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Old 10th Jan 2016, 09:02
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Since I quit the company this year, I have been following this discussion from a distance, but now, I feel it is time to provide all those wannabies out there still considering this path some hard facts & truths about what you are thinking of getting yourself into. I know I would appreciate the same honesty and information if I was in your shoes.

The company has been in financial problems, which was discussed by management at all bases, since May 2015. When the aircraft air conditioning units became U/S, they are simply just removed and never replaced, making for a very long uncomfortable day, especially operating sometimes up to 6-10 sectors a day, when its 43 degrees on the tarmac, and you have sweat dripping into your eyes as you rotate for the 9th time that day. Whole engines have been left in foreign country workshops where they were sent for over haul for months on end, due to the lack of Rupiahs to get them released back online and most recently a partial engine failure has also been experienced.

The company also continues to break DCGA rules by carrying 12 passenger configurations instead of its 9 legal load passenger limit. With the company Issuing an email explaining to all flight crew that when they are ramped checked by DCGA officials, they must comply and remove 1 row of seats, but if there are no ramp checks carried out that day or until they are, management have authorized the non DCGA approved and instructed the carriage of up to 12 passengers. They are also trying to push crews into single pilot operations, in some cases as desperation of the times, starts to set in.

If you decide to go to Pangandaran, for an interview, expect to meet the training Manager or the chief pilot. The pair of them only obtaining their positions from years of back stabbing their fellow colleagues to climb an evil ladder. Your chances of actually passing the selection process is also about 1 in 4.

If you make it online and have decided to go that far, (after paying for your $2500 USD training) expect to live like a homeless person. Every few days you will have to move to anew room or anew house, where ever there is a free bed as you have no permanent quarters. The beds you sleep in will, in 90% of my experiences, will be riddled with ants or cockroaches. The pillows will be many years old & stained with the drool of hundreds of previous poor souls who have used them before. The food and preparation is extremely concerning, 50% of the time it is eatable, but not healthy nor clean depending on your base…

ATC in the county is a mess and pilots are pushed to fatigue levels as management get more & more desperate with the walls starting to crumble in all around them. I have never worked with such a large number of professionals that are so unhappy with their working environment, conditions and employer. Ever since we received our pay cut on the 1st of July (which has been well documented in this thread) Morale Plummeted & hit an all-time low. It was the final straw for a lot of long term serving staff, the last 18 – 24 months, management have been cutting the T&C’s and now, they still continue to offer employment contracts one quarter what they use to be. The only pilots left are the ones that need a few more months of pay before pulling the pin & ejecting.

95% of the pilots in Susi are an awesome and are an amazing group of people from all corners, for the rest of the crews still stuck in that depressing situation, I wish you all the very best, and I hope you all escape that place real soon, before something bad happens. You all deserve so much better.

My advice, do not waste your time, money or efforts on an interview with this crumbling establishment.

Susi may have been a good place many, many years ago, but today, it is the worst place to be a pilot……
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Old 16th Jan 2016, 12:41
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Feb 5th to 10th Interviews

Just got an email invitation for interview Feb 5th to Feb 10th... any one is going? perhaps we can link up and meet say in Singapore or something? That's where I'm from anyway.
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Old 20th Jan 2016, 05:40
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On the subject of flying with only 9 seats, an email that was forwarded to me from someone within Susi Air has confirmed that management did indeed say something along the lines of, stick to 12 unless the DGCA catch you.

On top of that, the DGCA grounded an aircraft in Jakarta after it found that the GPS navigation database had expired some weeks ago and forced the pilots to MEL it (10 days) from the date of expiry (more than 10 days previous). Navigation databases that constantly expire by the way as the company doesn't want to pay for sufficient subscriptions for all of its aircraft.

I hear some positive news however; the medan base manager has resigned. He was another self-obsessed, ass-kisser. I also hear that the esteemed training manager has resigned. Rumour has it that the position has been offered to one of the 95% of the decent, normal pilots but he is either yet to accept or be 'approved' by the master herself.

