Tyrolean

[vdive]

Did somebody had the opportunity to join the Tyrolean Assessment recently ? Any information and insights would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks for your help.

[MOUNTAIN]

Look at www.pilots.de
They have the subject under the topic school.
Good luck!

[Sky Goose]

Anyone Going to Tyrolean Selection ?

Hi,

I’ve been lucky enough to be asked to go to the Tyrolean (Austrian Arrow) selection on the, 21st of July.
Just wondering if anyone has any tips or other info about the Tyrolean selection process that would be of assistance to a very anxious wannabe who does no want to F up the first opportunity that has come along in a year !

Any help silly/stupid/amusing comments welcome.

cheers

[C-47]

Tyrolean Airways Interview

Hi everybody,

I've been invited to Tyrolean Airways selections of next July 21. Reading the invitation letter it seems to be a kind of hard selection.

I was wondering if anybody is currently flying for Tyrolean and can give me some advice and/or description of the whole selection process. I am particularly intrested in learning a bit more about the % of german language during interviews, written questions etc. The invitation letter was totally in german and I have no idea if english will be spoken or not...and I doubt that my german could be enough...

Thanks in advance for any advice.

C-47

[Voeni]

C-47, see you there!

been invited for July 21, too... guess, the first test is in english, but you should definitely try to learn german!

[Kerropi]

HI,

I went there in 2002. The first test was a psycology test. Questions were all in German. We were with ten people. But none of them made it through

The second was an interview with Dr. Morawetz (??) he asked about your motivation to become a pilot and where else did you apply?. Nothing to difficult... but everything was in German..

I have heard that only 10 procent will made it.

K.

[OE-LBA]

AUA-Homepage states:
"Deutsch- und ausgezeichnete Englischkenntnisse sind Voraussetzung"

(Translation: "Outstanding knowledge of German and English language is required.")

Sorry, no english-only pilots at Tyrolean...
Greetz, Niki

[C-47]

Thanks for all of your answers guys !

Well, german if not my mother tongue...of course...but I can speak it quite well ! I'm not sure if that will be sufficent but I'll give it a try !

Any other advices and specific information about the selection process is warmly appreciated !

Thanks again

C-47

[eugi]

hey everybody,

i just go invited for the first selection part in hamburg for tyrolean airways.
anybody has got an idea what happens there and how many made it through?

thanks for every answer

eugi

[flugfisch]

Hi,

Iīm also invited to nterpersonal on the 24īth.
They have some informations about the test with sample questions on www.interpersonal.de.

http://www.interpersonal.de/site/mm_.../vm_downloads/

See you there!

[Sky Goose]

Also lucky enough to be invited.

I heard some info from someone who did the selection in Innsbruck in Feb this year. Not to say it will be the same but you never know, so hear goes.

They said the theory test was based on the FAA commercial licence ?! (in english)

The sim assesment is in a Elite simulator (Single engine piston Mooney). (practice Graz and Linz)

The Psycometric testing is pretty hectic so do yourselves a favour and get some practise tests etc.
A current pilot at Tyrolean said Testtraining 2000plus by
Juergen Hesse was very usefull, but he took the test 2 years ago.

I must stress this is just info Ive recieved off people that went to previous selections and things might change.

Hope this helps you all, and in a few months were all cruising Europe in Fokkers !

[Victor]

Hi everyone!

I've been invited to selection on the 21st as well. Does any of you know further about the tests? Is it FAA or JAR questions? What kind of simulator is to be used?

Any replies welcome

[LVL CHG]

Any idea about likely aircraft type for newhires? Someone mentioned Fokkers but they also fly Dash 8 300s and 400s (nice) and the CRJ. Anyone have an idea about how newhires are placed on certain fleets - is it by need at the time?

Cheers - I'd like the Dash 400 bitte

[145G]

Anybody invited for tyrolean selection in september.........?

Hello,

am curious if there are some more guys here that are invited for the Tyrolean selection in september.
I have the first test the 13th .
I am also interested the way you guys are preparing yourself for this "battlefield" .
Maybe if there are some more guys from The Netherlands, we could travel together to Innsbruck.
Furthermore, any information about the test would be greatly appreciated!!!

Cheers!!!!!

[Street]

Tyrolean Airways/Austrian Arrows

Hey everybody,

According a few websites they are expanding very rapidly. Also the fact that they are getting Fokker 100 aircraft is interesting.
Due to the new orders they are looking for new pilots. That is the info that I got........from my sources. I hope it is true. Perhaps someone could add some details about this subject.

