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The point wasn't that there is something wrong with you CV. You shouldn't commence flight training in the first place if you think you're gonna stay in the Netherlands. My point was that it's not impossible to get a job - it's just a matter of flexibility.
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Give me the name of a GA company that will hire me with having only 250hrs, anywhere in the world where I can get a job with my JAA CPL, and then give it to the other 1000's waiting for a job. The GA isnt an option for everyone and you should know better, do you really think that all the FTO's with their thousands of students look at the jobs availeble in GA and corperate and jet world? Dont think so, for many there is no job atm, whatever you say. For me, im lucky at the moment to get 30hrs SE and 10 ME a month, but no way that everyone can get that job
Give me the name of a GA company that will hire me with having only 250hrs, anywhere in the world where I can get a job with my JAA CPL, and then give it to the other 1000's waiting for a job. The GA isnt an option for everyone and you should know better, do you really think that all the FTO's with their thousands of students look at the jobs availeble in GA and corperate and jet world? Dont think so, for many there is no job atm, whatever you say. For me, im lucky at the moment to get 30hrs SE and 10 ME a month, but no way that everyone can get that job
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sekmeth is right, nothing is wrong with your CV, you are just not alone in this market and your license doesn't grand you a job.
You all think when you come out of school, you become a flying God and airlines will call you! wrong!
Behind you there are thousand of pilots pushing the doors, and everyday there are more and nore pilots asking to pay airlines for a miserbale work.
There are so many pilots all around the world (hundred of thousand,yes) looking that even foreign countries have increase their minimum for a work permit.
Just look at the reality, aviation is not a career anymore. Most EU airlines who have the 320, want you to start with their program, which is P2F. They will never hire you. What they want is to get rid of their pilots and hire cheap pilots on a per hour rata.
We live in a very low cost mentality where even paying crews is a problem, even giving them a sandwich can bring an airline on its knees.
Soon everybody who want work in an airline will have to pay.Unemployment rate in europe will stagne, have you heared about stagnflation. Give a look.
About GA, yes I can find you a job tomorrow, in the midlle of Africa, pay peanuts with monkeys , and sleep under your wing with muskitos.
After 1-2 years, you come back to Europe (for your career, ahah)with 1500h of SEP which worth nothing here , and then what next? P2F?is that the futur? yes it is.
now come back to me with the "yeah, there are job out there" so we can have a good laugh!
be happy to be unemployed! at least you have a nice blue license that you can show to friends, mom and dad!
You all think when you come out of school, you become a flying God and airlines will call you! wrong!
Behind you there are thousand of pilots pushing the doors, and everyday there are more and nore pilots asking to pay airlines for a miserbale work.
There are so many pilots all around the world (hundred of thousand,yes) looking that even foreign countries have increase their minimum for a work permit.
Just look at the reality, aviation is not a career anymore. Most EU airlines who have the 320, want you to start with their program, which is P2F. They will never hire you. What they want is to get rid of their pilots and hire cheap pilots on a per hour rata.
We live in a very low cost mentality where even paying crews is a problem, even giving them a sandwich can bring an airline on its knees.
Soon everybody who want work in an airline will have to pay.Unemployment rate in europe will stagne, have you heared about stagnflation. Give a look.
About GA, yes I can find you a job tomorrow, in the midlle of Africa, pay peanuts with monkeys , and sleep under your wing with muskitos.
After 1-2 years, you come back to Europe (for your career, ahah)with 1500h of SEP which worth nothing here , and then what next? P2F?is that the futur? yes it is.
now come back to me with the "yeah, there are job out there" so we can have a good laugh!
be happy to be unemployed! at least you have a nice blue license that you can show to friends, mom and dad!
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The common sentiment in a lot of these posts that I have noticed is summed up well by sekmeth:
Maybe the problem is that despite you knowing this fact, you decided to go through flying training, not only that but to go through flying training without a job offer at the end, in the midst of one of, if the the, biggest global financial crises in history?
It seems to be a surprise to people who post on this thread that it's so difficult to get a job - did you not have enough warning that this would be the case before you spent very substantial amounts of cash on training?!
Give me the name of a GA company that will hire me with having only 250hrs, anywhere in the world where I can get a job with my JAA CPL, and then give it to the other 1000's waiting for a job.
It seems to be a surprise to people who post on this thread that it's so difficult to get a job - did you not have enough warning that this would be the case before you spent very substantial amounts of cash on training?!
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I tried to call JetDirect through the number on their contact page a few days ago, but got the message the number was temporary disconnected. I think it is a scam... 
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forget about a flying job!, I can tell you, nobody want hire commercial pilots with no hours on type or with expired license.
why dont you look for a girlfriend(make babies, have a life), and wait 2-3 years to see if the market improved or not.
my advice: do something else or you will all become bitter.!
why dont you look for a girlfriend(make babies, have a life), and wait 2-3 years to see if the market improved or not.
my advice: do something else or you will all become bitter.!
