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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 8th May 2008, 15:33
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Basic Disclosure is a Criminal Record Check to show CTC that you'll be able to obtain an airside pass when you complete training.
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Old 8th May 2008, 15:35
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A basic disclosure is the most basic form of criminal record check you can have done. For some reason it's called Disclosure Scotland, but it is valid for all UK residents. For more information and online application see here: http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/. From memory it costs 20.
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Old 8th May 2008, 15:35
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A BASIC disclosure is a very basic criminal record check that simply highlights any cautions or convictions you have to your name that you still have to disclose (i.e that are not 'spent').

Stick 'disclosure scotland' into google or similar and you'll get all you need.

*Or follow the link posted by Potential*
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Old 8th May 2008, 15:35
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Sweet just noticed that via Google
I have the most hardcore of all CRB checks already

Still going back to my orig post i have no PDF from CTC telling me what to expect on my P2 day - just ahve to go on the info supplied on PPRuNe by you wonderful people

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Old 8th May 2008, 15:56
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Remember you do not need a BASIC disclosure to pass the CTC selection. On your application for CTC it asks:
Due to the nature of this position, we will be required to carry out certain security checks on you.
The following is part of that process and must be answered.
Have you any reason to believe that you would not be acceptable if a security check were made on you?
Yes
No

If you answered yes, please specify.
____________________________________________________________ ________

If when you come to have the CRB (Criminal Records Bereau) check you are found to have withheld this information, I can't imagine they wold be best pleased.
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Old 8th May 2008, 15:58
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On the topic of BASIC disclosures, has anybody applied for one and received it? If so, how long did it take? I applied for mine nearly two weeks ago and I've had nothing yet!
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Old 8th May 2008, 16:23
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Anything to worry about woskam?
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Old 8th May 2008, 16:24
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Haha not that I know of! I just assumed (because of my lack of criminal activity) they'd get it done and sent out pretty quickly.
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Old 9th May 2008, 09:37
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woksam: From the FAQs on the Disclosure Scotland website:

2.4: How long does it take to get my BASIC Disclosure
A: If you have a clear criminal history then we will always get back to you within 7 days. If you have not received your certificate within 7 days then we are doing further investigation into past convictions we have found. These convictions are likely to impede in your ability to gain entry to any sort of flight training programme.


I got mine in around 14-21 days mate - nothing to worry about.
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Old 9th May 2008, 09:44
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Gar, that had me worried a little then! I can't believe they write that on their website! Cheers for the info though
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Old 9th May 2008, 13:35
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Just for the avoidance of doubt of anyone looking in - I made up that FAQ and response!
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Old 9th May 2008, 14:32
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You haha!
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Old 9th May 2008, 14:47
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Hi, just wondering if anybody knows what its like to take your partner out to new zealand with you? Are CTC accepting of this?
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Old 9th May 2008, 16:40
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Hi, just wondering if anybody knows what its like to take your partner out to new zealand with you? Are CTC accepting of this?

During my phase 2/3 one of the CTC pilots said he had taken his spouse out there for a month, so guess it's ok.

In the introduction the CTC lady gave us, she said that you can do this, but it can be pretty boring for spouse if she/he can't find work, and you as a cadet pilot haven't much free time - lot's of study / flying at a moments notice etc.
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Old 9th May 2008, 20:33
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Ruth is the partner of a CP63 cadet. I'm sure you'll have seen our replys on there about partners and how theres stuff in the welcome pack on partners.

Basic disclosure was with me 2 days after the payment was made... very strange that they have taken their time with you.
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Old 9th May 2008, 20:37
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I thought you were taking me a bit seriously Matt! If only you could have a sarcastic tone over the internet
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Old 9th May 2008, 20:49
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I think its possible!

Oooooo reeeallllly??? isss thaaaaat sooooo, areennnt youuu a bit of annnn einsteinnnn
Does that work?



By the by to add to my previous post on partners, you might be bored because your partner will be very busy flying and learning etc.
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Old 9th May 2008, 21:02
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Haha cheers for that Gary, think I'll go hang my head in shame for being rather gullible!
Maybe Poss could write us a book on internet sarcasm that we can all learn from?!
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Old 10th May 2008, 22:05
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Spouses in New Zealand

I'll admit to being over here with my wife - CTC have no objections to it at all (they seem to take the attitude that you can do whatever you feel will best assist you to keep your mind on the not insignificant task of learning to be an Airline Pilot).

There are, however, one or three things to bear in mind...

1. Work Visas - Not a snag if under 29 - you can get a backpackers type arrangement. If over 29 Look on the NZ immigration website at the skill shortage lists: if your wife has an appropriate skill, she'll be quids in; if not, it can be a lot trickier, though companies can sponsor people to meet a specific skills shortage (and even then Immigration do their utmost to get in the way).

2. Accommodation - You can share the provided accommodation (I think there is a charge of $70 per week at Clearways towards heat/light/power). Obviously being cooped up in a smallish room is not for everyone, but it is very helpful to stick with your CP for teambuilding / group learning reasons. Individuals have been known to arrange their own alternative accomodation at their own expense (don't know if there is any refund of course costs towards this though).

3. Training schedule - CTC runs a flying and groundschool programme all week, including weekends from Dawn (0630ish) to Night Flying, published the night before - don't expect to be able to plan jaunts around the countryside in advance. You can book leave, subject to approval, if you want to, though when the vagaries of the local weather are taken into consideration this can cause people to drop behind their course mates.

Personally, I've found that comng over here as a couple has worked out really well, but the warning of being bored in the absence of finding work is definitely a fair one - Hamilton is not the most happening of world destinations...
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Old 11th May 2008, 10:13
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Spouses in New Zealand

Thanks so much for the advice, it has been very difficult to find anyone who knows from experience what it is like or if it really happens much.

I suppose its up to me now as to whether it will work for me personally. I only have a degree, i'm not trained in anything specific for a job. I think I would want to be living in the accommodation with my partner so that he has the support of his fellow cadets.

As regards to the flights involved, did your wife manage to get the same flight as you?

Thanks again, Ruth.
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