I would also like to hear some info from (former)candidates about the selektion proces. Which is I believe very hard!

The first step: wissenstest (ATPL questions in English)
The second step: Psycho-test (not easy from what I've heard)
Than: sim-screening (is it true that they changed to multi-engine sim???)
Lust but not least: a word with members of the board, CFI etc.

Off course after this you have to get an Austrian Licence.


For all the candidates: GOOD LUCK !!! / Viel Erfolg !!!

Mfg

Street.

[Sky Goose]

Hey Street

Just got back from the selection in Innsbruck,

First phase:
English flight theory test. Get FAA CPL study guide and youll be fine, it pretty much based on the FAA CPL, well 90% ish.

Second Phase:
Psycometric testing (2 days, includes group discussion, one to one interview with Psycologist and computer based psycometric test)
The computer based test is pretty harsh, memory test, motor skills, reaction time, multitasking and concentration.
I bought Hesse Schrader, Test Training 2000.
I thought I was pretty well prepared and a good candidate, (Mechanical Engineering Backround), but wasnt called back for next phase....sob sob sob

Third Phase:
Sim check..Linz or Graz, (SID, Star, rad vectors, ILS, single needle approach etc.) Yes I think they use a multi engine sim now, but no engine faliures etc. so same as single

Fourth Phase
Interview with management and chief pilot

Fifth Stage
Medical

Apply and be prepared, they are apparently looking for 60 f/o's for the Fokker 100's.

Dont kid yourself, prepare as best you can, on the previous selection out of 100 people they only took 4, holy crap, fussy or what.
If you do f up you can apply again in 6 month.


Good luck

Goose

[porchini]

Tyrolean Sim chk

I survived Morawetz and got an invitation for the simulatortest. Well, I heard rumours that it is an Seneca V, but if anyone has any information regarding the chk donīt hesitate contacting me..

[Wonkavator]

Well porchini, I've tried it 2 years ago. I honestly cannot say if it is still the same simulator, but here's what I had to go through.

You have to do this check completely single pilot, but since the instructor wants to know what you're doing, you have to talk to "yourself".
It's single engine simulator, kind of cheap, based on some kind flight sim program, but doesn't have any nice graphics. The good thing about this single engine is that is goes slower that with a twin of course.
One thing you REALLY have to pay attention to is 'kickin the ball'. Simply because if you don't your climb rate goes negative or your speed goes down 25-30 kts. And believe me, those pedals are more sensitive than you can imagine. I sneezed twice in a row and almost stalled .....
The approach I had to do had a base turn in it (which you know you can fly either direction). And since I had a pretty bad approach-angle, I decided to go outbound opposite to the final course and create a shorter final track for comfort sake.........BUT NOOOOOOO, the instructor would have liked me fly the other way and create a long final. And I got busted because I argued with him.
So whatever you do, DON'T ARGUE WITH HIM. Oh yeah, make friends there, because I heared they rather hire someone with a lot less experience but who has a friend on the inside.

Good luck

[doglegfinal]

I have passed the sim check a week ago, you don't have to worry about keeping the ball centered, its now a multiengine sim. So as long as you keep your power synchronised you won't have any trouble with the ball or climb performance. What they expect you to do is: Normal TO (without SID) , turns to a heading, then you are cleared to the VOR for a full ILS approach. Then Go around , an intercept (can be vor radial or qdm) then to the NDB for a full ndb approach with a landing.
It is a twinengine and the power settings and speeds are on the checklists, but I have remembered some speeds like:

Vr 80 kts
Vclimb 90 kts
Vapp 90 kts
Vle 130 kts
Vfe (flaps 10) 115 kts (not sure about this one)

Power settings:
TO 40" 2500 RPM
Climb 40" 2300
Cruise 30" 2300 RPM

You will be called to the room 15 min. in advance, then they will give you the checklist and the approach plate of the field (usually Graz or Linz). Don't expect to "fly the stars from the sky" (sorry about this Dutchism) because the sim is very unstable in its pitch attitude, but don't worry too much about that, they only want to know, that yóu know what you are doing. And like the other guy mentioned, think aloud, so they know what you are thinking.

Good luck

[porchini]

Now that is excellent.. Thanks a lot to both of you guys . Just out of curiosity: did you make it dogleg? Well, and while going through the powersettings I couldnīt help wondering about the manifoldpressure: does it simulate af groundboosted turbocharge - hence the 40"(?).
And Wonk, I have zero experience and a friend on the inside


porchini