BA Future Pilot Programme (FPP)(Merged)
I am suggesting that the application to place ratio is higher at some FTOs than others. Logic follows that if one had twice as many applicants as the other, then competition for those limited places will be more fierce.
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I finished a master and bachelor course with an average grade of 7,5 (out of 10, it will be a B minus?), so not an extraordinary high grade. My CV is reasonable and I'm currently holding an (maybe for BA/FTE) attractive job, with a lot of responsibilities. I have some little flying experience.
I was invited for stage one, and I did the assessment saturday. In my opinion BA/FTE didn't focussed to much on my grades (math, physics and english aren't sky high) regarding my application, but thought I may have an interesting profile.
I was invited for stage one, and I did the assessment saturday. In my opinion BA/FTE didn't focussed to much on my grades (math, physics and english aren't sky high) regarding my application, but thought I may have an interesting profile.
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Xanderfly - Perhaps you are, but I don't think the Master qualification would hold any more weight than having only a Bachelor degree. For your information, 7.5/10.0 (i.e. 75%) would be a 1st class honours here in the UK. dont forget to use "." instead of "," for your decimal points, this is the UK afterall and its a headache to read :P
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GroundLoop,
I understand what you mean, but I still believe that there would be a significant discrepancy between the 100 selected from the 800 rather than the 400. Simple probability would suggest that that with the greater pool of candidates (all with good academic credentials) may select more outstanding applicants. As I previously stated however, this would likely be irrelevant anyway considering that BA would have their own criteria at stage 3.
I understand what you mean, but I still believe that there would be a significant discrepancy between the 100 selected from the 800 rather than the 400. Simple probability would suggest that that with the greater pool of candidates (all with good academic credentials) may select more outstanding applicants. As I previously stated however, this would likely be irrelevant anyway considering that BA would have their own criteria at stage 3.
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Xanderfly - Perhaps you are, but I don't think the Master qualification would hold any more weight than having only a Bachelor degree. For your information, 7.5/10.0 (i.e. 75%) would be a 1st class honours here in the UK.
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Slipper One - Yeah, good one! didn't think about that perspective! that said, it suggests that their degrees (or indeed examinations) are a darn site easier :P but for the record, low 60's is in fact a 2:1! 40% = 3rd, 50% = 2:2, 60% = 2:1 70% = 1st!
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Guys, sorry I can't get access to page 33 of this thread for some reason. I asked a question earlier and I don't know if it was actually posted or even got an answer, so here goes again (apologies if it's the 2nd time):
Is there a possibility that the FTOs or BA will put some of those applicants that don't make it through Stage 2 and 3 "on hold" for the future tranche?
If so, it makes life more difficult for some of us who are looking to apply at the next available opportunity. My concern is that they will have too many good candidates and no more new applications will be accepted for the next tranche. Is this a remote possibility?
Is there a possibility that the FTOs or BA will put some of those applicants that don't make it through Stage 2 and 3 "on hold" for the future tranche?
If so, it makes life more difficult for some of us who are looking to apply at the next available opportunity. My concern is that they will have too many good candidates and no more new applications will be accepted for the next tranche. Is this a remote possibility?
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Bearcat,
In answer to your question, BA have, historically, wiped the recruitment slate clean and started afresh with each new 'wave'.
Ask the guys who were swimming in the pool when the first dip of this never ending recession kicked in! BA emptied the pool and then invited all those who were swimming to re-apply.
I don't see any reason for it to be any different for the FPP program but, as the FTO's have a finger in the pie, it may be different this time.
In answer to your question, BA have, historically, wiped the recruitment slate clean and started afresh with each new 'wave'.
Ask the guys who were swimming in the pool when the first dip of this never ending recession kicked in! BA emptied the pool and then invited all those who were swimming to re-apply.
I don't see any reason for it to be any different for the FPP program but, as the FTO's have a finger in the pie, it may be different this time.
before the world economy crashes that is
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Don't even joke mate- the news is getting scary again! Hopefully it's just journalistic scaremongering rather than anything more sinister. You only need to skim these forums to get a sense of what happened after the last recession
The EU needs to get this Greek/ Portuguese/ Italian/ Spanish mess sorted, and the US needs to show us some better growth figures too... unfortunately not looking great right now. But it doesn't take long for the tide to turn.
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"Well I hold a significant amount of stock on the stock exchange"... at 19 years of age.... wow.
FedEx news overnight was somewht diasppointing, looks like it could be a lean year or two for freight operators. But that is the subject for another tread....
FedEx news overnight was somewht diasppointing, looks like it could be a lean year or two for freight operators. But that is the subject for another tread....
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Acceptance for Stage 2
Hello Everyone.
This will be my first ever post on the PPRuNe forum so please be gentle.
I have just received a standard email from OAA regarding the FPP, stating the following:
Thank you for your application for the British Airways Future Pilot Programme. We are delighted to invite you forward to attend Stage 2 of the selection process at Oxford Aviation Academy.
Of course I am overjoyed by this and have selected my assesment date at the 05th Oct 2011. Now the preparation begins!
I just wondered if anyone (who has maybe been through OAA) would know if OAA can facilitate couples (ie accomodation wise). As I have a fiancé who I have been living with for 3 years and would like to continue doing so if they can offer this.
Also, how is everyone funding the "non-training" element of the overall costs. Ie The one-off additional fee of £2900, food and other such general living costs?
I wish everyone the best of luck!
This will be my first ever post on the PPRuNe forum so please be gentle.
