Jetstar Interview

[bigchief]

I have my Jetstar phone interview this week. Does anyone know what their looking for/asking in a 10 min interview?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

[denobillythekid]

i have no idea, but do keep me update because i have also applied in new zealand for the jetstar cadet programme.

regards

[27/09]

Why would you want to sign up for the Jetstar cadetship. It's modern day version of the Indian indentureship. Tread very carefully.

[built4flying83]

thats a good enough reason...... lol the training will be quite ridiculous for a lowtime pilot to absorb though.

[newcomer]

Phone interview for cadet program or direct entry? PM if its the direct entry

[clinty83]

Jetstar physc testing

Morning all

Hey has anyone been through the physc test part of the cadetship yet, the other thread has been closed because of all the little girls bitching and moaning about it

Thanks in advance

C83

[ARNTU]

Do you have an ATPL?....yes
are you willing to salary sacrifice $80K for an endo?...yes


Congrats,
youre in!

[27/09]

clinty, big chief, denobilly, et al

Take a look here and see what the likes of OAA ,CTC and european LCC's have done to the cadets in Europe. This Jetstar cadet scam is the start of the same c**p in this part of the world.

http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...n-academy.html

You have to ask yourself the question "Why is Jetstar promoting this scam?"

It's not that they cannot find pilots to employ, there is no shortage of pilots. They want to create a pool of cheap labour.

This cadetship is not the way to start your aviation career.

[Jonathan108]

Big Chief,

I have also been offered a phone interview.

I was told by Jetstar to expect firstly a review of my hours, Total, Multi Command, Turbine and Night. I guess to check I have the minimum requirements. Followed by a review of employment history. I expect that this could include not only the factual historical questions like "After this where did you work?" but also questions like, "Why did you take this job?", "Why did you leave this job?", "What did you like or dislike about this job?"

I was then told that the interviewer would tell me about the recruitment to employment process

First hand information from friends who have successfully navigated the process indicate the phone interview is a relaxed interview but they do tend to ask one or more formal questions like, Why do you want to work for Jetstar and (forgive me because I cant remember exactly how it was described to me) but a behavioural type question to do with working with and communicating with different people like we do on a daily basis-Flight Deck, Ops, Terminal/Ramp, Ground Handling, Engineering, Cabin Crew Etc you get the idea.

As has been posted already it is a serious part of the process and is the first chance for you to prove you will fit in, so my advice is be prepared.

Hope this helps

[mich79]

Hi All,

I have been selected for a Jetstar Interview in NZ later in the month. I applied for the Advanced Cadet Program. Has anybody been through this interview and can provide any pointers? What was the aptitude and numeracy testing like and group exercises? What is the best way to prepare for it? Can anybody recommend any books or online programs or anything to help prepare?

I'd be very grateful for any tips/hints and feed back.

Thanks v much.

[27/09]

Mich79

A couple of tips.......

You might care to look at here

http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...interview.html

and here

http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-a...hip-again.html

Good luck but be very very careful. The aviation world is not as portrayed by Jetstar, OAA and CTC.

[Blackbird14]

Has anyone received a call offering them a position in the ab-intio course or advanced cadetship?

SR71

[Alexander2g]

Hi Mich.

It is a pretty standard aptitude test. Practice on working out practical mathematical questions fast in a way that suits you. Most of the maths questions involve a scenario eg. Two planes fly from point A to point B at different speeds, they use this much fuel, what will be their difference in weight etc.

If you get through to the team exercises just be yourself, use judgement to be a pro-active member at the right times and know how to show your leadership potential.

As a successful applicant of the cadet-ship I can tell you that I did not prepare for the process and just applied my skills in the best way I could. I am not some sort of academic genius(they usually dont make good pilots ) I simply gave it everything I had and showed that I wanted it the most.

[Blackbird14]

Alexander2g,

Did you gain entry into the advanced or ab initio program?

SR71

[breakfastburrito]

Think very carefully. Jetstar pilot EBA dead. There is unlikely going to be any promotion in j* Australia. A period of time in Asia is in your future, followed by ever reducing terms & conditions to get back to Oz. Don't shoot the messenger.

[Alexander2g]

Ab-Intro Blackbird.

