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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 25th Apr 2008, 10:36
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@99

I am confussed firstly because Having not yet sat the 2nd phase I have recieved an e-mail title phase 2 results

and

having been told that 2 and 3 are on the same day why would CTC send me questions that they are going to ask me in an interview?

furhter more there are no instructions on this email just a inncorret title and an attachment.

To me it is a little confusing, but that's me
maybe I worry too much

Any way I will fill the form out and send it back

I was just wondering if anyone else has had this email prior to phase2/3
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 10:37
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although.....I'm confused....and it doesn't take much i'll admit but, today I recieved an email from CTC entitled Phase 2 results
The email subject for me was "CTC Wings Questions" and read:

Dear *Kerosine*,

Please find attached some questions to help you prepare for your assessment day. Please complete and return these to us at least a week before your assessment date so they can be reviewed.

Regards

CTC Wings Selection
Maybe they mistyped the subject? My questions had to be be filled in and submitted a week before stage 3, so hope yours is on the 29th May not April!


Edit: Just seen your new post. This is the standard process: Fill in application, up to a week later recieve acceptance and offer to book stage 2/3 which are now held on the same day. Up to a week later receive email asking to submit answers to these preset questions, then have stage 2/3.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 10:41
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Cheers

They have definatelyu made a mess of my email I received it on THursday the 24th April my date is 29th April and have absolutely no text in the email except from my application number.

Oh well!

Kerosine seen your edit thanks I will get on to them

Last edited by JBwannabe; 25th Apr 2008 at 10:46. Reason: more info on later post
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 10:51
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They have a few problems with emails they send...some receive emails telling them they passed an aspect of selection when indeed they failed
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 10:58
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Well

Let me look at it this way

If I have an email saying phase 2 results..........and on that email a questionaire for phase 3........then........by my reckoning............I have passed phase 2 and only have phase 3 to worry about this round........
.....no I didn't think so but heh you can but hope!!
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 11:17
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They took less than 24 hours to get back to me. I think we left the assessment centre at about 14:30 yesterday (it was a small group - only 4 of us) and I got my email at about 11:00 this morning
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 11:31
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Thanks for the replies all. For those saying you can defer entery, for how long? If I want to defer 6-8 months, by others posts that sounds like I will have to reapply in 6 months time. Anyone know for sure?

What is this about not finding jobs for cadets and having full courses? Are there lots of cadets who are not getting their advanced phase and into a job?
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 11:31
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I presume you have just received the standard email that would be sent out when phases 2 and 3 were on separate days, and you had passed phase 2. Someone has just forgotten to update the email system it would appear
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 11:43
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Thanks for the replies all. For those saying you can defer entery, for how long? If I want to defer 6-8 months, by others posts that sounds like I will have to reapply in 6 months time. Anyone know for sure?
As stated in my previous post, I know for sure if you apply for a place to start post Dec 2008 you will be asked to reapply later. To check this hasn't changed (unlikely since it's been only 4 weeks since I was told) you may want to email the CTC team.

What is this about not finding jobs for cadets and having full courses? Are there lots of cadets who are not getting their advanced phase and into a job?
I'm sure someone on the course could tell you if people are struggling to gain employment, although CTC has a 100% employment record to date (even through the post Sept 11 aviation recession). I'd say CTC is your 'safest' bet for employment straight out of an integrated school, however you need to be aware that there is a global slowdown, and employment positions will never be guaranteed.

edit: Read this thread for an insight into what's going on. It IS a PPRuNe thread so take certain posts with a pinch of salt, but there is some very useful information about.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 12:08
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"Ive heard that all courses are full for the next few months anyways so you wont be starting right away so will more than likely be able to defer a few months.

Strange that, seeing as they can't find jobs for cadets at the moment.

