The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.
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A basic disclosure is the most basic form of criminal record check you can have done. For some reason it's called Disclosure Scotland, but it is valid for all UK residents. For more information and online application see here: http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/. From memory it costs £20.
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A BASIC disclosure is a very basic criminal record check that simply highlights any cautions or convictions you have to your name that you still have to disclose (i.e that are not 'spent').
Stick 'disclosure scotland' into google or similar and you'll get all you need.
*Or follow the link posted by Potential*
Stick 'disclosure scotland' into google or similar and you'll get all you need.
*Or follow the link posted by Potential*
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Sweet just noticed that via Google
I have the most hardcore of all CRB checks already
Still going back to my orig post i have no PDF from CTC telling me what to expect on my P2 day - just ahve to go on the info supplied on PPrune by you wonderful people
I have the most hardcore of all CRB checks already
Still going back to my orig post i have no PDF from CTC telling me what to expect on my P2 day - just ahve to go on the info supplied on PPrune by you wonderful people
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Remember you do not need a BASIC disclosure to pass the CTC selection. On your application for CTC it asks:
If when you come to have the CRB (Criminal Records Bereau) check you are found to have withheld this information, I can't imagine they wold be best pleased.
Due to the nature of this position, we will be required to carry out certain security checks on you.
The following is part of that process and must be answered.
The following is part of that process and must be answered.
Have you any reason to believe that you would not be acceptable if a security check were made on you?
Yes
No
If you answered yes, please specify.
____________________________________________________________ ________
Yes
No
If you answered yes, please specify.
____________________________________________________________ ________
If when you come to have the CRB (Criminal Records Bereau) check you are found to have withheld this information, I can't imagine they wold be best pleased.
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woksam: From the FAQs on the Disclosure Scotland website:
I got mine in around 14-21 days mate - nothing to worry about.
2.4: How long does it take to get my BASIC Disclosure
A: If you have a clear criminal history then we will always get back to you within 7 days. If you have not received your certificate within 7 days then we are doing further investigation into past convictions we have found. These convictions are likely to impede in your ability to gain entry to any sort of flight training programme.
A: If you have a clear criminal history then we will always get back to you within 7 days. If you have not received your certificate within 7 days then we are doing further investigation into past convictions we have found. These convictions are likely to impede in your ability to gain entry to any sort of flight training programme.
I got mine in around 14-21 days mate - nothing to worry about.
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Hi, just wondering if anybody knows what its like to take your partner out to new zealand with you? Are CTC accepting of this?
During my phase 2/3 one of the CTC pilots said he had taken his spouse out there for a month, so guess it's ok.
In the introduction the CTC lady gave us, she said that you can do this, but it can be pretty boring for spouse if she/he can't find work, and you as a cadet pilot haven't much free time - lot's of study / flying at a moments notice etc.
During my phase 2/3 one of the CTC pilots said he had taken his spouse out there for a month, so guess it's ok.
In the introduction the CTC lady gave us, she said that you can do this, but it can be pretty boring for spouse if she/he can't find work, and you as a cadet pilot haven't much free time - lot's of study / flying at a moments notice etc.
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Ruth is the partner of a CP63 cadet. I'm sure you'll have seen our replys on there about partners and how theres stuff in the welcome pack on partners.
Basic disclosure was with me 2 days after the payment was made... very strange that they have taken their time with you.
Basic disclosure was with me 2 days after the payment was made... very strange that they have taken their time with you.
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I think its possible!
Does that work?
By the by to add to my previous post on partners, you might be bored because your partner will be very busy flying and learning etc.
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By the by to add to my previous post on partners, you might be bored because your partner will be very busy flying and learning etc.
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Spouses in New Zealand
I'll admit to being over here with my wife - CTC have no objections to it at all (they seem to take the attitude that you can do whatever you feel will best assist you to keep your mind on the not insignificant task of learning to be an Airline Pilot).
There are, however, one or three things to bear in mind...
1. Work Visas - Not a snag if under 29 - you can get a backpackers type arrangement. If over 29 Look on the NZ immigration website at the skill shortage lists: if your wife has an appropriate skill, she'll be quids in; if not, it can be a lot trickier, though companies can sponsor people to meet a specific skills shortage (and even then Immigration do their utmost to get in the way).
