Merpati Nusantara Airlines
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Avia is a malaysian agency it has got ties with merpati for recruitment alone..
The 200$ goes to Avia's pocket..
Merpati and its officials are clean and decent.. Avia a couple of months back did recruitment for sriwijaya..
Anybody if known, likes to share how many expats other than malaysians were recruited for sriwijaya..??
The 200$ goes to Avia's pocket..
Merpati and its officials are clean and decent.. Avia a couple of months back did recruitment for sriwijaya..
Anybody if known, likes to share how many expats other than malaysians were recruited for sriwijaya..??
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The arrogance of some of you guys is just amazing.
Indonesia as of today is still a very face-to-face oriented country. You can hand in resumes via email and you'll never get a reply.
Expecting every recruitment agency to have a website is plain stupid.
1. You pay the 200 for the assessment. This is the same as with Jetstar's cadet programs.
2. They close the applications as soon as the hit 60 applicants. The fact that some of you haven't even paid and have been offered an interview slot shows a lot.
3. If you think that airlines need to give you a month's notice to give you, a dime a dozen cpl holder with no type, no time and no experience, an interview, you are NEVER going to get a job.
Indonesia as of today is still a very face-to-face oriented country. You can hand in resumes via email and you'll never get a reply.
Expecting every recruitment agency to have a website is plain stupid.
1. You pay the 200 for the assessment. This is the same as with Jetstar's cadet programs.
2. They close the applications as soon as the hit 60 applicants. The fact that some of you haven't even paid and have been offered an interview slot shows a lot.
3. If you think that airlines need to give you a month's notice to give you, a dime a dozen cpl holder with no type, no time and no experience, an interview, you are NEVER going to get a job.
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I do not think that we are ignorant. Suspicious is the right word. It is not about the 200 USD, it is about the flight ticket cost. Return ticket from Czech Republic to Jakarta costs another 1000 USD or more. If I go to an interview I expect some kind of pre-selection. Now it looks like that they are offering the interview to everyone who applied providing that you have paid 200 USD for the slot.
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I haven't applied to them but I've got friends flying for them already and they are both non-Malaysians, one flying the MA60, the other on the B737-800.
I don't know anything about the agencies you guys have been mentioning in this thread, but they way my friends got in is by talking to them over the phone and then heading over there for interviews. The way it use to be over there more
than a year ago was that they just took who ever applied.... believe it or not.
I don't know anything about the agencies you guys have been mentioning in this thread, but they way my friends got in is by talking to them over the phone and then heading over there for interviews. The way it use to be over there more
than a year ago was that they just took who ever applied.... believe it or not.
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Desperation or stupidity?
I work in Indonesia and I find it incredulous that some of you would even consider working for Merpati.
They have the worst safety record of any airline in the country and regularly stick one of their aeries into the side of a mountain. Only recently, about 6 months ago, they crashed one of their MA60's in Papua as they tried to descend below weather on a VFR only approach, killing all on board.
Also, to pay USD 24k for a type rating you can only ever use with them seems a rip off!! If you really want to fly for Merpati you might as well come see them face to face and they might give you a right hand seat on their widowmaker, the CASA 212, helll they will even pay your type rating
Please think twice before deciding to buy that ticket to Jakarta!
They have the worst safety record of any airline in the country and regularly stick one of their aeries into the side of a mountain. Only recently, about 6 months ago, they crashed one of their MA60's in Papua as they tried to descend below weather on a VFR only approach, killing all on board.
Also, to pay USD 24k for a type rating you can only ever use with them seems a rip off!! If you really want to fly for Merpati you might as well come see them face to face and they might give you a right hand seat on their widowmaker, the CASA 212, helll they will even pay your type rating
Please think twice before deciding to buy that ticket to Jakarta!
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You are maybe right, but I think it is worth a visit. I guess most of us are currently unemployed and seeking a First Officer job.
I can only speak for me, but if I don't try it and I don't find somewhere else a job I would probably kill me.