I have just received a standard email from OAA regarding the FPP, stating the following:
Thank you for your application for the British Airways Future Pilot Programme. We are delighted to invite you forward to attend Stage 2 of the selection process at Oxford Aviation Academy.
Of course I am overjoyed by this and have selected my assesment date at the 05th Oct 2011. Now the preparation begins!
I just wondered if anyone (who has maybe been through OAA) would know if OAA can facilitate couples (ie accomodation wise). As I have a fiancé who I have been living with for 3 years and would like to continue doing so if they can offer this.
Also, how is everyone funding the "non-training" element of the overall costs. Ie The one-off additional fee of £2900, food and other such general living costs?
I wish everyone the best of luck!
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Has anybody else heard from BA?
First of all, big thanks to ‘Mad Jock’ and all those who kindly wrote to assist with those little teething problems I encountered, especially ‘TP’ who PM’d to advise that I need to be more adept at distinguishing between seconds and minutes if I am to enjoy a successful career with B.A..
However, in light of a letter received from B.A. in the morning post, I consider it purely academic:
Dear Mr. Branson,
I write in response to your recent application in my capacity as Pilot-in-Chief for British Airways. As an extremely busy and revered member of the company, I wholly disapprove of having to burden myself with the menial task of replying to applicants directly. However, in the circumstances you have left me no option. I refer to your recent erroneous assumption that, “no one from B.A. bothers to read the pages of PPRuNe,” posted in a message on the popular internet website: ‘Professional Pilots Rumour Network.’ I refer also to your feeble attempts at inciting others to ‘give the game away’ in relation to the selection process, to say nothing of your apparent contempt for my favourite workhorse, the A320 Airbus, which continues to provide a sterling service to the world’s favourite airline.
Notwithstanding assiduous warnings against, from the droves of harbingers and rather irksome aspiring company men alike, you continued to probe and prod in utter defiance of a clear and absolute directive prohibiting you from doing so, with your frequent and random jottings on those aforementioned hallowed pages.
Seldom, in a very long and distinguished career, have I seen such brazen displays of sheer arrogance and impudence in equal measure but on this occasion, Branson, you have certainly taken the biscuit.
Frankly, however, I don’t give a flying toss if you discuss the minutiae of the application process during the most indiscrete pillow talk with my dear, darling wife or even my most treasured mistress; I’ll leave those big girls’ blouses in H.R. to deal with that. However, I DO take particular exception to being reminded that I am indeed a “snidey, miserable ol’ bggr” (as you coined it!), especially by some northern semi-literate who cannot even spell his own name!
Ergo, have taken the decision to deal with this matter myself, and although the process has left me with a rather sore bottom, the experience of dispensing with your application has given me an immeasurable sense of satisfaction.
Good riddance, Branson; there’s no room for your kind here!
Gloves (Capt.)
PS….Top marks for ingenuity BTW. Have followed instruction to the letter, and constructed my own simulator as you describe. Really works rather splendidly.
Anyone have Virign’s number handy?
However, in light of a letter received from B.A. in the morning post, I consider it purely academic:
Dear Mr. Branson,
I write in response to your recent application in my capacity as Pilot-in-Chief for British Airways. As an extremely busy and revered member of the company, I wholly disapprove of having to burden myself with the menial task of replying to applicants directly. However, in the circumstances you have left me no option. I refer to your recent erroneous assumption that, “no one from B.A. bothers to read the pages of PPRuNe,” posted in a message on the popular internet website: ‘Professional Pilots Rumour Network.’ I refer also to your feeble attempts at inciting others to ‘give the game away’ in relation to the selection process, to say nothing of your apparent contempt for my favourite workhorse, the A320 Airbus, which continues to provide a sterling service to the world’s favourite airline.
Notwithstanding assiduous warnings against, from the droves of harbingers and rather irksome aspiring company men alike, you continued to probe and prod in utter defiance of a clear and absolute directive prohibiting you from doing so, with your frequent and random jottings on those aforementioned hallowed pages.
Seldom, in a very long and distinguished career, have I seen such brazen displays of sheer arrogance and impudence in equal measure but on this occasion, Branson, you have certainly taken the biscuit.
Frankly, however, I don’t give a flying toss if you discuss the minutiae of the application process during the most indiscrete pillow talk with my dear, darling wife or even my most treasured mistress; I’ll leave those big girls’ blouses in H.R. to deal with that. However, I DO take particular exception to being reminded that I am indeed a “snidey, miserable ol’ bggr” (as you coined it!), especially by some northern semi-literate who cannot even spell his own name!
Ergo, have taken the decision to deal with this matter myself, and although the process has left me with a rather sore bottom, the experience of dispensing with your application has given me an immeasurable sense of satisfaction.
Good riddance, Branson; there’s no room for your kind here!
Gloves (Capt.)
PS….Top marks for ingenuity BTW. Have followed instruction to the letter, and constructed my own simulator as you describe. Really works rather splendidly.
Anyone have Virign’s number handy?
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Personally I find Branson's posts very amusing - if you take the time to read them carefully! Sorry to hear you did not get through. It is my understanding that flight schools will still be going through applications into next week, so good luck to those who have not yet heard back.
Really? The last two pages have included a raft of dismissals from OAA and few acceptances. I've seen precious little information regarding either of the other two schools. There were one or two about 2 weeks ago but not many. If anything, i'd say OAA had finished and decided to dismiss those not required, and the other two schools were still in the process...