The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.
Join Date: May 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I did the GAPAN test less than a month before I did stage 2. I do believe it helped.
They tests are not exactly the same, although they are very similar. I found CTC's tests to be easier then the GAPAN ones.
They say that familiarisation with the test can only improve your score by a max of 1 point but I found that it helped more by just giving me that extra bit of confidence to relax and perform as best I could.
Where you really get your money is the debrief. The people who do the GAPAN tests have been at the height of aviation. The Captain who did mine used to be a training Captain at BA. They can give you some very good advice and guidance which is invaluable.
I would highly recommend the GAPAN tests, £150 is a drop in the Ocean compared to £60,000!
They tests are not exactly the same, although they are very similar. I found CTC's tests to be easier then the GAPAN ones.
They say that familiarisation with the test can only improve your score by a max of 1 point but I found that it helped more by just giving me that extra bit of confidence to relax and perform as best I could.
Where you really get your money is the debrief. The people who do the GAPAN tests have been at the height of aviation. The Captain who did mine used to be a training Captain at BA. They can give you some very good advice and guidance which is invaluable.
I would highly recommend the GAPAN tests, £150 is a drop in the Ocean compared to £60,000!
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rustington, West Sussex
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Tommy 604,
Trust me fella 27 is not too old even for going modular. I'm 26 and with only 53 hours under my belt am trying to organise a cdl for the hour building and distance learning. I anticipate this to take around a year, give or take a month here or there, and save for the CPL whilst studying. There is no reason why I cant save that in a year. Then possibly a loan for the ME/IR.
If you generate a plan and can stick to it anything is possible. Just takes focus and commitment. I know of so many people doing it the same way and some alot older than you and I. 27 is not too old by any stretch of the imagination. In fact my old instructor had his first flying LESSON at the ripe old age of 37!!! He now flies for FlyBe and got that position at 41, just some food for thought!! Maybe that doesnt happen that often but it does happen so just feel confident that, for the time being, you have time on your side.
Good luck and I might bump into you on the flight deck one day!
Rob152
Trust me fella 27 is not too old even for going modular. I'm 26 and with only 53 hours under my belt am trying to organise a cdl for the hour building and distance learning. I anticipate this to take around a year, give or take a month here or there, and save for the CPL whilst studying. There is no reason why I cant save that in a year. Then possibly a loan for the ME/IR.
If you generate a plan and can stick to it anything is possible. Just takes focus and commitment. I know of so many people doing it the same way and some alot older than you and I. 27 is not too old by any stretch of the imagination. In fact my old instructor had his first flying LESSON at the ripe old age of 37!!! He now flies for FlyBe and got that position at 41, just some food for thought!! Maybe that doesnt happen that often but it does happen so just feel confident that, for the time being, you have time on your side.
Good luck and I might bump into you on the flight deck one day!
Rob152
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rustington, West Sussex
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Having said all that I do work with a 20 year old who is 2 months out of Oxford and has a job flying A320s with BMI starting next month 
I try to use this as inspiration!!
I try to use this as inspiration!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Phase Two
hi everyone, i have few questions for phase two veterans, few details i cannot find in this thread.
First of all about "hands" test. How does it work exactly - i mean is there one picture displayed at time and you need to decide whether is it right or wrong like in cockpitweb test? Or there are three pictures displayed like on www.pilapt.com websit? In this case what is the verbal instruction and how are you expected to react? Pressing left or right cursor key or any other way?
Also is the joystick you use there an analog or digital one? I mean does the angel you move the stick is reflected in reaction of an indicator like in proper PC joysticks? How does it work on deviation indicator? I mean does moving stick forward moves the cross up or opposit? Does it differ during the last test combined with counting and shapes?
Thanks in advance
First of all about "hands" test. How does it work exactly - i mean is there one picture displayed at time and you need to decide whether is it right or wrong like in cockpitweb test? Or there are three pictures displayed like on www.pilapt.com websit? In this case what is the verbal instruction and how are you expected to react? Pressing left or right cursor key or any other way?
Also is the joystick you use there an analog or digital one? I mean does the angel you move the stick is reflected in reaction of an indicator like in proper PC joysticks? How does it work on deviation indicator? I mean does moving stick forward moves the cross up or opposit? Does it differ during the last test combined with counting and shapes?
Thanks in advance
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: NZ
Age: 40
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This is my first post but i have read through this forum with much interest and would say that the tips and advice have been invaluable to get me through to stage 4 and then hopefully New Zealand in the new year, mostly due to the fact that you have more of an idea what is going to happen and so are more relaxed. This is my top tip for CTC, relax and you shall prosper.
Milan- hands, 3 pictures, you have to key in the number (0,1,2,3) of them which satisfy the verbal statement eg "POSITIVE left hand square" so look for the ones which have a square in the left hand. Tip for if the statement is negative, eg " NEGATIVE left hand square", bit difficult to get your head round in the heat of the moment! just look for squares in the other (right) hand and key in this number, this saves thinking time.
