better handler than me, ( not difficult) but doesn't step all over me when I'm briefing, ( i.e. cuts me some slack) and corrects me when I go all senior (" err, that 's a really good idea, and I might be wrong but)....and best of all they are someone who I'd want to share a beer /fruit juice with me at the end of the day....now I'm not sure how you teach those skills but there you go......
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bangaio - yes, as were we, and I can now see why. They are very busy people at the best of times and whilst well meaning they simply don't have the bandwidth it would take to provide comprehensive feedback. I think it would be unfair to subject them to a deluge of requests for the same...
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Thanks for the comment, Wiggy. A year or so ago I was having similar conversations on this thread with TalkPedlar. I thought my post of 12th January had stunned everyone into an embarrassed silence - although after a five day break I'm pleased to see that most have returned.
Commiserations to those who have not made it this year, but if you heed the advice and feedback (if given) I'm sure you will be better placed to succeed in any future selection procedure. As some have noted, it is the so called 'soft areas', where the candidate is perhaps being assessed on a rather more subjective basis, which can be decisive in determining success or rejection. These days that fact will apply in almost all areas of employee selection.
Commiserations to those who have not made it this year, but if you heed the advice and feedback (if given) I'm sure you will be better placed to succeed in any future selection procedure. As some have noted, it is the so called 'soft areas', where the candidate is perhaps being assessed on a rather more subjective basis, which can be decisive in determining success or rejection. These days that fact will apply in almost all areas of employee selection.
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I thought my post of 12th January had stunned everyone into an embarrassed silence...
Some current posters would do well to re-read their own contributions...
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I've done the same. Got a no from the OAA assessment and asked about feedback. They said they could give me a ring to talk about it which is encouraging, at least I'll know what to do and not to do next time!
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CTC results
From CTC Wing's FB page:
"The first two phases of this year’s British Airways selection process are now complete…one more phase to go for those who have been successful so far! Good luck everyone…!"
Keep an eye on your inbox!
"The first two phases of this year’s British Airways selection process are now complete…one more phase to go for those who have been successful so far! Good luck everyone…!"
Keep an eye on your inbox!
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CTC Stage 2
Very confused by the CTC Facebook post. Anyone know if they are they referring to the first two phases of the whole process (i.e. application and group exercise/aptitude tests), or the first two phases at CTC (i.e. group exercise/aptitude tests and interview)?
I attended stage 2 (group exercise and aptitude tests) at CTC at the beginning of December and still haven't heard back from them. Is anyone else in the same position?
I have read on here that some people have received rejections and some have been accepted and attended stage 3, I just wanted to know if anyone was in my situation and not heard anything since stage 2?
Thanks in advance and best of luck to everyone
I attended stage 2 (group exercise and aptitude tests) at CTC at the beginning of December and still haven't heard back from them. Is anyone else in the same position?
I have read on here that some people have received rejections and some have been accepted and attended stage 3, I just wanted to know if anyone was in my situation and not heard anything since stage 2?
Thanks in advance and best of luck to everyone
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As I understand it, it is stage 3 that is now finished (i.e. the one-on-one interview and numerical reasoning).
If you haven't heard back fro stage 3 you should probably contact them in case there has been a problem with emails etc.
If you haven't heard back fro stage 3 you should probably contact them in case there has been a problem with emails etc.
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If ctc are referring to a stage being finished I'm assuming its the third one as that is the one that was taking place. I could be wrong, it is just my own understanding of what they meant.