The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.
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Can someone answer me this...
Why is the flying phase in New Zealand so long? I mean normally in an intensive environment it would be possible to teach a PPL in two months and the CPL probably in another two at the very most.
Yet reading the CTC wings course description describes eight months in New Zealand...what on earth do you spend your time doing?
Why is the flying phase in New Zealand so long? I mean normally in an intensive environment it would be possible to teach a PPL in two months and the CPL probably in another two at the very most.
Yet reading the CTC wings course description describes eight months in New Zealand...what on earth do you spend your time doing?
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ContactTower, setting off Fire Extinguishers and watching online movies at Clearways, the campus accommodation.
Joking aside, OAA Phoenix is normally a 5-month stretch but this too can vary with availability of aircraft and instructors. I believe the same is true at CTC with regards to potential limited availability.
Joking aside, OAA Phoenix is normally a 5-month stretch but this too can vary with availability of aircraft and instructors. I believe the same is true at CTC with regards to potential limited availability.
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Also, if you stayed here you'd be doing an hours building element with the modular route. You dont quite have to do the equivalent, but you dont just finish a PPL then leap straight into the CPL
I will admit that it is perhaps unnecessarily long, when we were there there was a lot of instructors leaving for their first airline jobs which made it all a little slower. You end up flying solidly for 1 week and then have 2 weeks with nothing on.
With your time off, get down to Raglan as much as possible, get a season pass on the Luge at Rotorua, Tauranga is a lot nicer than Hamilton so go down there for the day. There is a bit to do but just remember that it is a country for tourists so everything does end up costing a lot. Apart from that, just sit in your room and dream about the big shiny jet!
With your time off, get down to Raglan as much as possible, get a season pass on the Luge at Rotorua, Tauranga is a lot nicer than Hamilton so go down there for the day. There is a bit to do but just remember that it is a country for tourists so everything does end up costing a lot. Apart from that, just sit in your room and dream about the big shiny jet!
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Now that airlines like Monarch & Qatar have launched their own program's, who do you think most people will end up working for? Given the other partner airlines may not be expanding as much etc
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Longest wait in the pool at the moment around 9 months. 50+ starting TR from September. EasyJet have just ordered 135 new airbus, the current generation A320 due for delivery from 2015. Doesn't look too gloomy?!
Quoted from easyJet.com:
"85 of 135 ordered aircraft will be used to replace ageing aircraft as they leave the fleet and return to lessors, with the remaining aircraft used to continue easyJet’s existing strategy of capacity seat growth of between 3% to 5% per annum."
So with 3 - 5% expansion then the vast majority of recruitment will probably be covered by MPL's on the tagged scheme and the experienced pilot recruitment scheme.
Certainly the numbers entering the CTC pool will continue to exceed the number leaving for some time.
"85 of 135 ordered aircraft will be used to replace ageing aircraft as they leave the fleet and return to lessors, with the remaining aircraft used to continue easyJet’s existing strategy of capacity seat growth of between 3% to 5% per annum."
So with 3 - 5% expansion then the vast majority of recruitment will probably be covered by MPL's on the tagged scheme and the experienced pilot recruitment scheme.
Certainly the numbers entering the CTC pool will continue to exceed the number leaving for some time.
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Can anyone explain how the BSc hons degree programme runs in more detail? How to go about securing the loan, is it through Middlesex university or CTC?
I have looked on UCAS and the Middlesex university website and cannot find a course code or anything.
Thanks
I have looked on UCAS and the Middlesex university website and cannot find a course code or anything.
Thanks
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Hey folks,
I was just wondering what the current state of affairs is with the Wings pool, anyone like to offer anything?
My total guess is that the pool must be in the 250+ region by now which will surely be impossible to empty this winter with it constantly being topped up, easyJet opting for a DE recruitment campaign and as far as I know no rumours of new partners.
So anyone just recently finished willing to give their approximate hold pool number (assuming that you are given one)?
Cheers
I was just wondering what the current state of affairs is with the Wings pool, anyone like to offer anything?
My total guess is that the pool must be in the 250+ region by now which will surely be impossible to empty this winter with it constantly being topped up, easyJet opting for a DE recruitment campaign and as far as I know no rumours of new partners.
So anyone just recently finished willing to give their approximate hold pool number (assuming that you are given one)?
