TheoAD

What is the average age of the cadets that get taken up??

thanks!

RS999

I don't think there is any hard and fast rule to average age of people being taken on by CTC Wings. I'm 29 and will be 30 two weeks after I start CP57 but I've also heard of 19 year olds and every age in between being selected.

Selection is based on your ability to learn to become a Commercial Airline Pilot and at each Stage your performance against a standard, albeit very very high, not your age.

I would imagine though that CTC have to think very carefully about the upper age limits (of which there are none anymore) due to the employability of a Wings Cadet by their sponsoring airline. These airlines have to be confident that you will be employable for as long as possible but it's a fine balance between how long you will be able to be employed for and what life experience you will bring into this career.

Shakuri

Hi all, just found out I'm through to stage 2! I've said the earliest i can start is july next year, so I am on hold for the moment, when do you reckon they will contact me to come? Thanks!

Barcelona cadet

Hello !
Just found out that I passed phase 2 I have to go back in september for Phase 3. In the email that they send me they said that I'll have to be there at 8:45 but does anyone know when does it finish? I need to book flights to come back.

Thanks

RS999

My Stage 3 ended at approx 1400hrs although I waited around until 1630hrs to hear my result as I was provisionally booked on Stage 4 the following day.

greywind

Phase 3 can finish at the latest about 5. It depends on your afternoon interview slot. I'd finished by 1 and some people were there till 5.30.

The best thing to do is just email CTC and ask them, they won't mind discussing things like that with you.

BornEvil

Barcelona, would your phase 3 happen to be on the 5th of september? Because that is when mine is, if so lets have a little chat on msn to share preperation and ideas,

Nick

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Captain Spam Can

I remember on my stage 3, we were asked who had flights to catch so they could be given the first interview slots, CTC are very good.

Virginlady

Although you might not want to sit an extra hour waiting i found that being second in my interview gave me a chance to speak to the first applicant and ask what to expect. alot of the info i got came up again!!! personally i found that quite useful.

Barcelona cadet

Thanks for your answers . The last flight to Barcelona from Bournemouth is at 16:35 I'll call CTC and ask them .
In the email that they send it says "The day will consist of a selection briefing, two group activities, and an interview"
Can anyone that has been there recently tell us a little bit more??

P.S. I have to go on the 12th

mallinderjb

I have just received my e-mails detailing my schedule in NZ and I was wondering if anyone knew when you discuss how many hours of the foundation course you need to do?

I have 50 hours PPL and plan to do at least another 5-7 before I leave on 5th December.

They have scheduled meto start phase 2 in April so will I hang around until April once up to speed on the foundation or is it possible to start the phase 2 a little sooner as I think I would only need around 10 hours if any to get up to the standard of the othet cadets doing the foundation?

Know it depends on how you fly etc but I would love to not have to wait for a few months before starting phase 2 flying?

Any help is very much appreciated.

Niagra1

Hi Mallinderjb,

You recieved a schedule already? ok now i am worried..... I go, or am scheduled to go on the 7th November, Got me medical, got me finance in place just waiting for the Disclosure doc to come through (should be no worries there)

Did it go to your CTC mail account? (cant access it at work.....)

Anyone else from CP55 got a schedule? been trying to get hold of the insurance people, but no joy so far....

Cheers

Niagra

Virginlady

An answer for the Barcelona Cadet.

the first thing you will do is introduce yourself to other applicants and CTC. Nothing to worry about there. you will then be split into groups of four and given two group sessions. The first is to see how well you interact with other people. you will be given a scenario where your ship is sinking and you can only take a few items from a list given to you. there are no right or wrong answers to it but make sure you have your say but also listen to the other applicants in your group. The second exercise involves building something. Again it is how you interact with each other. This task as with the other lasts 30 mins and you will have 10 minutes planning 10 mins building 5 mins silence ( which can be amusing as everyone pulls some interesting faces) and a further 5 mins finishing off. make sure you dont come across too domineering as they really dont like it!!
then you have the interview. this will be with a pilot and a HR woman/man and can last up to 80 mins.
Questions that will probably come up include:
why do you want to be a pilot?
why do you want to fly commercial rather than military?
why have you decided to become a pilot now?

