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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 21:03
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Try the Thomas Cook vacancy website.

They are looking for Type Rated A320 and B75/76 pilots.

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 21:12
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I would never call anyone who has payed for a TR/line training a fellow pilot. they are pay-to-fly wanabe's.
What about the self sponsored 'cadets' who pay an extra 20+ grand to give themselves the edge by going integrated? Would you call them fellow pilots?
Not to mention if you go through CTC you have to work for nothing for six months, suppose that doesn't count?

Personally I think paying for line training is disgraceful.
But I can't see much difference between paying for a type rating and paying the extra money to go to Oxford/CTC etc either.

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 22:48
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I would never call anyone who has payed for a TR/line training a fellow pilot. they are pay-to-fly wanabe's.
That accounts for 90% of easyJet & ryanair then...

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 23:14
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No one employed by easyjet paid for line training. The few that did recently were shown the door once their 150hrs of fun was over. So I don't know where you get all this 90% stuff from. A large number of ezy pilots paid for their initial TR though, that cannot be disputed. Although I got a B737 rating on joining and an A320 rating 12 months later, I think it was buy one get one free that year

Anyone who goes through CTC effectively pays for their jet rating with absolutely no guarantee of a job. I'm not criticising anyone who does this, paying for a TR is becoming common practise. Paying for line training is a crock of and is the next big threat to industry T&Cs.

Good luck Narwhal, to be blunt with 300hrs I can't think of anywhere, certainly not within Europe.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 23:31
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Rated people go through.

Hey guys.We should help each other and not argue between us.
I know people with just a type rating and low flying piston hours that got jobs. They had contacts and they knew they would get a job sooner or later.
Is it about knowing people in key positions?
Unfortunately i dont have an aviation background,a captain father or a person in a high position to help me as many people have.
For those saying that you cant get a job with low hours Aer Lingus is a good example.Unfortunately i heard about it a bit late.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 23:42
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 09:53
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SW1 I posted that information yesterday see post 21. Unfortunately as usual with this Forum people are so busy arguing the toss about rubbish that they ignore the useful information.

Guys although I don't agree with paying for a TR, I do realise that sometimes to get on in life it takes a gamble or two. So why don't you all stop bitching and combine your efforts into helping each other.

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Old 4th Feb 2009, 10:25
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Did you guys see the minimum requirements??

Minimum requirements:

- Valid A320 / B757 type rating and in recent flying experience
- 1000 hours total time.
- >500 hours on A320/1 or B75/767
- Valid JAR ATPL Licence
- Valid JAR Medical
- Right to live and work in the UK

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Old 4th Feb 2009, 10:32
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Yes I did but the thread is A320 Vacancies. This is an A320 job so fits the criteria.
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 11:29
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Not when the opening poster has 300 hrs.
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 11:41
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Yes but it's not just the opening poster who will look at the thread. Besides worth a try even if you don't exactly fit the criteria. A320 Vacancies is A320 Vacancies if the thread was titled A320 Vacancies with NO hrs on type I wouldn't have posted.

Get the picture?
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 12:31
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From Untitled Document, it says TCX pay 2.58£ per hour is that block hours or duty hours? What would be the average amount of hours during the summer season?

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Old 4th Feb 2009, 18:36
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Minimum requirements:

- Valid A320 / B757 type rating and in recent flying experience
- 1000 hours total time.
- >500 hours on A320/1 or B75/767
- Valid JAR ATPL Licence
- Valid JAR Medical
- Right to live and work in the UK


Guys, if I have all of this except the last one, do I have any chance?
What do u think?
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Old 4th Feb 2009, 18:44
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No chance, sorry
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Old 20th Feb 2009, 15:27
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Just a bit of trivia from the States.......

Southwest Airlines has required a type rating "in hand" prior to any hiring for as long as they have been in operation. The only relief they gave anyone was that they could interview if not in hand but it must be completed prior to hiring. In other words you buy it!

No one has ever called them on it before but they are, and always have been the biggest pay for training operation anywhere!

There are countless pilots who bought the 737 type only to be left at the alter by SWA. (no not me)

The rules have all changed today. Every company is looking to leverage the jobs by having the pilots subsidize the taining program by coming in typed and current.
Watch the job boards as the placement services keep quoting "New Terms" to try and entice pilots to jump ship to go to another operator. We are a commodity and those companies only want their fees!

New world out there.
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 19:05
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anybody heard back from thomas cook?
ive an interview next week
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 11:13
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Type Rating

I think it is absolutely ridiculous for anybody to critisize somebody for going out and getting a type rating. Like any profession (Doctor, Lawyer, Businessman etc) school and degrees are required to reach their objective in life. Those who critized only do so because they don't have the money, or are not willing to invest in their career. Everybody has a different situation. I can see, however, how people would dislike the FO programs where people pay to work. That is completely different, now you are just paying to be a pilot, rather then paying to become a pilot.

Furthermore, If you pay for your own training, you are not obligated to any training contract (or a much smaller training contract), and therefore have the abilitiy to leave and look for other positions should the airline start going in the wrong direction. The 13-15,000 USD that is invested is easily recouped after a few months at a good airline.

I would think this forum is to help and gather advice from our fellow aviators, not to put people down for investing in their own future. Just my two cents.

+ Rate, Gear up!

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Old 26th Feb 2009, 11:34
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I could not agree more with you CaptWUFF!!
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