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Group discussions are mainly in Deutsch. If you don't how to say something in German, it's no problem if you switch to English for a sec. But you have to try and stick to German. The interview is also in German. So I think they would really like to see that your knowledge of the German language is sufficient. So my advise would be..practise this as much as you can. You can try to read german newspapers, magazines. (for e.g. about recent topics so it's also easier to understand at first). Watch german tv. Just to get used to the language. And of course, if time permits, you can attend a german course. Good way to get your conversation skills at a good level.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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What aircraft are newhires being placed in - Dash 8-400, CRJ or Fokker 70/100? How are the positions allocated (need in each fleet or by experience/hours)? What are the bases for newhires?
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Base is VIE for all new hires.
Fleet allocation is done at random. Has nothing to do with your experience. They put you there where they need you.
You might think you will fly Fokker, however...
Presently we receive a lot of F100's. Many Dash8 captains switch to the F100, Dash8 copilots become captain on the Dash so a lot of newcomers become copilot on the Dash8.
CRJ fleet is stable at the moment so newcomers go mainly to Fokker and Dash.
Fleet allocation is done at random. Has nothing to do with your experience. They put you there where they need you.
You might think you will fly Fokker, however...
Presently we receive a lot of F100's. Many Dash8 captains switch to the F100, Dash8 copilots become captain on the Dash so a lot of newcomers become copilot on the Dash8.
CRJ fleet is stable at the moment so newcomers go mainly to Fokker and Dash.
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Hey people!
I am just wondering where to send my application to Austrian Arrows.
I looked at Austrian homepage without luck.
Please PM me or email me at [email protected].
I heared there is no requirement on speaking German, anyone knows more about this?
Thanks and good luck to you all on the selection!
Regards
Per
I am just wondering where to send my application to Austrian Arrows.
I looked at Austrian homepage without luck.
Please PM me or email me at [email protected].
I heared there is no requirement on speaking German, anyone knows more about this?
Thanks and good luck to you all on the selection!
Regards
Per
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hey tufve,
http://www.austrianairlines.co.at/de...lotenInnen.htm
look down the page you will find email adresses and phone numbers. and it's better you speak german just read all the topics about austrian arrows/tyrolean.
is there anybody who knows if there is a chance to apply at austrian airlines when you are flying with austrian arrows, i read on an old website of austrian airlines (http://www.pilotrecruitment.at/index5.htm)
that you need 500 hours within the austrian group. does anybody know if it happened that a.arrows pilots succesfully applied at a.airlines in the short past?
http://www.austrianairlines.co.at/de...lotenInnen.htm
look down the page you will find email adresses and phone numbers. and it's better you speak german just read all the topics about austrian arrows/tyrolean.
is there anybody who knows if there is a chance to apply at austrian airlines when you are flying with austrian arrows, i read on an old website of austrian airlines (http://www.pilotrecruitment.at/index5.htm)
that you need 500 hours within the austrian group. does anybody know if it happened that a.arrows pilots succesfully applied at a.airlines in the short past?
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Presently there is no "flowthrough" agreement from Tyrolean to Austrian, although there are talks to implement such a thing.
Working at Tyrolean doesn't prevent you from applying at Austrian but it won't help either. Austrian will require a separate selection with tougher medical criteria and tougher criteria on maximum age (AFAIK).
You'll lose money paid for your Tyrolean typerating if you leave before Tyrolean has paid the typerating, which usually takes 5 years these days.
Working at Tyrolean doesn't prevent you from applying at Austrian but it won't help either. Austrian will require a separate selection with tougher medical criteria and tougher criteria on maximum age (AFAIK).
You'll lose money paid for your Tyrolean typerating if you leave before Tyrolean has paid the typerating, which usually takes 5 years these days.
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Tyrolean / Austrian Arrows selection.
Hello Ppruners,
Well, 2 days ago, I've received an invitation from the company in question to participate in Kopilotenselektion starting on the 17th of October in Innsbruck. Any of the fellow Ppruners going there as well? Also, I would like to ask anyone that has info on the following questions. The tests on the first day for Regs, Meteo, Perfo and ect.., are they in English or German? And the Psychological tests on the second day, I believe the psychometric tests, are they in English or German? My German is OK, considering that I speak dutch and have learned German to a basic level, it does worry me though to see the questions in German in front of me. Considering the fact that I have learned all the JAA and FAA theoretical knowledge in English, and am comfortable in using English technical terminology, but have never learned any of the aviation terminology in German.
