Is it worth to invest in type rating?
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Is it worth to invest in type rating?
Maybe the hardest thing for young pilot like me with JAA CPL ME/IR, ATPL frozen and 300hrs piston total time with some 20 hrs on multi is to find any job on JET aircrafts.
So I'm thinking..would it be worth to invest in type rating on some Cessna Citation and hoping to find job maybe easier than without any type?
On the other side, who would hire me with 300 hrs of total time with type rating and no further experience on it...
Is it worth to try it ??
So I'm thinking..would it be worth to invest in type rating on some Cessna Citation and hoping to find job maybe easier than without any type?
On the other side, who would hire me with 300 hrs of total time with type rating and no further experience on it...
Is it worth to try it ??
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It is not worth it, and noone will hire you! The time for 250hr newbies to go straight onto jet aircraft (and earn a proper wage) has ceased for the time being. Sorry to be negative, but you need to get a grip with what is happening with the job market at the moment.
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Agreed; NO!
It can never be called an investment when it comes to forking up cash in order to be somewhat employed. This malpractise continues to keep T&Cs deteriorating and should, in fact, be banned by law. Do your wallet, and your fellow aviators, a bi favor. Don`t do it. Also, read the thread about Airbus saying that pilot handling skills are coming to an alltime low. Again, do yourself a huge favor and do your time through the ranks. You might just learn a lot about flying that way
It can never be called an investment when it comes to forking up cash in order to be somewhat employed. This malpractise continues to keep T&Cs deteriorating and should, in fact, be banned by law. Do your wallet, and your fellow aviators, a bi favor. Don`t do it. Also, read the thread about Airbus saying that pilot handling skills are coming to an alltime low. Again, do yourself a huge favor and do your time through the ranks. You might just learn a lot about flying that way
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Right now, if I were in your shoes, I'd probably go for an FI rating in order to keep current and flying aircraft. Job's are so scarce and getting into the bizjet market is hard enough in the good times. Good luck whichever way you decide.
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Man up. Go to Africa, get a job by showing how keen you are. Impress with your skills as a pilot once you have that job. Earn respect by operating safely and efficiently. Get some experience and work your way up the ladder. Thats how we did it in the old days.
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Those days are gone. Jet operators hire low houred cadets now with the finance for their own type ratings. That's if they hire anybody at all. They have no interest in 1500 hour turboprop pilots from harsh environments, because there is no money in them. I'm not saying it's right, that's just the way it is. I wish I could see it changing because I appear to have shot myself in the foot gaining experience that no one wants.
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Sorry mate but I think if you do that you'll find yourself tens of thousands of £ down, still unable to find employment and now restricted to only one aircraft type. Only pay for a type rating if you have a dead cert guaranteed job at the end of it. If you take a punt on a SSTR hoping that a job will appear at the end of it, I think you'll almost certainly lose your bet. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the employment market is dead right now. Its brutal out there.
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Your right hammer. I used to get bitter about it, but I think I have just accepted it now. There will always be someone out there that can come in with £50 000 to burn and able to not earn for a year. I have always been anti paying for a type rating but facts are facts. There are guys sitting on a couch now with 0 hours that will be captains on a320s earning big bucks in 5 years, I will still be flying some busted @rse plane sticking to my guns.
I was just messing with my last post. My answer to the chap asking the question is this; Paying for a type rating is lick gambling, play only what you can afford to lose. If you can afford to just throw the money away, do it, do it now. If you are going to gamble your family home just to do it, dont do it. If your rich, go to eaglejet. Pay £50 000 to do a TR on the A320 and 500 hours line flying. I see on another thread that guys are having to wait for up to 4 months for the line flying part. If your stupidly rich......try out bidding them....offer eaglejet another £10 000 to jump the que. If they say nup try offering them £20 000. I am telling you, the way the industry is going, this is not an unrealistic scenario in the very near future.
I was just messing with my last post. My answer to the chap asking the question is this; Paying for a type rating is lick gambling, play only what you can afford to lose. If you can afford to just throw the money away, do it, do it now. If you are going to gamble your family home just to do it, dont do it. If your rich, go to eaglejet. Pay £50 000 to do a TR on the A320 and 500 hours line flying. I see on another thread that guys are having to wait for up to 4 months for the line flying part. If your stupidly rich......try out bidding them....offer eaglejet another £10 000 to jump the que. If they say nup try offering them £20 000. I am telling you, the way the industry is going, this is not an unrealistic scenario in the very near future.
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No especially not a biz jet rating. Lots of type rated pilots on the market and a lot of companies will want you to pay them for the rating so they can take a cut.
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i know a friend of a friend that has the odd work going for a company at the moment for a Cessna Citation aircraft.
one problem tho, is they want 1000 hrs (which they can get) 500 hours on type, and at the moment captains a working for free and there co-pilots are paying them to be in the right hand seat..
which = keeping current for us guys, but paying for it!!!
its up to you if you want a rating.
just remember if you get a type rating you will narrow down the
companies who you can work for only.
also there are lots of netjets pilots and others who have had flying hours cut back this year. i know of a small number working as instructors at the moment.. due to the lack of flying!!!
i am in the same position like yourself. throwing money at aviation may not solve the problem and you could be renewing your type rating and ir rating sooner than you think... which is more cost to spend!!!
one problem tho, is they want 1000 hrs (which they can get) 500 hours on type, and at the moment captains a working for free and there co-pilots are paying them to be in the right hand seat..
which = keeping current for us guys, but paying for it!!!
its up to you if you want a rating.
just remember if you get a type rating you will narrow down the
companies who you can work for only.
also there are lots of netjets pilots and others who have had flying hours cut back this year. i know of a small number working as instructors at the moment.. due to the lack of flying!!!
i am in the same position like yourself. throwing money at aviation may not solve the problem and you could be renewing your type rating and ir rating sooner than you think... which is more cost to spend!!!
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haven't read the previous posts, being lazy i suppose!
A friend of mine asked me to approach the head of training for the Airline I am working for to ask the the very same question. The reply was a very definite No.
The type rating is no real use unless you have Line training hours and a line check. His advice was to save your money and go fly a twin to keep your flying skills current.
Short and sweet, but from a man who has 49 aircraft both Airbus and Boeing under his umbrella and who I'd like to think being head of training and recruitment, knows what he is talking about.
A friend of mine asked me to approach the head of training for the Airline I am working for to ask the the very same question. The reply was a very definite No.
The type rating is no real use unless you have Line training hours and a line check. His advice was to save your money and go fly a twin to keep your flying skills current.
Short and sweet, but from a man who has 49 aircraft both Airbus and Boeing under his umbrella and who I'd like to think being head of training and recruitment, knows what he is talking about.
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Rather than doing a Type Rating only what about a "first officer time building program" such as offered by Eaglejet? Maybe build up hours on a smaller turbine (Beech 1900 etc)? Who has done it and can share experience?
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Certainly don't go near a 737 rating. They are not worth the paper they are written on at the moment. There must be hundreds of out of work 737 drivers ( Especially FO's) for any job that comes up.