From what I have been told by pilots still at Susi, 2016 is on track to becoming another shitty year.

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Old 21st Jan 2016, 07:53
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I'm surprised how accurate are the informations mentionned by "good magenta" and unfortunately everything said is entirely true...

"ShyTalkKnight" is also right and as per today it does seem indeed that it is gonna be another shitty year for the remaining pilots/slaves within Susi Air.

Also there is still no communication about the 12k rate supposed to be used until end of 2015 and as usual the "great" management of this company is remaining quiet, probably thinking that the good slaves are not gonna dare asking for the legitimate update about the money they should receive as salary...

Last thing, it seems that the d**khead who sent the threatning e-mails to the pilots (that you still can read previously) is back to the company after an epic fail within a low cost airline in europe, so unfortunately it might balance the great loss of the training manager...

Good luck to the 95%
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Old 25th Jan 2016, 13:22
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I hear that the 12,000 rupiah rate is staying.
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Old 30th Jan 2016, 13:11
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Susi Air is a company that lacks of organization...I want here few months a go that is terrible! salary now is around 700 usd a month for minimum 6 months, the training can take 3 months due to the low staff and aircraft disposition, so you wait wait wait and wait everyday in the shitty "hotel" and spilt the little room with a another guy. Training manager living end of January ... good thing because he is always in a bad mood and make you feel like a idiot!!! that funny because company hiring pilot who fails the simulator ride but pass the interview well...and rejected pilot who pass the sim at 100% and fails the interview a bit because they dont know the population of Indonesia LOL, That make no sense!
Training bond F/O is 2500$ usd and they give you back your money after 2 years CAPT so after 4 years in general... and CAPT training is 1500 usd.... so a lot of pilot do not still see the color of their money. finally Good luck to have a services there... there no acknowledge of your emails, there no accommodation flight even if you use their company and the scheduler asleep at the switch, flight are 1 hour late ....!!!

In summary...stay away from this company
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Old 30th Jan 2016, 21:40
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Slave labor

Susi air

Salary
FO top 15,000,000 Indonesian Rupiah / month= About 1000€ Or 1100$
FO base 9,360,000 Indonesian Rupiah / month= About 620€ Or 680$

Come on, Slave labor should be prohibited.
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Old 2nd Feb 2016, 09:27
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Yeah slave labour when you have free housing, transport, laundry and food....

I make 2000 euros after tax flying in europe and I dont have that kind of cash left over when I am done paying all the bills.

Don´t judge a book by its cover!
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Old 3rd Feb 2016, 15:06
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I feel like I must comment on this forum to provide some positive insight of my experiences with Susi Air. From what I have seen everybody posts only negative comments which is depressing and sad. I am a pilot who has been employed with Susi Air for several years now.

I have been employed before in aviation in my home country before I came to Susi Air, so I can compare what I have now to what I had back home. Back in my home country the jobs market for pilots with little experience is very challenging. The fact is what I have now is by far better then what my previous employer provided me.

Starting pay at Susi Air is low, but for me it was still more then what my previous aviation employer paid me and once you are sitting in the left hand seat and have been around for a little while the pay increases exponentially. Also when you take into account the fact that your accommodation, meals and transport is provided everything you earn is savings.

Also my previous employer did not provide me with just under fours months of hoildays per year. So what I have now is a good deal compared to before. Yes the company has changed in many ways since when I first joined, it has changed in both positive and negative ways. I have meet some incredible people and made friends for life and as a person I have really grown and developed by living and working in a country like Indonesia.

Coming from a first world country and not having lived and worked overseas before, it was a major culture shock when I first started with the company. But once I settled in, I experienced a different world, traveled to amazing places, experienced a different way of life, meet and got to know people from a different culture and background that is so different then mine. This opened my eyes and changed me as a person for the better.

My years with Susi Air have been an incredible adventure which I have enjoyed. Yes, I have had my ups and downs. Unfortunately, there are some pilots at the company that have a sense of entitlement. Who will always complain and will never be happy. Some of theses people have resigned, some still employed who need to move on. Some pilots with Susi Air think that they are flying for a company like Emirates and expect to be treated so, they forget that they are bush pilots.