@Burrito, good thing I like asian food

[phoenix999]

Basic Maths, Tech knowledge, hand eye coordination, personality profiling..leadership potential, group work through the interview stage.......relatively basic stuff guys. get some books on phsycometric testing but to be fair it's about a million times easier than the Q cadetship interviews. forget cubes and shapes like the old boys did....and that was when they were able to cut the little cubes out of paper and make them up! not so easy now, you'd have to turn the computer screen upside down and then fold it 6 times!

dont be a hero in the group work. they want to see you can work as an efective "cog" in the team but step up to be the main "cog" when needed. If you try to railroad the exercise you'll be out quicker than a thread regarding the J cadetship!

my question is this....how and when do you get off the junior FO wage and onto the normal FO wage...I dont want to be paying off 150K on 50K a year with 7 kids!

[breakfastburrito]

Originally Posted by phoenix999

my question is this....how and when do you get off the junior FO wage and onto the normal FO wage...I dont want to be paying off 150K on 50K a year with 7 kids!

I will step through the appropriate legislation to show you how you will be a Junior FO (JFO)- all references will be from: CAR 1988, Vol 2.

Firstly, Upon completion of your CPL training you will have approximately 200 hours Aeronautical experience (of which approximately 100 will be command time). To become an "FO" as opposed to a "Junior FO" you are required to hold an ATPL.

To gain your ATPL you need 1500 hours aeronautical experience including 250 hour command time in addition to completing the required theory study. See CAR 5.172
When you operate as a line FO, you log Co-Pilot time. However, for the calculation of Aeronautical Experience, each hour flown as a Co-Pilot is halved, ie 50%.

Originally Posted by CAR 5.173

Aeronautical experience: calculation of flight time
...
(8) Each period of flight time flown by a person as a pilot, but not
flown:
(a) as pilot in command; or
(b) as pilot acting in command under supervision; or
(c) in dual flying;
must be halved in calculating the person’s flight time for the
purposes of regulation 5.172.

It is totally at the behest of the operator as to the ability to log "In Command Under Supervision" (ICUS)

Originally Posted by CAR 5.40

...
the operator of the aircraft permits the person to fly the aircraft as pilot acting in command under supervision; and

So, basically, there are three obstacles to gaining an ATPL. Firstly the 50% "discount" on Co-Pilot time. The second is the ability to gain the additional 150 command time (all of which may be ICUS). Thirdly, you need to complete the theory & exams. Are ATPL subjects included in the course?

If the operator doesn't permit you to log ICUS time, you will need to operate approximately 2600 stick hours in the aircraft to gain the required ATPL aeronautical experience. Further, you will need to go out and do the additional 150 command time on your own (think C152 private flying).

The operator in all likelihood will permit logging of ICUS time in special circumstances, ie with nominated check or line Captain's to allow you to gain your additional 150 hours command time. Remember, this is totally at the discretion of the operator & their policies in the Operations Manual.
The operator has a vested financial interest in minimising the amount of ICUS time you are authorised to log.

So therefore, most crew would fly somewhere between 700 & 900 stick hours per year, the required 2600 hours will take between 3 & 4 years with no ICUS logging.

If the operator you were permits you to log every sector you flew as Pilot flying(PF) you as ICUS, you will average approximately 75% credit for your hours (100% ICUS for PF, & 50% as PNF - Pilot Not Flying), this would require around 1730 hours in the aircraft.
This is of course dependant upon the operators policy regarding ICUS time.
This process can be shortened by doing private flying outside of work, giving you 100% credit for your hours, although this will get expensive.

So, in a nutshell, depending upon the operators ICUS policy & the amount of flying you actually achieve, you will be a JFO for somewhere between 2 & 4 years after completion of your line training.

[fatalbert1]

Has anyone from the ACP course who have been told they were successful received an email with any additional information yet?

[OZvandriver]

I personally have nothing against these cadetships. Having said that Im very happy flying in my present job and will not be applying to Jetstar or the like anytime soon.

Aviation is not like it used to be and a few people have a hard time accepting this. I think if you took all your energy that you spend whinging about Jetstar and put it into your own flying career you would be a lot less bitter.

Now I've got some flying to do...seeya!