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Old 23rd May 2009, 17:34
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Sponsorship Programme

Hi there,

I am 15 and looking to pursue the flying career when I finish school. I have been looking on the internet for sponsorship programmes, but have not had much success. Can anyone point me in the right direction, maybe a website I can visit.

Thanks much apprciated
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Old 23rd May 2009, 17:58
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I think we are in a time where you have to sponsor yourself with no guaranty of employment ...time for sponsorship is over.
Still try the airforce in your country!
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Old 28th May 2009, 19:18
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hi m8,
What Batman said is true, not only that but you are in a huge pool full of hundreds of thousands of other people in the same position who will do anything for the very few sponsorships there are.
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@CaptainKing,

I see you're from RSA..why dont you check with South African, they operate a scheme only for SA citizens..then, there's going to be other airlines such as Etihad, who are looking for rapid expansion in the next few years.

I also noted your age. For now, work hard to achieve the necessary grades, because most airlines that do have a sponsored cadet programme require high caliber students, many requiring an A in Maths and English, and a minimum of a B in physics. (try looking up the site for Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines, Kenya Airways, South African Airways, Etihad etc for requirements into the cadet programmes)

Most airlines look for qualified citizens aged 18+, but keep looking, as these change from time to time. Cathay Pacific, for example, also requires a dimploma or a degree for you to be considered.

Hope this has helped, and all the best with your flying dreams!
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At the moment finding £70K for a intergrated course to gain a frozen ATPL licence can be very hard to get hold of. Plus you have the two years of living cost which add up as well. And on top of that you may have to find extra money for a type rating as well.
very hard.
but you do have the option of doing a modular course to gain a Frozen ATPL licence. doing bit by bit to help save on the cost. I ended up doing it this way.
its very costly and at the moment i have a frozen ATPL licence and a year on i havn't got an airline job or bussiness jet job. Its alot of money and you have to be 100% feet in. theres no going back after doing your CPL licence.
i am sure what ever anyone says your still do a Frozen ATPL course even if the job market is very very low.

as your 15 years old. one idea is to do what i did, when i wanted to become a pilot. that is to join the air cadets and get some free flying hours, which you can log in your flying log book. it will save you money when you come to do your PPL private pilot licence course. its now costly to fly per hour with aviation fuel.
or why not start to go gilder flying. again another idea which you can still log the flight time. plus also you can go solo at 16 years old. its a cheaper idea because there is no aviation fuel. this is to start with. or with your money you could go onto the AFE website and buy the 6 PPL books which are £20 each and start reading up on what you will need to know.
hope this helps
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New Gal

I am looking into begining a career in the air - long family history of it.
Anyway I am currently putting together a proposal for sposorship - I would most likely do this in either Africa or the US.

I have researched a number of different flight schools but would liek to know what the pilots think. Advice is more than welcome on all fronts


look forward to replies
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Old 1st Jul 2009, 19:04
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Cheers for the input guys,

However I have already started flying (11 Hours) I'll be able to go solo next year, 16 years old (legal age), and hopefully the following year I'll have my PPL, I want to start studying as soon as possible.
Getting to the my PPL I don't think is going to be a problem, but the big jump to CPL and then on to ATPL costs cash.
I have heard conflicting conversations about the airforce, which may have to be a route. Also I think SAA cadet programs are looking for previously disadvantaged. I'll try that door though. There is also a program called TETA which hopefully I can get into.

Ant further advice/comments much appreciated
Cheers
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Anyway I am currently putting together a proposal for sposorship - I would most likely do this in either Africa or the US.
Good luck with that. You won't find many takers. Why would anyone want to sponsor when their files are full of people who already paid for their training themselves? By all means explore that avenue. But your best bet is to find the money yourself.

Sponsorship is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. I suspect the last few will disappear sooner or later. The only remaining sponsorships.will be those offered by countries who wish to favour their own people and reduce the numbers of foreign pilots flying for them. Even then that will fade as in effect most pilots come from a middle class background in most countries and as a rule they have some money to pay for their kids to become pilots. Much as anyone trains to be Doctor or whatever.
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Cheers for the advice mate,

However isn't AFE for the British System, and therefore of no help for me in South Africa. I have heard highly of the PPL Confuser and will look at it.

Cheers
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well, in the past i heard in africa you can get a ppl licence in a pub without doing any flying !!! be careful about that...
hope thats its a very good school, standards are the key to aviation in the u.k get it wrong in the ppl level it will cost you later on doing your cpl and even getting a pilot jobs.
people, such as myself and others do not do there flight training in the u.k with the big flight training schools for nothing. we do it for the very high standards, so the airliners know we are good pilots, thats why we will pay that extra cost.

information and skills is the key to get a pilot jobs.
thats why oxford, cabair, ctc in the u.k the big flying school have a skills test before you start flying.

also all the AFE books are fine if you are doing a JAA ppl. if not doing a JAA PPL, why? becuase you could not fly in the u.k.

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Old 3rd Jul 2009, 08:58
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Howzit,

The flight school I'm flying with, I'm pretty sure has a good reputation, having trained tonnes of students of the years. One of the instructors there is a training captain at SAA and we are pretty friendly with him, so that does help, I suppose.

The reason I'm not doing my license in the UK is that I'm only 15 years old and don't have the luxury of choice at the moment.

Cheers.
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Well I don't want offend or critisize any SAA pilots here, but the airline has a long history regarding transportation of drugs (you can find it doing a search here). Anyway one option of sponsorship for cadets would be the "cathay pacific CPP" scheme, it takes you from nothing to a boeing 744 pilot, all paid for, though your going to have to sign a very long contract, but hey who cares, you are high paid, and flying a big jet long haul. The other option would be to join Air atlantic, they have a sponsorship program with multi-flight, though you need a PPL before you start applying for that place. Both of these sponsorship programs are very competitive, many people try to apply to them, but I guess its worth a try, you never know.

Best of luck
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Old 4th Jul 2009, 11:44
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fhs300,

You forgot to mention few things...
-you get to wear a uniform at school
-you will be brain washed free of charge by their marketing department
-you will have to spend +80k (integrated) WITHOUT job guarantee
-you might have to come up with another +30k for type raiting
-you will probably have to pay back your loan for another 10-15 years (if you can get one)
-you will be very proud to be BIG FTO graduate, but once online you will realize that people dont give a $hit where you done your training, and at some point (if your head finally going to come out of your a$$) you will realize that at least 95% of your colleagues finished their training with other/smaller schools (to the "superior" one that you mentioned) to get the same job, same salary and same benefits

Anybody has a right to spend as much as they WISH/CAN on their training, but trying to tell some kid that "you and others" will be the best pilots and others probably wont its just plain stupid.
Aviation sector is not limited just to UK and their BIG FTOs.
The licence will be THE SAME because you will have to pass THE same exams/check rides, to THE SAME standards.
Next time RTFQ before you post, as he probably wouldnt be asking for airline sponsorship if he was to have spare 100k.


CaptainKing,

I would advise you to get your PPL first and wait till you turn 18 to see how things are going to look like in aviation market.
When it comes to sponsorship its going to be very hard to find one.
SE Asian airlines such as Cathay and Singapore ask for Nationals or at least legal residents (correct me if Im wrong).
ME airlines look for Nationals as well, the only exeption was Etihad but they stopped (they still have one ot two assessments this year, but they alredy announced that there will bo no more this year) their cadet programee for foreigners and nobody knows if its going to reopen ever again.
Dont think about it so much right now as nobody knows what future holds.
Get good grades at school, enjoy your teenage life, get you PPL for now and DONT be in rush anywhere as you are very young.

Good Luck.
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