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Old 11th Jun 2009, 03:12
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What did it cost you to get into the CTC hold pool & what have you got in return?
With patience he will almost certainly get his break into the industry through CTC. As you are aware there is very little happening globally right now. The latest news from CTC is 70 placed through flexicrew, 16 permanent placements to Aer Lingus and a number of flexicrew opportunities in the pipeline, especially in Australasia, which is potentially a huge opportunity in itself.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 11:40
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Just pm'ed you Beak in relation to what you posted.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 12:39
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Cheers FBF I've received it.

a number of flexicrew opportunities in the pipeline, especially in Australasia, which is potentially a huge opportunity in itself.
Don't be shy, what are they? Will they take JAA qualified pilots in Aus,NZ and the pacific Islands? Or are they still 'very much in the pipe line'?

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Old 11th Jun 2009, 14:04
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That was just a summary of the news they recently emailed out. However I would hazard a guess Australasia is Jetstar who they already have a relationship with. CTC also mentioned the Middle East and I would guess Fly Dubai, which would also help explain the new 737 NG sim.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 14:42
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there are some easyjet SFO's heading over to NZ to fly for Jetstar, only a small number mind you. We've heard rumbles of possible 6 months in the southern hemisphere during their summer/our winter on flexicrew, but nothing of any substance yet.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 14:59
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If they are SFOs at EZY it is irrelevant really to the CTC holdpool. In fact it IS irrelevant. If they could get FlyDubai onboard on the other hand that might be of some weight. If it doesn't happen within the next year though I fear for the guys just finishing that the damage might be done. IF it was to happen how cyclical is aviation in the Middle East? Do they have a relatively busy recruitment period in the 'winter' months to ramp up for the 'summer'? Or is it a fairly constant flow? Here's hoping.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 15:14
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It is irrelevant yes, just thought I'd mention it as it is to do with the flexicrew. I can't help think that flydubai as a start up, will be a little nervous about taking low hour'd cadets, much as Jet Republic are. The cadets have just been sent an email about IR renewal, the fact they are thinking about this already is rather worrying!
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 15:28
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I agree, I don't think that FlyDubai or JR will take low houred trainees. Yeah I would imagine an IR renewal is on the cards if the pool is at 60 with 12 cadets a month entering.
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Already? IRs start expiring in August...
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August? How's that? If the pool is 60 and 12 are finishing a month that takes it back to January.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 16:18
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You enter the hold pool at the end of AQC, not after IR so if there is a wait between those two phases, your IR expires when you have been in the pool for less than a year
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 17:30
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That'll be expensive for them keeping everyones IRs current. And I'd say it's going to be almost a certainty for every trainee that finishes for a long, long time given the rate at which the pool is growing and the way the industry is going. At least it is some free flying!
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 17:51
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It won't cost CTC anything. The cadets will be paying. The cost is as yet undecided.
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Old 11th Jun 2009, 18:19
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It won't cost CTC anything. The cadets will be paying. The cost is as yet undecided.
According to CTC, no-one has yet needed to renew their IR whilst in the hold pool, and have also stated (verbally, admittedly) that they would ensure we were kept current in the hold pool. Can you clarify your source?
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I can also confirm what Zippy Monster says is correct.
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Thats what i heard to, unoffically.
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I told you Kerosine, pride comes before a fall. Unbelievable. By the sounds of it people are going to need to renew in a couple of months unless airlines break the habit of a life time and hire in June-August.

Aren't you all there? Why don't you ALL know?
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Can you clarify your source?
Yep - e-mail from the company.
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I have not received the email as I am still in New Zealand working through VFR flying. We were given the information about the IR renewals approx 6 weeks ago. Just out of curiosity, when was the email sent? I'm wondering CTC have given us incorrect information or if things have changed in the last 6 weeks.

Edit: Disregard above, I have checked the latest email update and you're absolutely right, apologies for wasting thread space!
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I agree, I don't think that FlyDubai or JR will take low houred trainees. Yeah I would imagine an IR renewal is on the cards if the pool is at 60 with 12 cadets a month entering.
Yes, it feels like a long shot but in my experience, there is just no telling. Jetstar has already taken low hour cadets for its Vietnam startup.

Fly Dubai have 50+ aircraft on order, it would not surprise me in the least if they make a beeline for reliable and well trained low hour cheap chappies. Perhaps likewise JR, they may need experienced crew to get up and running, but once the experience guys have developed the knowledge, training and worked through the snags in the operation I don't see why they wouldn't be looking at low hours guys.

As always, it is anybodies guess, arguments for and against, and whatever is in the pipeline will be apparent in due course
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