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Old 10th Apr 2010, 20:27
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Which type rating?

Hello all PPRuNe'rs. This is my first post here but I've been hanging around for a few months now.

So my question isn't like so many other "Which TR to get?" question, becuse when searching the forums I found that almost every single one is a debate between the A320 or 737.

Now whith so many pilots on the street with a 737 or 320 rating, I was woundering if I where to get a TR, would I benefit from getting one on a regional plane such as a CRJ, Q400 etc. I can imagine there is less pilots out there with such a rating, so obviously the competition would be much less.

So, what do you guys think? Do like everyone else and get a rating on a 737 or 320, or get one on one of the planes mentioned above.

Please don't come here and talk about the wrongs in paying for your own TR, thank you!

And also I'd like to apologise for any wrongs in my English, I'm not a native speaker!

Thank you!
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Old 10th Apr 2010, 21:32
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I did my rating on the A320 in August 2007, got a job after about 8 months. And have been flying since (now also in sweden).

When looking at the TP market, I would go for the ATR 42/72, there are a lot of orders and there are a lot of aircraft flying... There is a new company starting up operations in norway with ATR.

The bad thing is that such a rating is almost the same price as an A320 or 737...
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Don't go for any, unless you can find an employer who is willing to pay for it. The industry is bad enough the way it is now.
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A380

There can't be too much low time competition from other rich guys on the A380?
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Perhaps you might consider a Biz Jet rating in order to build some hours until the commercial world recovers.

Perhaps a Gulfstream 550 or Global Express rating might be a start point?

These Biz Jets are quite complex and even have glass cockpits.
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 19:57
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Yes, that might be an option.

How does the job market look in these planes then?
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Old 11th Apr 2010, 20:20
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Forget it.

The bizjet world is still in a bit of pain and a low timer with a G550 or GLEX rating will be next to useless.
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Q400

The UK’s sole operator does not expect inexperienced pilots (or anyone in fact) to pay for their own type rating. It’s done as part of the initial company induction and training, and the only ‘cost’ to the pilot is a liability to repay part of the bond if he leaves within 3 years. A rare thing these days, so please don’t give our management ideas.

A Dash type rating on your licence would only assist in your desire to jump the queue if; (a) it came with significant hours (i.e. 500+) on type, and; (b) we were recruiting - and we’re not.

You would be wasting your money.
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Dreamer,

What are you flying now dreamer? Competition is tough. If you are not flying consider getting into entry level jobs that do not require a type rating. I can't speak for Euro/Asia carriers but in the US a type in a 737 gets you an interview at SWA. That's it. Most operators are going to pay you (what a concept) to get your type rating.

I have five type-ratings and I didn't pay for any. One type helped me get a job with all the experience I had in it.

Instead of trying to get a leg up "buying" your way up, get out there on the ground floor and work for it. That may sound harsh. Coming from an ex-regional recruiter in the US, I would much rather hire someone with a strong work ethic and experience in flying airplanes.

To others: Am I off base? Do most buy type ratings for Euro/Asia entry level jobs?
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I guess the general consensus is:

Only get a type rating if you have a firm job offer in the other end.
Otherwise you're just playing the lottery. Especially in these times
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The guy hasn't asked whether he should pay for a rating or not - just an opinion on which rating he should do.

Look at the operators in the area you want to work and the types they operate, then target that market. I know ryanair aren't particularly popular, but it is a start and an opertunity at command within a few years. ( I don't work there by the way! )

If I was doing it again think I'd go for ATR 42/72 or Embraer 145/195. Failing that 787!!!
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fact is, most planes out there are A320 or B737, and future models of these makes, will be based on them.
it's all about demand and offer.
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Don't do it!
Which? none!
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Waiting it out....

Hi all.

Thanks for all of your responses!
So it looks like I'm gonna have to wait it out, until I can find someone who is willing to pay for my rating!

Thanks, -Dreamer!
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It looks as though Dreamer has got his answer - eventually!


Before the pack of P2F and opponents sink their teeth into this I'm closing the thread!

Dreamer if you need anymore then I'm happy to re-open it if you PM me.

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