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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 15th Mar 2013, 21:12
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If that were the case then airlines would stop taking cadets from CTC
Well Thomson have. For that very reason.

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and new airlines wouldn't be signing up for CTC to provide their ab-initio training.
And which new airlines would these be then?
Is that true? How do you know?
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Old 16th Mar 2013, 01:11
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No Reality Tell me how many cadets have monach taken over the last 3 years Compared to Ezy.
If you mean Monarch, I believe it is around 55 in the last 24 months with more earmarked for this year. No idea how many "Ezy" have taken on. If the percentages suggested above are true, it would presumably be 2,695!

Your comment on unsecured loans shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics. If you do not pay the loan back regardless of who you are or what your financial situation was, the home is reposessed. Period
I am not sure what you are on about! Do you understand the difference between an unsecured and a secured loan? Unless your quote displays your customary lack of attention to detail, an unsecured loan is not by definition secured on anything. A secured loan by definition is just that, secured on an asset of equal or greater value than the loan being offered. Your understanding is therefore completely wrong (what a surprise!) If the applicant fails to repay the loan as scheduled, the loan company goes to the guarantor to either make up the shortfall in payments or to make the payments in full. It is only when the primary borrower and (not or) the guarantor both fail to satisfy the schedule, that the charge against the property may be invoked. This is why the guarantors financial ability is assesed as part of the application process. So your statement is just patent nonsense. Repossesion would only be a consideration when both borrower and guarantor default on the contractual obligation.

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Old 16th Mar 2013, 01:27
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Is CTC still able to fill each intake, or are they any starting/running with less then the normal allotment for a full course ?
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 12:56
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Not true StevieW, Thomson have taken cadets from CTC this year.

The Wings course starting in April is yet to be filled.
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Old 17th Mar 2013, 17:43
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Thomson definitely haven't taken cadets from CTC this year. Their last intake of cadets were laid off for a period but subsequently re-employed. Currently only Monarch and Easyjet have taken cadets so far this year.

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Old 17th Mar 2013, 21:24
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Thats my point, monach only take a minority of cadets, therefore your views do not represent the majority. May be you should make that clear when you are selling the CTC dream
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 15:19
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Halfofrho

If you mean Thomson didn't take cadets from CTC in the year 2013 then you are quite correct.

If you mean the year of 2012, then you are wrong. They took 12 cadets from CTC. 9 of those cadets were offered permanent contracts. They all started in February 2013.

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Old 18th Mar 2013, 15:55
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Yes I was saying that they havn't taken any cadets from CTC this year 2013, directly responding to what was previously said:

Not true StevieW, Thomson have taken cadets from CTC this year.
Weren't the guys that you're talking about the ones who were stood down after their summer contract ended and subsequently re-employed?
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Old 18th Mar 2013, 17:49
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Yes that is correct. They are now on permanent contracts with reduced salary, I think 80 percent for the first 5 years. It will be two weeks on two weeks off from November to March as far as I know aswell.
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Old 19th Mar 2013, 08:24
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The rumour is 2014 at the earliest for cadets. Weather that's a tagged scheme or open to all is still not known by most.
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Success rates

Hello,
I really want to become a pilot, and was wondering what the rates of success of people applying to getting into to program's such as CTC Wings cadets or Oxford Aviation academy. Also, I know they say that no experience is required, but does having for example a PPL increase the likelihood of acceptance onto the programme significantly?
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 00:06
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About 5% of people that apply pass CTC selection, of which 98% pass the entire course of which 100% have been placed by an airline (who are not currently in the hold pool).

Not much advantage of having a PPL except for being able to show that you like flying. Only a minority of students per course have significant flying hours behind them. One thing to note is if you have a PPL some of the foundation course could be refunded to you depending on your ability which would be assessed during your initial flights in New Zealand.
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This 5% you speak of is from the hay days when a cadet was tagged from the start.

I'm sure this cannot be the case now, courses are getting bigger and selection is tough but not traumatic. The maths is fairly straight forward for example. If only 5% of potential wannabes could pass this then something is wrong with the education system!
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5% sounds epically tough! Does anyone else have a guess or estimate at the rate of success?
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You guys might be right, i'm just quoting the information I was given at the last open day.

There are definitely more people on each course, but there could also be many more applications compared to 7 years ago...?
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Hello everyone,

I just passed my phase 1 for CTC and I've been invited for the aptitude test (and hopefully interview) on the 2nd of April. Being completely honest, I'm very passionate for flying and I think I know what I'm doing. The problem is, I've been seeing that people are saying that not many people pass...? I mean, does the fact that I'm 18 and about to finish A levels have anything to do with it? It'd be nice if someone replied!

Thanks!
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Firstly, good luck with the selection day. It's tough but certainly an interesting experience.

I don't see that your current status would be a disadvantage. What I will say is that they're going to want to see evidence of times in your past when you worked as part of a team and decision making skills etc etc so it would be good to provide examples of that from being at school. Any extra-curricular activities that you have done that promote these skills would be good to talk about too.

Hope that helps!
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Marandinho,

Be sure to have a good knowledge of the Airline industry and what a pilot actually does. You'll definitely be asked.

Also I wouldn't be too worried about pass rates. At my interview day there were 7, 3 got to the final interview and I think everyone else was asked back in 6 months who didn't make it. I would try not to get stressed out about possibilities of success beforehand and just be yourself, do your prep and do your best.

Best of luck!
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Seems easy jet will mostly source their new pilots from other airlines next year as direct entrants, and scale back on the cadet recruitment. Where will ctc send their 360 odd cadets from 2012/13?
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Old 28th Mar 2013, 19:54
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Where'd that info come from spider_man?
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