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Old 13th Apr 2008, 11:00
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That's certainly interesting.. wonder which airline it is..

maybe it's Pacific air trying to make sure that they get enough cadets!

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Sounds about right as I do believe they have orders for aircraft.
Wonder how the holding pool is at the minute with airlines going out of business, pilots been laid off and cost cutting schemes coming into place.

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Old 13th Apr 2008, 12:18
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Even though the 9 main airlines that CTC supplys to are large airlines I would have thought they are taking measures to survive. It's possible cadets get a job with an airline then get laid off. Only time will tell.
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Anyone know what happens to the bond if you are laid off during the 7 years you are bonded to an airline?
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Remains your responsibility but payments cease I believe until you get another job.
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so does the airline you were working for transfer it over to the next airline you work for?
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No idea... it's a good question, never thought about it to be honest.
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Doubt it.

You would need to try and get the new airline to pick up the debt, which I don't think would happen, maybe if you were getting another partner airline to employ you.
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I wouldn't have thought the WINGS cadets are worrying too much
From what I can tell, there's no guarantee of a job. So far they have had 100% employment rates, but if they haven't signed a contract to say they absolutely have to employ you, I don't think you'll rate highly on their priorities list when it comes to cost cutting and reducing their staff numbers.

I'm counting on the fact that in 18 months we'll have hit the trough and will be on the way up again. Ride out the storm in NZ!
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Sorry to change the subject slightly, but with regards to the bond do HSBC authorize it and then dump the £60k into your bank account.. and then you pay CTC installments for the bond from that money? Or is it done differently?

I guess i could wait a few days to find out but i'm curious!

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Okay I don't work for an airline but I do work for a major engine provider for them. If both ourselves and GE still forecast massive increases do you really think the airlines don't forsee that growth as well?
DJ, when you're talking of contracts worth millions with RR, GE and P&W, they not forecasting for the next year/18 months, they're considering the next 5 years, 10 years. Its the short term employment crisis that we need to worry about, not the long term growth of the aviation industry that affects RR etc.
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cheers for the responses, its good to know its not a lost cause!
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Old 13th Apr 2008, 17:23
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Question

Could someone specify that which are the airline CTC places Cadets with and how is this placeing of cadets desided, does Cadet have anything to say in that decision
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Old 13th Apr 2008, 17:57
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Lentäjä,

Basically, when you are ready to go for a job, they look at what jobs are available and see what your preference is. They then decided which airline suits you better and recommend you for the airline based on the culture of the airline etc.

You can refuse to go to the airline if you don't want to, but you will just be put into the employment pool until you are recommended for one.
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@dj - I emailed Daphne a few weeks back asking if I could get some feedback, more out of curiosity than anything else and she said we'd be getting some feedback at the meet & great/development day. I'm just intrigued to know how each stage went as I felt that I must've only scraped through S3. It would be nice to hear otherwise. I also get the impression that the meet & great/development day (I've heard it called both) would be an oppurtunity for CTC to explain to us how to get the most out of the course etc.

@kerosene - I wasn't as vocal first time around, think I was afraid of appearing overpowering. It didn't help that one of our group members didn't turn up so there were only 3 of us. It was little things that the assessors picked up on, unconscious things which I didn't realise I was doing. I looked down a lot (mainly because I was scan-reading the exercise) and said I'd give the others time checks even though I had my back to the clock. In the second exercise we had a box of KNex and had to make something 'practical' and I didn't have a great deal of input mainly due to being short of ideas. We made a gearbox and I made an axle which ultimately we didn't use. It was mainly little things which they failed me on.
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phase 4

Hi,

I have my phase 4 this Thursday. Anybody else got the same? and if so, which hotel you staying in the night before?
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Phase 3 Next Week!!!!

Hi, i have my Phase 3 next week, can anybody give me any advice!!! thanks !!!!!
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Old 15th Apr 2008, 11:10
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Know the partner airlines, have good general knowledge on aircraft, have examples for teamwork and leadership, oh and wear a tie!

Have a scan through the thread, loads of bits mentioned in the last 10/15 pages.
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DJ is correct, they have indeed changed. I had new ones for my phase 3. They still assess the same qualities and they're really fun - nothing to worry about.
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Penny,

When is you're Phase 3? Mine is Thursday 24th and i'm pretty terrified. I've been reasearching loads of stuff but I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed and can't possibly cover all bases!
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