Cheers
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My mate is currently swimming and says there are about 70-80 at the moment, reducing to about 20-30 in the next few weeks after about 50 get allocated to EJ type ratings starting in the next couple of months.
Absolutely less than 250+, though the pool is most unlikely to 'empty' completely.
Absolutely less than 250+, though the pool is most unlikely to 'empty' completely.
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8 months a long time in NZ!? Seriously guys that's nothing. When i was there i went to NZ three times over the course of the wings programme. First trip home after 7 months was to complete the first set of ATPLs in BGS. Then back to the tron for another 5 months to complete SE phase and ME IFR phase. Back home again to complete second set of ATPLs an IR in Bomo. Then back to NZ for a third time to complete ME CPL. Probably spent over a year there in total. By my third trip the "commute" to NZ was effortless. Not that the new guys I travelled with would have agreed! 
12 months still wasn't long enough. I was the last ever old school Modular cadet to complete his CPL there. End of an era sadly. 
Got 200 hours flying (50 hours more than new guys) at £9,000 less! Bargain!
Seriously guys 8 months is nothing and I know its hard work but it is a flying holiday most of the time. Enjoy every minute of it as it goes by very quickly! I doubt you'll get that sort of flying experience when you're with an airline. I dont with exception to the odd visual circuit at PFO and FAO.
Thoughts go out to the guy who did the PFL lately. Practised it many a time but never did one in anger. Was so expecting to see SFDeath-trap as the culprit but looks like one of CTCs newer Da20s. SFD caused my heart to skip a beat on a couple of occasions.
Do what the rest of us did. Fly, drink, leave the Maoris alone and enjoy the local student population if you know what i mean!
Oh and say hello to 101 for me! Met roulette was always fun in that place!
12 months still wasn't long enough. I was the last ever old school Modular cadet to complete his CPL there. End of an era sadly. Got 200 hours flying (50 hours more than new guys) at £9,000 less! Bargain!
Seriously guys 8 months is nothing and I know its hard work but it is a flying holiday most of the time. Enjoy every minute of it as it goes by very quickly! I doubt you'll get that sort of flying experience when you're with an airline. I dont with exception to the odd visual circuit at PFO and FAO.
Thoughts go out to the guy who did the PFL lately. Practised it many a time but never did one in anger. Was so expecting to see SFDeath-trap as the culprit but looks like one of CTCs newer Da20s. SFD caused my heart to skip a beat on a couple of occasions.
Do what the rest of us did. Fly, drink, leave the Maoris alone and enjoy the local student population if you know what i mean!
Oh and say hello to 101 for me! Met roulette was always fun in that place!
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Only 70-80, wow that seems surprisingly low. The sums are not adding up somewhere but if that's the figure then great news for the Wings cadets.
It's just that I met a guy a few months back who finished mid 2012 and started his TR for eJ beginning of this year and he reckons he was A) one of the last for 2013 and B) CTC were trying to grow to 30 cadets a month as he finished. That's the reason I thought the pool must be quite large by now. I guess either CTC isn't getting the numbers through they wanted or they are placing plenty of cadets elsewhere, let's hope it's the latter!
All the best.
It's just that I met a guy a few months back who finished mid 2012 and started his TR for eJ beginning of this year and he reckons he was A) one of the last for 2013 and B) CTC were trying to grow to 30 cadets a month as he finished. That's the reason I thought the pool must be quite large by now. I guess either CTC isn't getting the numbers through they wanted or they are placing plenty of cadets elsewhere, let's hope it's the latter!
All the best.
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Originally Posted by Stocious
My mate is currently swimming and says there are about 70-80 at the moment, reducing to about 20-30 in the next few weeks after about 50 get allocated to EJ type ratings starting in the next couple of months.
Originally Posted by planedrive
As of pretty recently, approx 80 in the hold pool, 50 being taken by end of October.
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From the latest batch to enter the hold pool there will be people joining approximately every month. Max per month is 18 people, but in the next 5(ish) CP's there are tagged cadets for Monarch, BA and Flybe so somewhere between 12-15 per month... all rough estimates!
From the latest batch to enter the hold pool there will be people joining approximately every month. Max per month is 18 people, but in the next 5(ish) CP's there are tagged cadets for Monarch, BA and Flybe so somewhere between 12-15 per month... all rough estimates!