So to any pilots looking at joining the company please understand that most people only post the negative online not the positive. The flying here is incredible and better then anything I have done back home back far. As a professional pilot I have learned so much and gained so much experience. Flying in places like Papua is something that I will always cherish and has been life changing.

Susi Air provides a great platform for people all over the world and will continue to do so. To any pilots looking at joining the company look at both the positive and the negative. Keep an open mind, Indonesia is a very different place depending on where you are coming from. If you are employed by the company you are very lucky because you are in for one hell of an adventure, where you will do some incredible flying with some great people.
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Old 4th Feb 2016, 10:06
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Cloud surfer..........

One of the problems facing any new contributor to this forum is the issue of credibility.
This is your first post, and yet you say that you are a long standing employee. Why is it only now that you are putting your head above the parapet?
Naturally people might well be suspicious of your bona fides.

Whilst there will no doubt be an element of truth in what you say, the picture you paint when compared to the vast majority of contributors simply lacks credibility. One might well come to the conclusion that you are no more than a "management lackey". Go back to your masters and say it simply does not wash.
Tell them that the most important assets are the employees, the engineers and the pilots are top of the pile. They need a fundamental change to their modus operandi if the company is going to survive the total implosion.
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Old 6th Feb 2016, 07:09
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I want to comment again to provide more input to this open discussion about Susi Air. In my previous post and all future posts, it is my intention to remain as objective and professional as possible. I wish to provide an accurate account of what I as a individual have experienced in my time in the aviation industry.

Edsbar, Susi Air pilots work a schedule of 24 days on, 8 days off or 30 days on, 10 days off. On top of this is four weeks per year of annual leave. This does vary depending on your base. Papua is different depending on which seat you sit in. This provides a lot of time to relax by the pool in Bali, travel around Asia or fly home to spend time with your friends and family.

Massey058, absolutely there have been declines in conditions to name a few as of recent eg. closing Balikpapan base, paying in IDR instead of USD. Theses changes for the worse have hurt morale, I am not oblivious to this fact. But the fact still remains for me as a individual this job is by far a lot better then what my previous employer provided me with. Also, I am still saving a lot of money (more then I ever saved before I came to Susi Air) and my bank account is healthy.

Parkfell, the reason I created a new account on PPRuNe is because I wish to protect my anonymity as a individual. I am not the first to do it while commenting on this forum and I doubt I will be the last. I have worked hard at Susi Air, I have always strived to improve myself to become a better pilot for the company and for myself. I believe what you put in is directly proportional to what you will get out. This company has provided me with so much not just professionally also personally.

Susi Air is really what you make it. If you have a good attitude you will enjoy your time with the company, do some great flying, grow as a professional pilot, colleagues will become like family. You will also grow personally in many ways for the better. If you have a bad attitude you will not enjoy your time with the company.

If you join the company remember that you are a bush pilot. Accept Indonesia as it is, it is very different to the rest of the developed world. Indonesia is not going to change because you want it to, it will change over time because the Indonesian people want it to change. Enjoy the adventure. Happy landings.

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Old 7th Feb 2016, 10:52
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cloudsurfer, pilots are attracted to advancement, or even just getting to fly, more so than conditions, especially at the lower end of the industry. Like you say you have been able to increase your conditions versus your previous employer. But then these conditions have since declined over time.

This is the rub that people reading this thread need to understand.

The issue is then for people joining now to consider where things are going and whether or not, on balance, they will get something out of it that makes the effort worth it. For those of us that did our time or are still doing it, it is a different equation.