For the DI test the required deflection of the joystick to keep the lines in the centre varies as the test goes on ie the controls become more and less effective throghout the test, use the practice time before to get to grips with the direction of the controls.
Just a few points regarding stage 3, i was asked no technical questions further that what aircraft to two of the partner airline opperated and events affecting the industry. Much of the interview was taken up with me talking about my life up to date, make sure you can justify all the decisions you have made in this regard.
Milan- hands, 3 pictures, you have to key in the number (0,1,2,3) of them which satisfy the verbal statement eg "POSITIVE left hand square" so look for the ones which have a square in the left hand. Tip for if the statement is negative, eg " NEGATIVE left hand square", bit difficult to get your head round in the heat of the moment! just look for squares in the other (right) hand and key in this number, this saves thinking time.
For the DI test the required deflection of the joystick to keep the lines in the centre varies as the test goes on ie the controls become more and less effective throghout the test, use the practice time before to get to grips with the direction of the controls.
Just a few points regarding stage 3, i was asked no technical questions further that what aircraft to two of the partner airline opperated and events affecting the industry. Much of the interview was taken up with me talking about my life up to date, make sure you can justify all the decisions you have made in this regard.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UK
Age: 42
Posts: 174
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
great to hear something about this CTC course. i am on the stage 2 of the selection process on october 9th and this thread has given me more of an insight into what to expect.
as im driving down from the west midlands..i kinda think it would be best to get a hotel for the night before so im fresh and less stressed from the drive down.
anyone else goin to this stage on 9th october???
as im driving down from the west midlands..i kinda think it would be best to get a hotel for the night before so im fresh and less stressed from the drive down.
anyone else goin to this stage on 9th october???
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Belfast
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Getting a hotel the night before is a VERY good idea. Doesn't help to start the day by being stressed out stuck in traffic or getting lost on the way there.
Loads of nice B&Bs in Christchurch, about 15 mins away from CTC by taxi. I recommend Stour Villa.
Stu
Loads of nice B&Bs in Christchurch, about 15 mins away from CTC by taxi. I recommend Stour Villa.
Stu
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hamilton NZ
Age: 46
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All 4 Stages passed...................check
JAA Class 1 Medical passed.........check
Disclosure sorted.......................check
Finances sorted.........................not yet...november
Insurance sorted........................not yet...november
New Zealand.........January 2008.......Here I come
JAA Class 1 Medical passed.........check
Disclosure sorted.......................check
Finances sorted.........................not yet...november
Insurance sorted........................not yet...november
New Zealand.........January 2008.......Here I come
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: With my head in a sandbox!
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Pilots are allowed to fly up to 900 hours per year, limited I think to 11 hours per day (?????). How these hours are spread depends greatly on what kind of flying you are doing and who you fly for.
Average age out here at the moment is about 24 at the moment. Youngest guys out here are 19.
Average age out here at the moment is about 24 at the moment. Youngest guys out here are 19.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Surrey (NZ 7th November CP55)
Age: 47
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
no idea what it is right now.... but when i get there in november.... 31 
I dont want to hear you young un's calling me pops, or old man, or anything like that
I dont want to hear you young un's calling me pops, or old man, or anything like that
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SW England
Age: 38
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Much has been said in the media over the past few months about pilot fatigue and the associated flight-duty rules which should be implemented. I read in one article that flight time limitations will be enforced by EASA when they become an EU Ops regulation next July. This will no doubt affect existing operating regimes.
"The maximum flight-duty period in draft legislation is 13h for a one or two day sector, with a potential extension of 1h that operators may use no more than twice a week. The maximum flying hours within any consecutive 28 day period will be 100, with 900h the annual limit."
Turner, A., 2007. Duty Time. Flight International. 172(5098), pp9.
"The maximum flight-duty period in draft legislation is 13h for a one or two day sector, with a potential extension of 1h that operators may use no more than twice a week. The maximum flying hours within any consecutive 28 day period will be 100, with 900h the annual limit."
Turner, A., 2007. Duty Time. Flight International. 172(5098), pp9.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I passed stage 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy it's ridiculous!
I have to work out how to go to Southampton for stage 4. Anyone has any suggestions for accomodation?
P.S. did any of the guys that when on the 12th passed? hope you all did had a great day !
I have to work out how to go to Southampton for stage 4. Anyone has any suggestions for accomodation?
P.S. did any of the guys that when on the 12th passed? hope you all did had a great day !
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Norf
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well done on getting through stage 3. The easiest place for stage 4 accomodation is probably CTC's Dibden manor if there's availability. They should have sent you some details for it when they confirmed you got through. If not ask them about it.