Well, I still have more than 2 months left and intend to polish up on my German by buying some PC German language software.
I've also purchased books like Handling the big Jets, Ace technical pilot interview, and practice psychometric tests.
Any info anyone could provide would be great, to prepare fur das Selektion.
Cheers to you all.
Smooth flight.
Well, 2 days ago, I've received an invitation from the company in question to participate in Kopilotenselektion starting on the 17th of October in Innsbruck. Any of the fellow Ppruners going there as well? Also, I would like to ask anyone that has info on the following questions. The tests on the first day for Regs, Meteo, Perfo and ect.., are they in English or German? And the Psychological tests on the second day, I believe the psychometric tests, are they in English or German? My German is OK, considering that I speak dutch and have learned German to a basic level, it does worry me though to see the questions in German in front of me. Considering the fact that I have learned all the JAA and FAA theoretical knowledge in English, and am comfortable in using English technical terminology, but have never learned any of the aviation terminology in German.
Well, I still have more than 2 months left and intend to polish up on my German by buying some PC German language software.
I've also purchased books like Handling the big Jets, Ace technical pilot interview, and practice psychometric tests.
Any info anyone could provide would be great, to prepare fur das Selektion.
Cheers to you all.
Smooth flight.
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All you need to do, in order to get yourself prepared for the 1. Stufe, is to get a book with FAA questions - thats what they use (and they are in english of course). I reckon the level is CPL - not ATPL (chk out the book by Kershner if You dont already have it). No sweat. But when it comes to 2.Stufe. Sweat! There is a german book called "piloten-test" by Hesse Schrader. Its useful. Good luck! P
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Thanks for the input again.
Well here is another question. The five stufe as it is called in german, the 5 parts of the selestion , in how many days is it organized? I have heared that it takes 3 days.
Cheers.
Well here is another question. The five stufe as it is called in german, the 5 parts of the selestion , in how many days is it organized? I have heared that it takes 3 days.
Cheers.
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Stufe 1 and 2. takes place on the first two days. If u pass that you´ll be called for to do the sim-chk. Thats another day. 4. and 5. is the same story (pass=go for the next), but all that is mentioned on your invitation. I´m up for the last one - so if anyone of you got some of their question - plz let me know!
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Hi Smoothflight,
I've done the interview in november last year... I see you're from Belgium, if you got any questions you can always PM so we can discuss it in dutch (if you're from flanders) or in french (not that mine is that good, but I can try) or in german (but if your living in the german speaking part of Belgium, than that's a big advantage for your group interview :-) )
anyway, to get the FAA CPL question book is a big advantage...
the computer part is the hardest, four hours of hard work wich you can't prepare,
the interview is standard, and the group discussion is really hard if you're not native speaking german, definetely not if you're discussing with 7 östereichischen about some famous östereicher, whom i never heard of :-)
I've done the interview in november last year... I see you're from Belgium, if you got any questions you can always PM so we can discuss it in dutch (if you're from flanders) or in french (not that mine is that good, but I can try) or in german (but if your living in the german speaking part of Belgium, than that's a big advantage for your group interview :-) )
anyway, to get the FAA CPL question book is a big advantage...
the computer part is the hardest, four hours of hard work wich you can't prepare,
the interview is standard, and the group discussion is really hard if you're not native speaking german, definetely not if you're discussing with 7 östereichischen about some famous östereicher, whom i never heard of :-)
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Tyrolean Final Interview
Has anyone recently been to the final interview in Innsbruck (4. Stufe)?
What kind of questions were asked and what did you answear?
It would obviously be very interesting to hear from someone, that has actually passed it.
Thanks
What kind of questions were asked and what did you answear?
It would obviously be very interesting to hear from someone, that has actually passed it.
Thanks
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Be yourself. Know how to answer "cases". (Drunk captain, going below minima, capt not flying according SOP, what do you do?) Don't let them intimidate you, because they do that, as I know.
And be prepared for the normal questions of course. (why you, why us, how and when...)
Second thing is how your other test results are. With excellent results they just want confirmation in the interview. When your results are marginal, you will have to convince them.
Good luck!
And be prepared for the normal questions of course. (why you, why us, how and when...)
Second thing is how your other test results are. With excellent results they just want confirmation in the interview. When your results are marginal, you will have to convince them.
Good luck!
Last edited by Liftdumper; 17th Oct 2005 at 14:56.