Of course it's a lot of money to invest, but you have to invest something to gain something.
I have read some of the accidents reports and according to them most of the accidents were caused by human error. So, I assess myself as a good pilot. But I can't judge how it is to fly there. So I will decide after the interview and test if I would like to work for them or not.
I can only speak for me, but if I don't try it and I don't find somewhere else a job I would probably kill me.
Of course it's a lot of money to invest, but you have to invest something to gain something.
I have read some of the accidents reports and according to them most of the accidents were caused by human error. So, I assess myself as a good pilot. But I can't judge how it is to fly there. So I will decide after the interview and test if I would like to work for them or not.
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They're interviewing 60 people and hiring 24.
So your odds are less than 50 percent.
If you're in Europe, you're looking at around $1000 for airfare plus hotels and food and the Test fee.
So maybe $1600 when all is said and done.
It money is no object, go for it!
So your odds are less than 50 percent.
If you're in Europe, you're looking at around $1000 for airfare plus hotels and food and the Test fee.
So maybe $1600 when all is said and done.
It money is no object, go for it!
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Try to google, this is the first thing that jumps at you http://traveloscopy.********.com/201...air-crash.html
Even though lot of us may be solid Pilots, this is still multi-crew airplane and decisions are made by captain and F/O together. I can just imagine that mixture of zero turbo-prop experience f/o and crapy captain can lead to an accident. I do not want to discourage anyone, that is just my reason together with luck of urgency, why I am not going.
Even though lot of us may be solid Pilots, this is still multi-crew airplane and decisions are made by captain and F/O together. I can just imagine that mixture of zero turbo-prop experience f/o and crapy captain can lead to an accident. I do not want to discourage anyone, that is just my reason together with luck of urgency, why I am not going.
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Got a email from Merpati Airlines today...
Like all other emails they write they have 37 slots left, want me to meet at Jarkarta 11.01.12
Im not going. It will be around 2600 dollars for me in travel fairs, hotel, food, course fee etc.
Sounds a bit sneakey for me.. And if you read about Merpati Airlines on the internet a lot of people are afraid of flying with them...
Like all other emails they write they have 37 slots left, want me to meet at Jarkarta 11.01.12
Im not going. It will be around 2600 dollars for me in travel fairs, hotel, food, course fee etc.
Sounds a bit sneakey for me.. And if you read about Merpati Airlines on the internet a lot of people are afraid of flying with them...
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Applying to this is all about how risk averse you are. As someone who works in Fraud investigation, I really do not like the sound of paying $200 to someone who operates off a gmail account. However that said, those that have applied have not been asked for the $200 which sounds a bit more promising.
I'm not going for it, because I have weighed up the pro's (might get an airline job and build flying hours) against the cons (could be a scam, could waste £1000, would have to beg my other half to move to Indonesia, poor safety record of airline, cost of type rating that would be useless afterwards, and i've not even started looking at other more local options yet).
If you are prepared to lose the initial layout then go for it though because you may strike lucky!
I'm not going for it, because I have weighed up the pro's (might get an airline job and build flying hours) against the cons (could be a scam, could waste £1000, would have to beg my other half to move to Indonesia, poor safety record of airline, cost of type rating that would be useless afterwards, and i've not even started looking at other more local options yet).
If you are prepared to lose the initial layout then go for it though because you may strike lucky!
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Merpati FO's interview
I have decided not to go for several reasons:
1) 24000usd for the TR on an MA60 a/c
2) After the TR and 3 yrs down the line, I will have to find work an MA60a/c, so I will be stuck in Asia for another while, as its Chinese a/c
3) I cant even contact the recruitment company to ask a few questions, or contact fly gosh
4) 3 year contract? What does this mean? It could mean I fly 3 hours per month for the next 3 years for all I know. They don't specify how many hours will be logged.
Thats my opinion and decision after thinking long and hard.
Back to square one.....for now!