If you join the company remember that you are a bush pilot. Accept Indonesia as it is, it is very different to the rest of the developed world. Indonesia is not going to change because you want it to, it will change over time because the Indonesian people want to to change.
Does being a bush pilot mean you should have lower standards? I'm not sure that is a helpful way to consider things. I believe to stay alive as a 'bush pilot' you need to have exceedingly high standards. You are right that you can't go to any company believing that you can change anything. Conversely though, the original intention for allowing large numbers of foreign pilots into the country was to help in improving the industry coming off the back of some serious fatal accidents earlier this century. That puts a responsibility on foreign pilots, bush pilots or not, to act professionally in all aspects, at the controls or within the organisation. Taking a individualistic, I'll be right jack, approach only serves to perpetuate the decline.

A lot of changes, I'm talking industry-wide, in Indonesia have come about not just from Indonesians deciding they need to be done, I saw some improvements because of the persistence of foreigners or foreign organisations. Sadly, foreigners are also responsible for some of the declines.

Ultimately this is a thread for people to consider if they want to take the leap. I know from my experience I had an amazing time (on balance) and worked with some wonderful people. I also know that despite small wins the decline in the organisation persisted, exponentially so once people took a more individualistic approach. So with declining standards, decreasing conditions and an ageing fleet people need to weigh that against the amazing experience and adventure for however long it may last.

Lastly, the competitive environment also needs to be considered. With a lot of former customers starting their own operations and larger organisations moving into sub-20 seat territory, Susi Air is increasingly being squeezed out of the market. With a political landscape that is a the Javanese equivalent of a House of Cards/Game of Thrones mashup the fact the owner and still ultimate CEO is a cabinet minister might not be enough.

For the sake of the good people left, I hope it is and I hope things get better despite that.
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Old 7th Feb 2016, 18:15
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Massey058, in no way did I intend to state that in being a bush pilot you should have low standards. As per my first post on this forum which you responded to "some pilots with Susi Air think that they are flying for a company like Emirates and expect to be treated so, they forget that they are bush pilots". When I stated "if you join the company remember that you are a bush pilot". The message I was trying to convey was that Susi Air is not a legacy airline, if you join the company and expect the benefits and conditions of an Emirates pilot for example, you are going to be disappointed. Perhaps I should have been more detailed in my pervious statement.

I agree with you 100%, as a bush pilot you need to have exceedingly high standards. Indonesia is one of the worlds most dangerous places to fly. When I say "accept Indonesia as it is, it is very different to the rest of the developed world. Indonesia is not going to change because you want it to, it will change over time because the Indonesian people want it to change". My intention in saying this is if you join the company, do not get angry, for example, at local airports radio operators because of their radio phraseology? If you get upset, angry and try to change little things like this you are not doing yourself any favours. Again, perhaps I should have been more detailed.

I agree with the majority of your post, but I disagree when you say standards have declined and the fleet is ageing. Do you mean pilots standards? Please feel free to elaborate. Before I came to Susi Air some of the aircraft I was flying where made in the late 1970s. The C208s at Susi Air are 8 or 9 years old give or take and a lot are equipped with G1000s. In my opinion they are not old, but maybe that is just me and because I am used to flying a lot older aircraft.

I honestly believe that Susi Air will be around for many years to come. I believe that the company will provide many more pilots with the experience I have been very fortunate to have. When I joined the company I was just happy to be advancing my career, now I have experience flying turbines in a multi crew, RPT operation. This has made me attractive to other aviation company's back in my home country and overseas.

Maybe the vast majority of operations will be shifted to Papua because of increased competition at the other bases. Who knows, I do not have a crystal ball and can not predict the future.

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Old 8th Feb 2016, 07:29
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Cloudsurfer......

You say that the country is one the most dangerous places to fly

It only becomes that if the safety is an issue. The accident rate being a key marker. It becomes safer when appropriate counter measures are put in place to mitigate the threats.

Standards drop unless positive steps are taken.

That is not going to happen unless there is good leadership, and the quality of the training is such that it educates the workforce.
You also need the necessary people to pass on their experiences to the junior birdmen.
With a pick up in hiring of pilots, those going to Susi will be those unable to find employment elsewhere.
Implosion cannot be ruled out unfortunately.......
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Old 8th Feb 2016, 08:47
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if you join the company and expect the benefits and conditions of an Emirates pilot for example, you are going to be disappointed. Perhaps I should have been more detailed in my pervious statement.
Yeah except that is a complete misnomer. People should be able to expect the maintenance of conditions, not the continual degradation. There was a large drop in conditions when the GFC took hold in 2008. Things did not go back to how they were despite the strength of the Rupiah.

