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Old 18th Jun 2007, 16:38
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Roles of a First Officer

This may seem like an obvious question to some however I would like to know the roles and responsibilities of a newly qualified first officer?
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Do everything the Skipper says
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Check with the fuel Truck(its raining)..
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Same as a non-newly qualified FO
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Old 18th Jun 2007, 19:52
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Basically carry out the duties inline with the company operations manuals. Complete pre-flight paperwork, check notams, weather etc complete peformance data ( depending on company) check gross weight charts etc
once at the plane, complete cockpit set up etc
After that, carry out your role as pilot flying or pilot monitoring, as agreed with the Captain.
All good fun
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Old 18th Jun 2007, 22:01
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Should you find yourself working as a FO in the corporate sector, in addition to the above you may also have to do, but not limited to the following tasks:-

Plan and file the flight
Order/Purchase and prepare catering
Meet and board the passengers
Brief the passengers
Go back and serve drinks if there is a quiet moment in the cruise
Disembark the passengers
Clean the aircraft (inside and out)
If your still standing at the end of the day there will be a pile of Jepp updates to do.
FO's with my company are also responsible for flight expenditure.

Far more interesting and rewarding world than that of the airline FO.
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Ask lots of questions (at the right times of course).
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I'll take the fat one sir..
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the fat one being the not SLF bag of course!
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FO= Flap operator
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gear up, flap up, shut up!
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the 3 things a fo should say...

1. can i carry your bags
2. good landing captain
3. i'll take the fat one
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In my experience the F/O can be the one guy who can rescue the situation when things get busy. Maybe I should say the PNF, who could be the Captain.
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Hi there
Be the guy who doesn't have to prompted to do things, ie; don't sit there like a statue waiting for the Boss to tell you to check with the refueller/met/ramp agent/engineer.You need to be ahead of the game, not trailing it.
Don't be intimidated by ground staff.If you have a question, no matter how dumb you think it might sound, ask it.Ground staff, and vice versa, can be so focused on their own roles that they can lose sight of your tasks.
Watch the refueller like a hawk.Don't let him overfuel/underfuel just for a convenient round-off on the truck meter.If you're weight critical, such as when you have to go into short strips, you need to be on the ball with this one, as most refuellers have no idea what being weight-critical means.
Do a proper walk-around.Ask the engineer if you have any doubts and don't be rushed 'cos that's the day you'll go and fly with a panel open.I've seen FOs sent back by the Skipper for doing too casual a walk-around, to do it again.
Be in early.In such a time-critical industry, being late is bad news and not good for your reputation.
Be humble(this may be a new concept to some).Shut up and learn and don't gob off at anyone.Most of the people you meet on your first day, no matter what trade they pursue, have more actual live airline experience than you have, so be nice, pay attention when they speak to you and display the appropriate respect.If you act like a superior pilot being, you will rapidly be put in your place.
You are, in effect, starting the real practical phase of an apprenticeship, so sit up in class, pay attention to the teachers and keep your paperwork tidy, just like you shoudda done in school....
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As it was explained to me , my only job is to keep the captain from getting the sack.
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 11:51
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Some helpful replies and some not so helpful replies. I'm a reasonably new FO for a UK loco so I'll give you a brief rundown of a days work.

Arrive before the captain, and print off computerised flight plans and weather. (this is prepared by ops so all we have to do is put the flight numbers in and it all prints out.)

Check the WX and the CFP, make sure you have all documentation required.

Meet the captain, discuss the WX and agree a fuel figure. (The captain will usually ask which sectors you wish to fly and will ask you what fuel you require). The captain has the final say on fuel but will also be sure that the FO is happy with the fuel taken.

Once you are out at the aircraft the duties are basically split between pilot monitoring and pilot flying regardless of who is captain.

The PM will do the walk round and the PF will set up the FMC and Navaids for the flight.

FO specific tasks in our company are keeping the journey log (CHOX and Airborne Times, Crew Duty Hours, Fuel Uplift), and doing the majority of the pre-flight panel scan. Capt specific task is to maintain the tech log, call for the clearance, give the welcome aboard PA, talk to ground crew for pushback etc..

When the FO is PF, he/she will set up the FMC/Navaids and will brief the captain on how the departure and arrivals will be flown, what flap settings used, taxi route etc. The captain will offer advice and obviously step in if unhappy with any aspect of the operation, but if you do everything per SOP's, make sensible decisions and fly reasonably the captain will just sit there and do nothing more than the tasks of the PM.

Hope that helps.
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Old 22nd Jun 2007, 17:17
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Try this...

Best way to see what a 1st officer does is to see it. The site below has videos of airline flights, taken from specially placed flightdeck cameras (and others) and will give you a good idea of exactly what goes on frompoint of view of both pilot-flying and PNF. Both pilots talk you through all they do and show you round cockpit etc during flight.

http://www.itvv.com/details.asp

The 'platinum collection' ones are far better as they use more cameras and are better produced. I got the Go 737 & BMI Fokker 100 ones and can recommend both
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Different roles depending on the company. Where I work you most definitely do not pitch up early for work as either F/O or capt. To do so, would give the company further excuse for claiming all manner of industrial practices had become the norm. Also, our F/Os are expected to fulfill the role PICUS pretty much in toto; depening on the capt, and there are few exceptions, you will do everything apart from sign the tech log and make the welcome-on-board-apologies-for-Heathrow PA. Obviously if you start making completely arbitrary and unsupportable decisions on, for example, fuel, the skipper will step in but you will be expected to demonstrate on a daily basis that you have the potential for command.
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 10:01
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Do a proper walk-around.Ask the engineer if you have any doubts and don't be rushed 'cos that's the day you'll go and fly with a panel open.I've seen FOs sent back by the Skipper for doing too casual a walk-around, to do it again.
Seen crews pushing back with pitot covers on.
If they can't spot that on a walk around I wonder what they were thinking of !
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 10:20
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"Also, our F/Os are expected to fulfill the role PICUS pretty much in toto; depening on the capt, and there are few exceptions, you will do everything apart from sign the tech log and make the welcome-on-board-apologies-for-Heathrow PA."

what is picus and in toto? every time i think i've got the hang of what's required of this job, some new words get thrown into the equasion. also, what are notams? and does it stand for something particular?

more questions. what does WX, CFP and RHS stand for and mean? and when people talk about sectors, is that normally in reference to the route they take, or how many flights they do in a day/week?
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