FLYBE 2008 sponsorship

[aftab]

To all those looking for sponsorship!! (ish)

Flybe is delighted to offer a part sponsorship scheme for trainee pilots. Selected applicants will benefit from a successful formula developed over the last twelve years and aimed at providing high quality First Officers to work on the Dash 8 Q400 fleet. The Airline will make a substantial contribution towards the cost of a full JAA Integrated Course conducted by Cabair at Cranfield and Valencia.

http://www.cabair.com/sponsorship/index.htm

Good luck to all that that apply.

[4KBeta]

I have been looking at applying for this over the last week. I realise it is a great chance to get help with costs, but what worried me is what are the chances of moving on from the Q400 after the compulsory 5 years?

Has anyone had experience flying the Q400? Comments?

All comments welcome,

Thanks

[Biggles_77]

Flybe FO Pay

Can anyone (maybe someone who actually got through this scheme last year / or year before) tell me what FlyBe FO's earn per annum on the Dash 8 Q400? - Thinking of applying but would'nt mind knowing what will be coming in & going out ? - what you were left with after all training loan payments were taken out ?

[camel toe]

Comments re the Q400

From a good friend of mine "it's a sod to land"

[AlphaMale]

I looked at it last year, I don't think the pay would really leave you with much of a life for the first 5 years of working as a FO. The feeling I got from some experienced airline pilots was to just pay my own way via modular (no debt) and start applying to airlines.

Pay is somewhere between £25k and £30k? or so I am told.

Good luck to all that apply.

[Maude Charlee]

Take home £1800-1900 per month year 1, and all training costs paid by the company - no reduction in your pay to repay bond.

Q400 just a big pussy cat, the landing difficulties are a myth.

No need to strees about the pay, 18 months - 2 years max and you can expect jet FO position or a command and a significant increase in take home.

[mattkcraven]

Applicants must meet the following requirements :

• Be able to demonstrate clear commitment, loyalty and a passion to fly.
• Have the unrestricted right to work in the UK.
• Have an absolute minimum of two A levels, to include Mathematics and Physics (or science based subjects)
• Hold, or be capable of holding, a UK issued JAA Class 1 Medical Certificate.
• Have no more than 60 hours of previous flying experience.

No more than 60 hours flying experience!! oh, my bad for enjoying flying and working hard to keep my hours ticking over whilst at university.......but thats clearly not "demonstrating a clear commitment, loyalty and a passion to fly".

Sometimes

[anotherspaceman]

but thats clearly not "demonstrating a clear commitment, loyalty and a passion to fly".

Sometimes

Not at all. It just makes it more difficult to knock the bad habits out of you.

The MAPS scheme is available to you without the 60 hour restriction. Of course the financial committment/risk is all yours too, just in case you retain to many bad habits

[mattkcraven]

it just makes it more difficult to knock the bad habits out of you

Bad habits, I know I have plenty, but I do struggle to comprehend that it takes more effort to get rid of those than to learn to fly from 0 hours. Ah well, that decision has been made by pilots and instructors who know the business inside and out, but it makes it no less irritating.

Still, would not have it any other way, flying with my PPL these last few years has been, well......epic!

[high-hopes]

Not at all. It just makes it more difficult to knock the bad habits out of you.

The MAPS scheme is available to you without the 60 hour restriction. Of course the financial committment/risk is all yours too, just in case you retain to many bad habits

Sitting at 80 hours currently.

Will I be able to discuss this with them and try and ask for a concession, or should I knock a few hours off the logbook ?

I believe I have been taught by competent and experienced JAA instructors, some of which hold the same qualification of the Cabair instructors, issued by the same authority.
Isn't it a bit unfair to say to all the modular PPLs around the country have been given bad habits ?

[bri1980]

Originally Posted by high-hopes

Isn't it a bit unfair to say to all the modular PPLs around the country have been given bad habits ?

Yes it most certainly is, but remember that someone above suggested that was the reason, not Flybe themselves.

[littco]

"It just makes it more difficult to knock the bad habits out of you."
Sorry, but that infers that Cabair are above everyone else in their training and teach to a higher standard and everyone else teachs you slack/bad habits! Which is simply not true, Just because you train at Cabair wont automatically make you a better pilot, I don't think that if you train with them you are any better or worse than anybody that has trained any other school ( Don't get me wrong you may well be in some cases ). The fact is that with 60 hours training under your belt (and no doubt a PPL issued )you will have skills, good or bad, which may not be to the style that Cabair train.
I would agree however that it is benefical to both instructor and student if you start with little or no training before hand as you will learn the Cabair way quicker rather than having to adjust your flying skills from what you've already learnt.

[MikadoTrident]

What is the MAPS scheme???

[bri1980]

Mentored Airline Pilot Scheme at a guess

B

[Slow Progress]

I have been looking at this too but I don't have A Levels as i have been working within the Aviation industry straight from school for the last ten years!!

I'm gonna apply anyway and see what happens.

I'm more worried about the 500 word written task that we are to discuss at interview.

Slow Progress

[Philpaz]

Well from looking about over the past year, i think this looks like by far the best scheme i've seen. If i'm reading it right, 42k ish for the full course with a job at the end. Thats modular money for integrated training with a job guarantee! Bargain.

[SingSong]

If you have 200 hours already i would suggest you go and just do your CPL and IR, it'd be far cheaper than forking out 40K and then repaying that and flybe back (for their portion of the costs)

[4KBeta]

Thanks for the comments, took a visit to CabAir a few days ago. I will be applying for the scheme over the next few days. I will let you know if and when they get back to me.

Special thanks for the comments about the Q400

[Biggles_77]

They say essential are 2 A Levels to apply.. I have 1 A level, HND in Computing and Degree in Computing - so I dont meet the A level requirements but have a Degree.. would I get a look in you reckon ?

[4KBeta]

Bit of a waste to have the HND obviously but either way I am in a similar position and still applying, remember all they can say is no....or yes of course