My intention in saying this is if you join the company, do not get angry, for example, at local airports radio operators because of their radio phraseology? If you get upset, angry and try to change little things like this you are not doing yourself any favours. Again, perhaps I should have been more detailed
I'm sure you can find better examples. RTF phraseology is the least of anyone's worries!

I agree with the majority of your post, but I disagree when you say standards have declined and the fleet is ageing. Do you mean pilots standards? Please feel free to elaborate. Before I came to Susi Air some of the aircraft I was flying where made in the late 1970s. The C208s at Susi Air are 8 or 9 years old give or take and a lot are equipped with G1000s. In my opinion they are not old, but maybe that is just me and because I am used to flying a lot older aircraft.
Pilot standards are and will continue to be the only thing that saves Susi Air, despite itself. 1970's aircraft or 2000's aircraft are not the issue. If you have been there as long as you say and are on good terms with the Engineers you know the issues.

Maybe the vast majority of operations will be shifted to Papua because of increased competition at the other bases. Who knows, I do not have a crystal ball and can not predict the future.
In the late 00's when Susi Air began flying in Papua there was almost no competition. Since then 7-8 competitors have sprung up, a few of them former customers. At least 1 competitor is a member of PDI-P. Not for trying by those that were there but the ball was well and truly dropped on Papua - it used to be a money printing press for the company.

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Old 8th Feb 2016, 15:06
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Life is easy with cloudsurferinasia... do nothing and just see how Indonesia and Susi Air will treat you and don't complain because you have nothing to say and no power to change anything...

So your last employer was worse so we should be happy because there's worse than Susi Air in the world...yeahhhh great great

Also regarding the "bush pilot" thing. I have to laugh seriously! Susi Air pilots are not bush pilots for a huge majority of them and if you consider yourself as one it's good on you but please do not include all the people who don't wanna have to deal with anything related with your definition of bush pilot!

Let's just see all the guys who left to fly highly demanding aircrafts both in corporate and commercial airlines.They made it because they were actually the opposite of what you call bush pilots but thanks to their "airline pilot attitude" and habits that they took and kept flying the Van like any other airline plane respecting the rules including the SOP/COM which are by the way inspired from Cathay Pacific back in the days.
So those pilots never needed to expect being treated like "Emirates' pilots" but they knew that flying to remote areas while connecting the small cities to the bigger ones is not an excuse to skip the Expat standards that every pilot leaving his/her family, friends and life should be in position to expect.
Once again, reading you sounds like because it's Susi Air, pilots should be happy to live with degraded conditions and shut their mouth enjoying the piece of chicken and rice the company provide them everyday...

Also you mentionned ATC, shall I laugh again? No because if foreign pilots can't blame those people unable to speak English out of the script they read daily without understanding a single word of what they are reading and saying, then it's all fine, let's be in peace and pray that those guys won't send a plane to crash into another like it's been close to happen so many times... Maybe expats could bring their experience to teach them, explain them, share experience and knowledge to make aviation in Indonesia safer...but no sorry we are not allowed to think this way since "Indonesia is not going to change because you want it to, it will change over time because the Indonesian people want it to change" Well let them do it and wait for the next crash to happen with a nice smile on our faces hoping it won't be another Susi Air Crash this time... But yes you're right, let the Indonesians do it themselves, it's better...

If like you say Susi will end up losing all their routes except in papua like this is happening slowly for few years now, it will be entirely Susi's fault and her huge lack of knowledge of aviation + lask of competence doing business generally. So you're happy with that, good on you once again, but I'm sorry to tell you that you must feel lonely in your own company when you believe "that Susi Air will be around for many years to come". The "crisis" of last year hasn't been enough for you maybe to realise how badly managed and how poorly competitive this company is for already many years. Or maybe that was fake and just a way to say goodbye to many skillful pilots and cut the salary of the remaining ones?? That's also possible but whatever the answer since you seem to be really with that and your colleagues should be the same!