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Guys,
P2F became an option in the Commercial aviation industry but it is not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is always build up your experience step by step.
You Fly a single engine then you fly a multi engine than you fly a Turbo prop and finally you get hired by a Major Airline.
The Path has changed and all we see now is low time pilots paying their own type rating and line training in order to find themselves a Job. This is a dangerous thing if you do not know what to do. But i will list few things you have to know before applying for a line training scheme.
1. Is the agency offering line training able to provide you the Airline contacts or they are hiding the name until you give them huge amount of money ?
2. Is the Line training broker able to be transparent with you and offer you the possibility for you to pay the Airline Directly ? or they want hige amount of money up front ?
3. Do you know where you are going ? airline name ? country ?and etc or you are dealing in the dark until you pay ?
4. Do you have proofs from the Airline if the line Training broker is in alliance with them ? or you do not even know where you are going ?
If yes Go ahead with them and Ask the Line training Broker to pay your training to the Airline directly to avoid any kind of financial problems.
If not , please stay away from the agency it may be trying to sell something insolvent to you.
Good Luck to all ....
P2F became an option in the Commercial aviation industry but it is not the right thing to do. The right thing to do is always build up your experience step by step.
You Fly a single engine then you fly a multi engine than you fly a Turbo prop and finally you get hired by a Major Airline.
The Path has changed and all we see now is low time pilots paying their own type rating and line training in order to find themselves a Job. This is a dangerous thing if you do not know what to do. But i will list few things you have to know before applying for a line training scheme.
1. Is the agency offering line training able to provide you the Airline contacts or they are hiding the name until you give them huge amount of money ?
2. Is the Line training broker able to be transparent with you and offer you the possibility for you to pay the Airline Directly ? or they want hige amount of money up front ?
3. Do you know where you are going ? airline name ? country ?and etc or you are dealing in the dark until you pay ?
4. Do you have proofs from the Airline if the line Training broker is in alliance with them ? or you do not even know where you are going ?
If yes Go ahead with them and Ask the Line training Broker to pay your training to the Airline directly to avoid any kind of financial problems.
If not , please stay away from the agency it may be trying to sell something insolvent to you.
Good Luck to all ....
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sorry - but this industry must be full of Idiots 
This thread is 4 years long!!
It is this simple:
DON'T PAY TYPE RATINGS
DON'T PAY LINE TRAINING
the managementguy that invented this in the first place must be laughing his ass off!!
I can accept bondings and lower pay during training, the rest is bull****!!
And for you that tell me that you get a step ahead and your lifetime salary will be better - get real!! If this continues, there will be no jobs left in the real airlines!!
and yes, the first job is hard to get - I waited years, so I know the game - and its not funny!
best luck to all that work for money
This thread is 4 years long!!
It is this simple:
DON'T PAY TYPE RATINGS
DON'T PAY LINE TRAINING
the managementguy that invented this in the first place must be laughing his ass off!!
I can accept bondings and lower pay during training, the rest is bull****!!
And for you that tell me that you get a step ahead and your lifetime salary will be better - get real!! If this continues, there will be no jobs left in the real airlines!!
and yes, the first job is hard to get - I waited years, so I know the game - and its not funny!
best luck to all that work for money
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kip is right.I have been in this market for 30 years, so I know the ****.
are pilot a bunch of idiots?
I have seen too many sleeping in their car,..
and the most amazing thing: flight schools are filled with these idiots thinking they will get a well paid job after their 200h CPL, and they all think there is a pilot shortage.
the wanabe sections is filled with guys like that!
anyway I have more money than you, I can buy t/r on any plane I want, and line training so you will be kick out! I am waiting for a place on the 380...
are pilot a bunch of idiots?
I have seen too many sleeping in their car,..
and the most amazing thing: flight schools are filled with these idiots thinking they will get a well paid job after their 200h CPL, and they all think there is a pilot shortage
.the wanabe sections is filled with guys like that!
anyway I have more money than you, I can buy t/r on any plane I want, and line training so you will be kick out! I am waiting for a place on the 380...
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A320 line training
This company AWVS - aviation solutions offered me 300 hours for 15000€
but i dont like that they ask 5000€ deposit and the contract will be online!!
So any advice guys?
but i dont like that they ask 5000€ deposit and the contract will be online!!
So any advice guys?
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mpalie,
would you stop to put fake advertising for your fake web site.
Mod, please, ban this guy, he is everywhere trying to get pilots into his fake P2F scam...
would you stop to put fake advertising for your fake web site.
Mod, please, ban this guy, he is everywhere trying to get pilots into his fake P2F scam...