The pilot will then ask a few questions including:
what airlines do CTC work with?
what planes do any of their partnership airlines fly
what is the difference between airbus cockpits and boeing?
etc etc etc.

This phase is really to see if you have a good knowledge of aircrafts and a general interest as well as seeing if you have the attributes of a successful pilot.

i hope this helps

virgin lady

mallinderjb

Yeah it came through my CTC account.

It said CP55 halfway down the e-mail but the subject and all attachments are for CP56 and have my correct dates of arrival etc.

I'd given them a call?

greywind

I got a CP55 schedule sent I think. I do remember reading one at least.

I think it was in with all the documents you get on the "what happens next email"

Niagra1

ill check when i get home.,.....

if not ill give them a call.

cheers

RS999

Jamie......I've got a CP57 schedule mate. I'd be getting in touch with CTC pronto if you can't find/have not been emailed one.

bjkeates

Just to clear a couple of things up:

Niagra1, don't worry. You're not going for three months yet. There's plenty of time for CTC to send you stuff about course dates, schedules, etc. If it gets to a month before and you haven't received anything then maybe drop them an e-mail, but certainly don't be getting worried about that yet. Just keep checking the post every day!

mallinderjb - how many hours of the foundation course you can cut short will probably depend on how you perform when you get out there, but don't go out there assuming it'll be too many. It's something I believe they will consider on an individual basis. Since they have got rid of the short foundation course, I'm sure you won't be the only one with a few hours under your belt thinking you're capable of moving on a bit quicker than those who start with 0 hours. I honestly don't know what their plans are for people in your situation. My advice would be to save the money you'd be spending on your extra 5-7hrs before you leave, you'll probably find it will make negligible difference when you begin your flying in NZ. I'd advise you not to expect to be able to jump through the foundation course in 10 hours because you almost certainly won't. Even the short course guys didn't do that when the short course existed. As an example, the navigation flights for the current course (including the CPL qualifying cross-country) come to over 17 hours on their own and I very much doubt you'd skip any of them. That's all just my 2p-worth though, best thing to do is just see what happens when you get out there.

SA242

bjkeates, hows uk? havent you finished out here? Lucky!!

PAJ

Just to re-enforce what bjkeates said, to think you will get the Foundation done in about 10 hours is very ambitious indeed! The course is now integrated, and therefore there are some very specific requirements that CTC must meet in terms of spending a certain number of hours doing certain exercises. Also bear in mind that they are not just looking for PPL standard flying out here - on my course, 4 of us have PPLs with hours varying from 55 to nearly 90 and we are all finding the flying tougher than that we have done before. In terms of hours credited from previous flying, I am not quite sure how that will work for you guys. At the moment CTC are trying to get up to date on hours and have had CAA approval to allow current ICAO PPL holders credit some hours across to a maximum of 50% of those you have logged, but that does not necessarily mean you will automatically get hours credited for your experience. It depends on how you fly, how much IF time you have logged, how much solo x-country you have and whether you have a Night Rating I think. For example, I had about 65hrs on my PPL with about 12hrs solo x-country, 2.2hrs IF and a Night rating - I have had about 25hrs chopped from my Foundation taking into account I need less of the IF time than those who have no IF/ NR (who seem to be getting about 23hrs credit). By the time I finish Foundation, I expect to have logged about 44hrs including my CPL qualifier. If CTC take many more than 25hours off your foundation (meant to be 69hrs), you have done very well indeed! Bear in mind also that NZ procedures and orientation takes some time to get used to.

I could be completely wrong here but I think that it is CTC's intention eventually to get all cadets to do the full Foundation once hours are caught up. I only say that as we were under the impression we would do the whole course regardless of experience until they got the CAA approval - I think the course is designed to work that way. I agree that you would be wasting your money doing another 7 or so hours before you come out here - the only thing I would advise is get a BFR done if you are about to lose currency as I think this is a requirement of having any hours credited - a current ICAO PPL.