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Are Ryanair still taking on FOs?

Old 9th Jul 2009, 21:33
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Are Ryanair still taking on FOs?

I submitted my details to CAE a few months back and have heard nothing, not even an email acknowledging the fact that I completed the form. Is there still anything happening? I am not really a newbie as I already have 4000 + hours.
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 21:45
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They'll be checking your bank balance and credit rating
Old 9th Jul 2009, 22:20
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AFAIK, yes they are. But they have become increasingly critical on who they invite to the interview. Also, enlisting via the website puts you in a database. Every once in a while they pull out a list of valid candidates that have filled everything in correctly and conform to certain specifications. If you're not on top of that list, for whatever reason, they don't see your information. Hence you're never contacted. And the database of applicants is HUGE.
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Old 9th Jul 2009, 22:41
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Hi boundarylayer99, djanello is correct with what he said! Unfortunately though with 4000+ hours as an FO, RYR won't be interested in you at all. At the moment they are only taking on either DEC's or inexperienced cadets and recruitment for both has slowed down considerably as of late.
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Old 10th Jul 2009, 19:58
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As far as i am aware, the guys on the july type are the last this year, all others were called today and told that the other courses were cancelled until next april/may. It seems not even Ryanair are recession proof
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Old 10th Jul 2009, 22:03
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Well I passed assessment in May and haven't received a call. Hopefully I won't! Would be interested to see if anyone has been called though?

I would be surprised though, new aircraft are being delivered regularly, they have ambitious growth plans and new bases planned. Stopping T/R courses would halt all that.
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Old 10th Jul 2009, 22:42
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Stelios 1984, you wouldn't have got a call today if you haven't been given a official start date yet, if what burl says is incorrect your still probably looking at February next at least! A few friends of mine passed assessment late March early April and have all been given provisional dates in January. Theres a massive waiting list for TR's at the moment especially with them no longer using Stockholm!

I'm very interested to here if what burl has said is true, but to be honest I wouldn't be at all surprised. Expansion has not been like predicted at all this year and know with possible base closures in the UK things aren't looking great. Like what burl said "not even Ryanair are recession proof"
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Old 10th Jul 2009, 23:14
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I have a confirmed start date in oct, haven't heard anything yet....
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 00:27
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100% accurate that they have called people today that were due to do there type rating in October and november have been told that they have been canceled until april next year. Also was told that they may have to( but hasnt been decided yet) do the sim check over again because the cadets will have been so long out of flying.
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 06:14
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Sim checks again!

That'll be another 250 then?
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 09:18
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My november type rating (october induction) at EMT has been postponed by 1 week so I am lucky. I know 2 guys who were starting in november have had theirs cancelled/long term postponed but not sure what their dates and training centre were.
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 21:44
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Burl I think is a very irresponsible post! there are people waiting to do type ratings who may not have been contacted and for you to come out with that sort of post before people know is the lowest of the low.
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 22:15
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To the TheGlide, i was one off the lucky ones and have only recently completed my type, tho was made aware yesterday others havent been so lucky. This is a thread by its own name "Are Ryanair still taking on FO's" and the answer seems to be, no they are not, the next influx will be next year, recession permitting is suppose. The lowest of the low, i dont think so sunshine...informative, yes.
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Old 11th Jul 2009, 22:41
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The glide,

bit confused. Surely it is better to let cadets know ASAP rather than sit there fat dumb and happy?

I'd rather get the info from FR themselves, but they don't care. burl is at least giving people a heads up.

the lowest of the low
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 08:20
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Anybody to back up/oppose what Burl has said?

Anybody directly affected by this who has received a call willing to shed a bit more light? It all seems a little bit of speculative conjecture at present with conflicting stories being posted.

I've also seen something on PPJN that could be relating to this...
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 08:40
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no job security as your a contractor, airline has announced serious losses, more aircraft arriving that ideally they want to stop, airline run by a guy with no respect for our profession, seriously dodgy tactics being employed by the airline to stop you flying once you get some hours under your belt, unpaid leave forced on you,masses of hiring going on...why,is it because they make money on type rating......and all this for 35k euro.anyone else think this may not be such a wonderful idea
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 09:46
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Guys, I was in your position a few years ago.
From the chat in the crew rooms right now, FR have stopped recruitment until November time as this year we have already taken on 220 cadets, a little less than last year for obvious reasons. However there are a few internal issues going on right now which need to be solved first - which im sure some of you on here can guess!!

Also one final point, DO NOT believe everything you read on here, blackred1443's post is a prime example. Id be happy to dissect his post to ruins if you have any questions....!
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 09:47
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blackred1443, you are wasting your time mate, these idiots will not take any advice that hints at NOT joining Ryan...
They believe that this outfit is some magic institution that pays well when charging them for everything from water on board to parking their cars, that not providing them with insurance or a pension is sensible when they are 'self' employed, that paying over the odds for a type rating is ok when they have to pay for 'selection'

The mind boggles

CommandB, would you be happy to shoot down the latest rumour that they are now going to charge for command assessments? What numpty would pay to be assessed for a command? Surely that would be a sign that your unfit for command in any descent organisation!
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 10:06
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MVE, I will certainly answer your question sir.
Ryanair have stated that due to ongoing issues internally they are CONSIDERING applying a fee for your command upgrade. This has not been introduced so dont get confused. This is NOT happening yet and is probably a tactic regarding the ongoing recognition issues. However I do know that in the UK currently all CU have ceased while the issue of recognition is ongoing.
MVE I do not wish to argue with you and I hope I have answered your question. By taking the aggressive tone in your previous post regarding calling FR pilots/cadets "idiots" just makes you look bad. Why resort to immature name calling when they have done nothing to you...?! I suggest if you have nothing better to do than call people names then dont post.

Oh by the way - we dont pay for our water on board!
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Old 14th Jul 2009, 10:33
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CommandB point taken on the water issue, so Ryanair at least go some way to taking responsibility for the duty of care they are required to show you by EU employement law then ;-)

How about sick pay? can any contract pilot expect sick pay?
Life or license insurance?
Medical insurance (how about for their families?)?
Choice of holiday time?
Any conmplaints procedure if you think you are treated unfairly?

Perhaps calling the WANNABIES that are interested in joining your outfit idiots is a bit harsh when I should have said naive? inexperienced? desperate? blinkered?

I'm not interested in an argument either but perhaps what is needed is a more reasoned response from the likes of yourself also.

What frustrates me about the Ryanair t's and c's nonsense is that wannabees seem to think Ryan is some kind of magic airline that can pay well while given you zero extras that the rest of us get as standard. Admitedlly recently it comes down to the fact that they are the only airline recruiting (or were) but why is that? Anything to do with the fact that 'cadets' are grossly underpaid during training? That they overcharge for a TR to make more money out of you/them? That they can change t's and c's on a whim and there is sod all you can do about it? How about forcing unpaid leave? What am I saying there is no 'paid' leave for contractors?

And the final question....Is the Brookfield contract even legal? what other airline do you work for as a brookfield contract pilot? if the answer is no other then you are not self employed and therefore claiming lower tax liabilities illegally....so no argument, how about just straight forward honesty so the wannabies reading this thread might see more than ' they are the only ones recruiting'
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