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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 11th Mar 2018, 19:46
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Originally Posted by gbotley
@Maverick97,

Since I started here cadets have been placed with easyJet, FlyBe, AirTanker (A330 commercial charter operations for the likes of Jet2 and TCX long haul), Norwegian, Aurigny and Aegean to name a few.
Cadets haven't been placed.
Cadet applied, and got an interview, that is different..
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Old 9th Apr 2018, 22:45
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Does anyone have any recommendations for pre-course reading?

I have six months until I start with L3 and have been given access to my Padpilot ATPL iBooks. Do any current or previous cadets have any recommendations on particularly hard topics/ concepts that would be beneficial getting my head around before starting.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 05:47
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I would be in the same position as you Benshaw. I don't have a PPL so might be behind the curve to begin with.

Does anybody know when CTC might be sending cadets to Portugal?
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 21:31
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Originally Posted by Gregory787

Does anybody know when CTC might be sending cadets to Portugal?
Already started. I believe it's generally Whitetail cadets being sent there over tagged.
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 11:19
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benshaw, when do start / what course are you on, I start in about 6 months too?
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Old 26th Apr 2018, 06:05
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If I pay for my Integrated ATPL with L3 and then pay for my Type Rating with easyjet for example, will i then have to also pay for line training?
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Old 21st Aug 2018, 09:31
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Is there a current/past CTC/L3 cadet who is willing to let me see a copy of their Airline Placement Limited (APL) bond agreement please?
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 17:30
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Originally Posted by benshaw
Does anyone have any recommendations for pre-course reading?

I have six months until I start with L3 and have been given access to my Padpilot ATPL iBooks. Do any current or previous cadets have any recommendations on particularly hard topics/ concepts that would be beneficial getting my head around before starting.
1. Get your maths up to speed. Basic gcse/ a-level stuff is crucial; re arranging formulas, arithmetic and trig are they key areas to be super hot on. The maths is the only thing that you need to have sorted beforehand to hit the ground running. You only get a couple of hours on basic maths the second day and then thats it, if you aren't comfortable with it, it can be really tough.
2. Don't touch PadPilot until you start the course, its utterly pointless. You might think you can get ahead but you can't.
3. Go buy Pukka Pads, coloured pens, highlighters, Post-It notes, a medium size whiteboard with drywipe pens, mechanical pencils and a big laminated world map for your room.
4. Go see all your mates/family beforehand and have a laugh and relax. I went on holiday before starting and it was great because I started nice and relaxed and in a good frame of mind.
5. Get to know your course mates on the first day. Having a social on the first Friday is crucial as its the only real time you can go out and have a laugh as a CP until Module 1 is over. Its astonishing how much the performance varies between CPs that gel well and those that don't. I got lucky and my CP really get on. Your course mates really do drag you through.
6. Keep positive. There is an awful lot of moaning that goes on that you will hear from CPs ahead of you. Most of it is attributed to EASA exam stress, but there is some discontent about the dreaded delays at the end of ground school. Ignore it all, you are 6 months and 14 exams away from finishing Ground school so your only job is to work hard and get good results. I have heard the word "sausage factory" banded about a lot, while its an unkind name there is an awful lot of guys and girls being put through the school, and the pace is relentless. Every cadet is all guilty of a moan at one time or another; just remember to not let it drag you down and try be the fattest and tastiest sausage in the whole factory!
7. Enjoy it where you can. Yes some things will seem so abstract that you wonder how on earth you will ever pass an exam on it, but the key is to keep chipping away at it and it will all fall in to place. The subjects are genuinely interesting for the most part and the instructors are genuinely great, you will have a laugh in lessons.

Good luck.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 23:42
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Having come out the other side of the process, I couldn’t have put it better myself. Top advice there :-)
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 08:42
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Any update on the Portuguese operation?
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 17:51
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Any improvement on the utterly horrendous delays inflicted on the flying programme? Is it getting any better?
It seems to be yes. Although around the water cooler you hear of some pretty poor situations for some CPs. The powers that be are certainly aware of it, and the communication about the situation has been good. From the sounds of it the loss of Phenix came at exactly the wrong time, hence the ripples are still being felt. Two new flying training locations have just come online and are alleviating the delays.

Any update on the Portuguese operation?
More aircraft are leaving the maintenance contractor at Coventry and heading over. Again, things should be on the up from now on.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:44
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Originally Posted by Gregory787
If I pay for my Integrated ATPL with L3 and then pay for my Type Rating with easyjet for example, will i then have to also pay for line training?
No, line training is on-the-job. You are working as a pilot so will get paid.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:49
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad
Any improvement on the utterly horrendous delays inflicted on the flying programme? Is it getting any better?
It's not getting better. If anything it's getting worse with the decision to train RAF pilots at what is already the most oversubscribed training facility. Students at Bournemouth have had weeks and weeks of delays and this ripples back through the system.

Even those on MPL courses are seeing huge delays despite needing to be at the airlines. Those of us on Wings have little hope of avoiding months of delays, without the option of getting a job in the meantime.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 10:38
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To add to the above. Some friends of friends have literally been told, having done 9 months training at an extremely slow pace in Bournemouth, that they are to go out to New Zealand and do their CPL there.

It seems it gets worse and worse for those guys and girls over at L3 by the day. The RAF situation is the main cause of the Bournemouth woes. I hear those guys fly Monday to Friday every day whereas L3 guys barely get a flight a fortnight.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 22:29
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Wow what has happened to CTC? Sounds like a complete mess. What a shame.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 21:32
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Originally Posted by Field Required
Wow what has happened to CTC? Sounds like a complete mess. What a shame.
The instruction is good quality.

Unfortunately management can't see in front of their nose, which results in huge backlogs at various stages. Then you get told of being stood down for some weeks or months. Then the company buys out a new facility and releases a press release along the lines of 'we are aware of the delays, this is us dealing with it'. Of course this doesn't help the people that have just been delayed as it takes time to get a new place up and running.

Then they convince many more aspiring pilots to join, then further overload with RAF people.

Repeat the process.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 05:06
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They’re providing multi engine training to the raf I’ve heard. Not sure on the specifics. Perhaps someone closer to L3 could shed some light.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 07:17
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What's happening with the RAF ?

The RAF cadets were only due to start in August 2018, so I would suggest any ‘Bournemouth woes’ prior to August are due to some other cause.

One hundred RAF students over three years according to the L3 and RAF press releases, to receive multi-engine CPL/IR courses, following basic flying training with the RAF. ..............

https://www.pilotcareernews.com/l3-t...or-raf-pilots/

It seems likely this group of students is being trained at Bournemouth on the DA42, on a hastily competed contract, necessitated by failure of the RAF to fund and procure enough crystal balls for their now civilianised flying training system (MFTS)

LFH

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Old 4th Sep 2018, 22:38
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Wow L3 are really milking the cow good.
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Old 9th Sep 2018, 17:24
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Hey guys,

Anyone on here starting at L3 Coventry on the 9th of October in CP201? Trying to get in touch with anyone before the course starts.
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