F.O. Positions?

[YoelK]

So how's the market out there for F.O. positions for fresh out of FTO with a JAA Frozen ATPL with MCC + JOC?
Does anyone know of any availabilities in Europe and especially the U.K.? . . . Willing to relocate actually... practically anywhere.

[zondaracer]

Wizzair was hiring last I checked. You will have to pay for a rating as well. When you start doing some research and talking with people, you'll see that there are some jobs, although few and far between.

[YoelK]

Hmm, would rather not pay for Type Rating if possible. Looking at those as a last/worst case scenario. But thanks for the info so far guys, will look into those.

[zondaracer]

Yeah, unfortunately, there´s not much out there. Even less if you don´t want to pay for a type rating. Sometimes the opportunities come and go very fast so you will have to always keep a look out. Additionally, lots of guys here and everywhere who have sent out dozens, if not hundreds of CVs to those few coveted jobs. I´m surprised, tho, that you are asking now, after finishing at your flying school. Most guys I know start looking and are well aware of what´s out there well before completion and have already braced themselves. Either way, good luck.

You could also look at the Cathay Pacific cadet program. Lots of info if you browse through the threads here.

[Rithalic]

depends on a few other bits and pieces requirements wise.

before i do give you a brief and quick rundown of what im aware of so you can start applying, you really should be find this stuff out for yourself. noone is going to spoon feed you into a job and part of being a pilot (especially wanting to be an airline pilot) is keeping yourself aware of what is going on in the industry. You clearly have a computer and the internet so searching and researching for positions is something you should be getting adept at.

BA Cityflyer - Trainee Entry Pilot Programme
Wizzair - if you have 240hrs, joc, specific a levels etc
Jet 2 -can't remember anyting specific off the top of my head
Flybe - if they are still taking new applicants.
ryanair - if you have £30k
cathay - second officer programme


you might also consider sending a cv to:
suckling airways
eastern airways
dhl
and the list goes on and on and on

best of luck

[Niceflight]

You can forget Wizzair if you are low hours even if you are type rated on A320 (my case). I got information directly from chief pilot last week. They are looking for experienced pilots only (rated or not on airbus).

[beamer]

How many hours have you got on commercial aircraft ?

[Rithalic]

" You can forget Wizzair if you are low hours even if you are type rated on A320 (my case). I got information directly from chief pilot last week. They are looking for experienced pilots only (rated or not on airbus)."

So are we to assume which of the following:

a) they were testing the water to see how many potential low hour pilots were out there
b) had too much paper delivered to the office and forgot to pay the heating bill so printed out our applications to add to the fire

I'm tempted to try and reach z) with ever more ridiculous possibilities but its late, im tired and flying something shaped as it is and then painted pink is probably not something we'd want to do anyways.

[cavallino]

No, they just use standard pilot database, everybody has the right to register but Wizzair uses simple queries to select all pilots with several criterias :
- Total Flight Time
- Nb of hours on type A320
- Language spoken
- Permanent address

I am in contact with Wizzair chief pilot too and he tells me that priority is given to local pilots to avoid turn over. They are looking for pilots with a lot of hours TT + type rating (expat or not) but they agree hiring pilots with less experience and no type rating if they are local. So pilots with less than 500h TT have no chance to join Wizzair even if they hold an A320 type rating from ETOPS. By the way, be carefull to TRTO like ETOPS Aviation Services in Toulouse because they used Wizzair Cadet Program as an argument to sell A320 Type Rating. The guys paid for their type rating, they were promised a line training at Wizzair followed by a permanent employment at Wizzair but it was a fake. I know several low hour pilots in this case. They paid their A320 type rating but Wizzair will not hire them and they are still looking for a job on the bus. Currently, they have no chance to find a job with no hours on type. They spent money for nothing (except for TRTO managers which ride Porches and other crazy cars).

[sky&ocean]

Hi,

Did you try BA Cityflyer ?
They are recruiting right now and it's a very nice place to be. The pay might not be the most attractive but you get to fly a nice plane : Embraer 170.

They have a pretty straight forward recruiting process and offer a base in London and possibly (but not sure) Edinburgh !

Have a look on their website.

Good luck.

[straightnotlevel]

f/o jobs

west atlantic in coventry uk are advertising for direct entry captains & first officers on the ATP...but be quick, good luck all. (not sure if you have to pay or not)

[EK4457]

Recruitment / Home - West Atlantic

Applicants are requested to provide means of self-funding the type-rating cost which totals €17,500 on the BAe ATP.

Ouch. Many will pay for it though.

Also an 800 hour requirement. If you have been able to afford to instruct full time for the last few years then you could be in with a shout....