1) 24000usd for the TR on an MA60 a/c
2) After the TR and 3 yrs down the line, I will have to find work an MA60a/c, so I will be stuck in Asia for another while, as its Chinese a/c
3) I cant even contact the recruitment company to ask a few questions, or contact fly gosh
4) 3 year contract? What does this mean? It could mean I fly 3 hours per month for the next 3 years for all I know. They don't specify how many hours will be logged.
Thats my opinion and decision after thinking long and hard.
Back to square one.....for now!
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I saw the advertisement as well for the job with Mertapi. No decent respectable company should/would make candidates pay for an interview or pay for training. It would be different case if they made you sign a training bond!
I know times are tough and we all want the best for our careers but, consider all the facts. You are actually paying your employer to work!
I know times are tough and we all want the best for our careers but, consider all the facts. You are actually paying your employer to work!
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Come on you muppets if you're going to pay-to-fly, at least do it on something that isn't a joke non-certified aircraft and a nightmare airline.
The time that you log will be worthless in the western world, and the actual "experience" will mostly consist of sitting still and shutting up while the captain scud runs a visual approach into a hick uncontrolled Indonesian strip in the mountains, with u/s navaids and huge CBs and terrain all around.
I would imagine that most chief pilots in Europe would run a mile from a CV that had Merpati and the X-60 as the main experience.
The time that you log will be worthless in the western world, and the actual "experience" will mostly consist of sitting still and shutting up while the captain scud runs a visual approach into a hick uncontrolled Indonesian strip in the mountains, with u/s navaids and huge CBs and terrain all around.
I would imagine that most chief pilots in Europe would run a mile from a CV that had Merpati and the X-60 as the main experience.
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Or it could be seen as valuable experience of the type that is no where to be found in Europe. I think worrying about what chief pilots think is a bit of a non issue considering there is very little under the pilots belt at present anyway. The worst case scenario is pilot has more experience and rated with experience in arguably a demanding and new environment but will need some extra training to meet European 'chief pilot' standards.
It may not be everyone's cup of tea but if pilots from Europe can go to Africa to build time in a 208 why not Indonesia in a more sophisticated aircraft. Expressing your views on what a 'chief pilot' will think is rather presumptuous.
It may not be everyone's cup of tea but if pilots from Europe can go to Africa to build time in a 208 why not Indonesia in a more sophisticated aircraft. Expressing your views on what a 'chief pilot' will think is rather presumptuous.
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Luke Skytoddler is spot on.
Indonesian aviation is in league of its own. Most Indonesian captains don't speak good English, have no real concept of CRM and don't follow SOP's. Its no joke, there is a reason why their safety record is what it is.
I recently witnessed a Batavia 737 land in a thunderstorm with a 10kt tailwind on a 1800m runway, only touching down around half way. I started to get my camera out as I thought I was witnessing a YouTube moment. They managed to stop 2 meters from the end, using full reverse all the way (even below 40kts). Pretty much sums it up I think.
If you still feel like its something for you, then by all means go ahead and sell your soul to Merpati. Just remember you were warned!
Indonesian aviation is in league of its own. Most Indonesian captains don't speak good English, have no real concept of CRM and don't follow SOP's. Its no joke, there is a reason why their safety record is what it is.
I recently witnessed a Batavia 737 land in a thunderstorm with a 10kt tailwind on a 1800m runway, only touching down around half way. I started to get my camera out as I thought I was witnessing a YouTube moment. They managed to stop 2 meters from the end, using full reverse all the way (even below 40kts). Pretty much sums it up I think.
If you still feel like its something for you, then by all means go ahead and sell your soul to Merpati. Just remember you were warned!
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@ G-ALICE
There recruiting for the MA-60 a/c, you know that right?
There looking for 24000usd to do a MA-60 type
Its not airbus pilots there looking for, unless of course you are going to pay for another type rating?!
There recruiting for the MA-60 a/c, you know that right?
There looking for 24000usd to do a MA-60 type
Its not airbus pilots there looking for, unless of course you are going to pay for another type rating?!