SJ777"


The latest CP to finish training, CP42, have all been placed with easyJet.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 12:21
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How much does the whole lot at CTC wings cadets cost then? I emailed CTC about this, but havent heard anything back. I know the course is 63,000 but what about the foundation and basic, plus accomodation and living for the entire course?

What is the average total loan that people are having to take? Any info on this would be good. I have read through the search results on this topic, and found info from one or two people. Curious to know what the average spend is over entire course, total cost for everything.

Thanks all.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 12:21
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"Ive heard that all courses are full for the next few months anyways so you wont be starting right away so will more than likely be able to defer a few months.

Strange that, seeing as they can't find jobs for cadets at the moment.

SJ777"
The latest CP to finish training, CP42, have all been placed with easyJet.
Nice one, another cheer for a well informed post over a speculative one!

Further from that, CTC has recently partnered with Pacific Airlines who will be leasing 30 Airbuses, I'm sure these complicated flight contraptions require a crew.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-23349,00.html

http://www.pacificairlines.com.vn/Ne...?Culture=en-US
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 13:54
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I passed selection last October and Im heading out in August on CP64, earliest available course when I passed then was february.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 19:30
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I defer'd my course by 3 months so I see no reason why you couldn't defer a little longer. As an earlier post has stated tho they are asking people to apply at a later date should your wish be post 2008.....

Costs to date:
Insurances 1100
Foundation 5250 (current exchange rate, NZD $13k)
Course 60k

Living expenses budget 5k per annum.
You forgot the tag line:

Getting through CTC selection - priceless!
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Old 26th Apr 2008, 07:24
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Things are slowing down quite considerably as can only be expected after such a prolonged period of massive borrowing - the economy now has to recover. How this affects Cadets in the medium term will be very interesting indeed. My understanding is that CP41 are in the most part going through type-ratings at the moment and CP42 all have places. Those going to EZ will have a wait as they are pushing their courses back a bit - it's looking like approximately a 6 month delay for type-rating but the beauty of CTC is that the cadets are there and ready whenever pilots are needed so that may change. BA too are taking a fairly steady stream.

The Pacific gig looks like it may be on the cards for cadets shortly, although moving out to Vietnam is not to everyone's taste. The bottom line is that things are still moving...just slowly. Hopefully the backlog won't get too large as that will start to create havoc for the newer CPs. CTC know this and will do what they can, but do understand that there is no guarantee of a job. My advice to those who are shortly to start the course is just get your head down and try to just look at the smaller picture initially - get the best results you can so your CV is as good as it can be.
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Old 27th Apr 2008, 16:06
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Hi all,

Anyone been through stage 2 recently? I have mine on the 30th (3 days!) so would like a heads up on if any of the aptitude testing has changed (as rumored).

Thanks
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Old 27th Apr 2008, 21:00
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DJ

hello mr DJ

any news how the group exercise have chnaged?
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Old 27th Apr 2008, 23:01
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hi guys anyone else know the new format of phase 3?
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 11:35
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Phase 2 - Can you help plz

Hi Fellas,

I have been invited for the phase 2. Can someone please tell me which physics and maths subjects I need to review? I have been out of touch with these subjects. I know about hand to eye co-ordination, memory tests etc.

Or

Is there a full description of latest phase 2 available here?

Thanks all.
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 11:47
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Just to inform you all a bit, there are job places available still upon completion of the wings course with CTC, in fact, the delays most cadets experience is due to them deciding to wait for a particular airline when that airline has no immediate need for pilots.

So far, if you wanted ANY job then after leaving the wings scheme there are 4 companies with which you could be placed.

Most people wait for easyjet because they have the best basing and loan repayment options and its quite normal that they are not taking cadets all year round.

When easyjet is not selecting you can still go through the BA selection process and try to get in, sadly it is apparently not easy and not many cadets get through to BA, some do though.

if both those options fail then there are 3 other companies that are offering places right now, most people don't take them in order to wait of another better offer but the argument of "no jobs for a while" is total nonsense for now.
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