2. Accommodation - You can share the provided accommodation (I think there is a charge of $70 per week at Clearways towards heat/light/power). Obviously being cooped up in a smallish room is not for everyone, but it is very helpful to stick with your CP for teambuilding / group learning reasons. Individuals have been known to arrange their own alternative accomodation at their own expense (don't know if there is any refund of course costs towards this though).
3. Training schedule - CTC runs a flying and groundschool programme all week, including weekends from Dawn (0630ish) to Night Flying, published the night before - don't expect to be able to plan jaunts around the countryside in advance. You can book leave, subject to approval, if you want to, though when the vagaries of the local weather are taken into consideration this can cause people to drop behind their course mates.
Personally, I've found that comng over here as a couple has worked out really well, but the warning of being bored in the absence of finding work is definitely a fair one - Hamilton is not the most happening of world destinations...
There are, however, one or three things to bear in mind...
1. Work Visas - Not a snag if under 29 - you can get a backpackers type arrangement. If over 29 Look on the NZ immigration website at the skill shortage lists: if your wife has an appropriate skill, she'll be quids in; if not, it can be a lot trickier, though companies can sponsor people to meet a specific skills shortage (and even then Immigration do their utmost to get in the way).
2. Accommodation - You can share the provided accommodation (I think there is a charge of $70 per week at Clearways towards heat/light/power). Obviously being cooped up in a smallish room is not for everyone, but it is very helpful to stick with your CP for teambuilding / group learning reasons. Individuals have been known to arrange their own alternative accomodation at their own expense (don't know if there is any refund of course costs towards this though).
3. Training schedule - CTC runs a flying and groundschool programme all week, including weekends from Dawn (0630ish) to Night Flying, published the night before - don't expect to be able to plan jaunts around the countryside in advance. You can book leave, subject to approval, if you want to, though when the vagaries of the local weather are taken into consideration this can cause people to drop behind their course mates.
Personally, I've found that comng over here as a couple has worked out really well, but the warning of being bored in the absence of finding work is definitely a fair one - Hamilton is not the most happening of world destinations...
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Thanks so much for the advice, it has been very difficult to find anyone who knows from experience what it is like or if it really happens much.
I suppose its up to me now as to whether it will work for me personally. I only have a degree, i'm not trained in anything specific for a job. I think I would want to be living in the accommodation with my partner so that he has the support of his fellow cadets.
As regards to the flights involved, did your wife manage to get the same flight as you?
Thanks again, Ruth.
I suppose its up to me now as to whether it will work for me personally. I only have a degree, i'm not trained in anything specific for a job. I think I would want to be living in the accommodation with my partner so that he has the support of his fellow cadets.
As regards to the flights involved, did your wife manage to get the same flight as you?
Thanks again, Ruth.
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Ruth and Greenfreddie
I am in the same boat wondering the same questions
I am at phase 2 and 34 yrs old
Both my wife and i have good careers in the uk but if i get through then one option we are looking at is her coming out with me hence this thread is very useful - keep it coming
Further options include
She stays here and takes leave from her career to come out for several 1 week holidays throughout the 11 months - in this case i reckon she would move out of our rented (yes we still rent Malvern is too expensive even for a prof couple with no kids) and move in with friends as a lodger etc.
We plan our first child such that she is able to take maternity leave (9mths of it!) at the same time?
She comes out with me and finds work for 11months
This is hard because cadets have to routinely return to the UK dont they?
I dont get through selection in which case we all remain as we are
Its certainly difficult but by reading posts on here it is clear to see that many people have been through a lot worse than we are facing. I mean i read one chaps account and he had a fmaily including kids and ended up selling his house etc - hardcore
Barry
I am in the same boat wondering the same questions
I am at phase 2 and 34 yrs old
Both my wife and i have good careers in the uk but if i get through then one option we are looking at is her coming out with me hence this thread is very useful - keep it coming
Further options include
She stays here and takes leave from her career to come out for several 1 week holidays throughout the 11 months - in this case i reckon she would move out of our rented (yes we still rent Malvern is too expensive even for a prof couple with no kids
) and move in with friends as a lodger etc.We plan our first child such that she is able to take maternity leave (9mths of it!) at the same time?
She comes out with me and finds work for 11months
This is hard because cadets have to routinely return to the UK dont they?
I dont get through selection in which case we all remain as we are
Its certainly difficult but by reading posts on here it is clear to see that many people have been through a lot worse than we are facing. I mean i read one chaps account and he had a fmaily including kids and ended up selling his house etc - hardcore
Barry