Finally I'll say that you're entirely right about the fact that you meet awesome people while working with Susi Air and yes you create friendships for life while you're earning human and pilot experience. But I'm sorry to believe that every single Susi Air pilot probably had life before working there and even if I totally understand your point, nobody needs to work for Susi to meet people, to make awesome friendships but all the pilots left a part of themselves behind by joining this company and the treatment they get nowadays for doing it is getting as bad as the P2F schemes. It might look different but in the end you still have passionated, naive or desperate pilots accepting to pay and to live in the very bad conditions previously mentionned just because one person on top of all is using this passion to make money with it...yes that's the same because you've been good to avoid mentionning some important details about Susi Air pilot life nowadays...

Ah yes you got 4 months of holidays per year...huhuuuuu and you get (bad) food, (bad/dirty) accomodation and transportation to go to work and come back to your dirty house... What a paradise life.
Then you'll explain us how a new guy with 850USD converted into rupiah with a rate of 15% less than the actual value can survive when he has to pay 2500USD with real value to make it into Susi Air (I don't even wanna talk about the money already invested to come to the interview with EVEN the Susi Air Flight to pay nowadays when before it was fully taken in charge by the company INVITING you).
Then there's eventually a loan to pay back home for his/her pilot school. The pilot must remain current in his/her home country with his home License, so for most of the pilots it means tickets to Europe, South Africa, America, Australia, NZ,... + the cost of the PPC itself so what's the budget? 1500 USD? 2000USD? So at least 3 months of salary already gone... Also it's nice to have holidays or days off but is Susi air providing accomodation during your days off? Apparently not anymore! There's not even a home base anymore for people working in Kalimantan, so for a poor copilot with his/her poor rookie salary it means spending money to sleep somewhere around during days off, or going home (plane tickets again),...ah yes it's probably very nice to have holidays with your current salary (Seniority + Papua) but back to your copilot time, maybe there was something called "Senjaya house" where any Susi Pilot could have gone during days off for free in Jakarta and rest and save money...ah yes maybe you were part of this (not that) old generation that could enjoy some small details that were making a huge difference for Pilot's life but that has disappeared now and the list could be very long of details like this.

Anyway I'm gonna stop now because I believe everyone has gotten my point. You're living the dream, fair enough, but it's not because you come from a worse place and you have crap lifestyle standards that you should make a generality of it and tell the world that Susi is nice for whoever is keen to accept crap!
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Old 10th Feb 2016, 05:41
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I have been following all Susi Air related discussion online and of course have enjoyed the YouTube show worst place to be a pilot. I loved the episodes and parts of the series on mountain flying in Papua. I am currently flying a 210 in Africa and I have submitted my application in with Susi Air and am hoping to get an interview. I would love to one day fly the 208 and maybe if I earn it get on to the Porter in Papua one day. VDH59.... please follow in the foot steps of Good Magenta and leave the company. Do everybody who is interviewing and or trying to get an interview a favour. If you really hate your situation so much, it is better to allow someone else to have the opportunity you have been lucky to have been given. Parkfell.... saying that future Susi Air pilots who are joining the company will not be able to get employed else where because of a pickup in the international market is simply fiction.

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Old 10th Feb 2016, 21:51
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If you had actually read what I said, you would not have responded with such gibberish.

Read it again, and this time pay attention. aka. RTFQ #451
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Old 11th Feb 2016, 14:22
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email recruiting

Hi

I am trying to send an email to recruiting susiair but it doesn't work and an automatic email answer to me that it's not possible to send emails.
Does it happen to someone?
Is there any alternative email?

Thanks
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Old 12th Feb 2016, 07:31
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They don't like being contacted and they don't like pilots in the company recommending people. You just have to wait.
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