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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 12th Apr 2008, 11:13
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Hey Lentäjä,

I haven't applied to CTC yet, but they held a seminar at uni that I went to last week, they told us there are currently ~800 apps per month. Doesn't tell you how many go to the selection days but might give you an idea how popular they could be.
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 13:00
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I have 30 hours. Those with no hours or few have been asked to explain why they haven't pursued flying sooner so have a good answer for that.
At selection day we had 12 people in our group on Phase 2, 8 for Phase 3 and 3 at Phase 4.
I think it is 50-75% of people don't get through application stage.
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:40
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Delighted to say I passed phase 3 on Thursday! On to phase 4 on 1st May! Anybody else who was there (10th April) it'd be good to hear how you got on.

In response to the thread, I only have a one hour trial flight under my belt! Like dj and poss said, as long as you can explain why you haven't done more flying, and you can prove your motivation to fly then experience doesn't matter.

For those of you have done phase 4, is it done on the 737 or a320 sim?
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:42
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Had my phase 4 last thurs and it was in a 737-300 fixed base. Wish it was in an A320 though!!

Good luck!
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:45
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Woskam many congratulations on passing, that's the hard bit over and done with!

Just as importantly, you've demonstrated that having very few hours in the seat isn't a bar on entry, well done
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:48
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Cheers leeus! Yeah I was kinda hoping for the a320 too. Shame it's fixed base but I guess you can't have everything! How did you go about preparing for it? Is it worth trying to read up on procedures etc? I know Daphne told us at phase 2 that you're not expected to be able to fly the thing without fault and that its more a case of showing you can learn and take on information etc, but it'd still be nice if I could look semi-competent!
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:48
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Can I ask those who have passed what you recommend in terms of preparing for the stages.

I studied law at University so haven't used maths in 3-4years as I've had no need. How did you prepare yourself for the maths? Mental Maths? And increasing your short term memory (these are the areas I fall down on a bit).

Cheers!
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:52
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Congrats woksam! (Who are you by the way?! haha) Good to hear some people got through!

I'm Gary, and unfortunately not going to be doing phase 4 any time soon. I have been asked to email them with my opinion on how the day went and they will reconsider me in 6 months. Obviously completely gutted about it but I guess I'll just have to get on with life for what will be the longest 6 months ever!

Oh yeah, and everyone at Glasgow Uni - what are you studying? I'm an ex-student of Aero Engineering
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:53
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Cheers Kerosine!

I must admit I was nervous about applying with so little experience, but quite a few people I've met over phase 2 and 3 have been in a similar position. I'm just really looking forward to phase 4 now, and then hopefully getting out to NZ on CP64 (providing I can wrangle my way out of jury duty!) or CP65 failing that!


Gary, sorry to hear that mate! I'm Matt...the short one haha! Try and take the positives mate, at least they've considered you for reassessment and you can have another shot at it. Best of luck! By the way, how much of the Rangers game did you get to see?
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:53
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woskam
You can't really prepare for it. Perhaps have a look at a picture of a 737 flight deck and be able to identify the main controls/displays. The best thing you can do is relax, ask lots of questions, tell the captain when you've realised you've done something wrong in the sim, and enjoy yourself!

It's an awesome day.

In terms of experience... I spoke to two guys at phase 4 who had made it there with zero hours. Not even a trial lesson. Just shows..
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 15:58
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Don't worry too much for the maths. Expect very basic calculs such as divide, multipliate, adition, Square roots....

An ex: An aircraft is growing up to 30 000 ft at 3500ft/min. He's currently flying at 20 000ft, how long would it take for it to reach 30 000 ft?
(and it's all multiple choice)

i.e 2 : 5 is the cube root of.... (Then 4 possibilities)

They provide pen and paper.
I've studied law and economics for 4 years and found it very easy.

Good luck
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 16:02
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Ah well in Matt! You might not be good looking enough for madonna in her netjet but you're good enough for CTC! Best of luck for Phase 4 mate.

There's not a lot I can do about it so I'll just have to keep motivated for October. Bit of a gutter. Heard from anyone else?

I think me and Anthony must have left our hotel a minute before Rangers scored the first, then we took ages at security so by the time we got to departures there was only 5 minutes left. Found out via Sky Sports News it was 1-0 and went mental, then heard we had scored a second and I was dancing about the airport! Every time I feel disappointed about CTC I just watch the goals and everything is better again!
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 16:11
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Yeah I saw the result when I got home and thought of you two still sat at the airport! Haven't heard from anybody else yet unfortunately, have you? Don't be too disappointed mate they obviously saw you had potential otherwise they wouldn't have asked you back for reassessment.

You're right there though, Madonna etc can stick it! Who wants to fly biz jets anyway!
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 16:16
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Has anyone heard of anyone who's got onto CP65 (September)?

I've heard they're not taking cadets for it at present, and putting people down for Oct instead. .. Not sure what's going on...
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 16:17
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Hi imarked,

thanks for reply have read that figure from somewhere else also. And that about 30cent are called for Phase2 based on application. Havent met anyone here going for the same day(7th May).
Good luck with your application once you apply
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 18:41
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i have just been wondering.....

is it often people get called back for phase 3? i mean does the majority of failures at this stage get another pop or is it a pretty good sign that they think you have what it takes?

cheers guys
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 19:03
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well i realise that.....

but i just want to know hoe gooder news it is? obviously its better than being told to not bother comng back but do many people get tld that?

also, how do they decide how long before reapplication? i have 12 months but i have ead figures of 6 and 18 on the forum?

all very confuzzling
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 20:07
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Pred...BBC Bitesize is your friend if you need to brush up on the long division/mulitplication. Have a look at how to multiply/divide with decimals as well. I spent about a week setting myself questions on paper and trying to answer them as fast as possible. A cliché I know but..
Fail to prepare...Prepare to fail!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/maths/number/
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 22:00
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I think with the september course they aren't taking anyone on as a way of getting rid of those back logged hours on the single engine phase.
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 23:38
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Jimmy

I failed S3 first time around, last May. Reapplied in November, had to wait until Jan for a free date, passed it second time around and then S4.

I'm off to New Zealand in June.

Keep the faith, I truly believe that if you are asked to reapply then they are 'looking' to get you through second time round.

First time I didn't do well in the group exercises but did a decent interview. Second time around I did much better with the group exercises (just ask Tamesy ) but felt I'd let myself down on the interview...still got through though.

I wouldn't be surprised if they looked at my performance over the 2 S3's I sat and passed me because of the improvements I made on the group exercises. I guess I'll find out more on my development day towards the end of May so I'll try and remember to give you some more feedback.

Just stick with it...I saw it as a positive as it'd give me a better chance of getting through second time around and allowed me to get a bit more money together.

Hang on, now where did that money go?!
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