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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 18th Oct 2007, 10:14
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In my interview they just asked "if we were sitting in the crew room now, what aviation related subjects would we be talking about?".

So I just gave a few examples of current events and that was that, about 3% of the interview.

The rest of it was spent giving examples of where I'd done this and that and the other.
Me too. I spoke for about 2 seconds on Pilot Fatigue and was told to move on, then got about 2 seconds in about the environmental impact of air travel and was told to move on then I spoke about the Open Skies Agreement between Europe and the Yanks.

I assume they kept moving me on to make sure I had researched something more than just 1 topic.
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 12:12
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:(

Hi guys

Well I got to phase 3 which i had yesterday. The day was enjoyable & the ctc guys are very nice.

I thought I performed quite well in the group exercises contributing and giving sensible ideas , maybe questioning others but remaining polite.I felt I showed a fair bit of leadership in the 2nd exercise too without being domineering.

In the interview i answered all the questions with good examples of teamship and leadership. I also answered the more technical questions correctly and in depth.

I was please with the day and my performance. I also had gained a 2.1 in a relevant disciplin from a leading university.

So i thought my chances were good. Untill this morning when i read my emails. I failed phase 3 somewhere.

Im obviously very dissappointed. Its clear CTC are a good organisation and the current CTC'ers were decent & i always got along well with all of them.

Now I have to look elsewhere. Good luck to everyone else.

Im just completly lost as to where I fell short.
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 17:51
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Following what De-fault said I wondered if there is any of the early CTCer's reading this who could give an idea of what life is like on an Easyjet/Thomas Cook etc. FO salary with a 60k loan looming over them??

I'm just about to finish uni and will not let financial issues stop me from flying, so will apply to CTC. The only thing that worries me is five years down the line what's the quality of life like?? And I know it's a long way off for me but like families and mortgage and stuff? anyone any experience (preferably encouraging!!) they could share?

Thanks,
Rob
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 18:20
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Stage 3 and 4

Marvin, I was there with you! Which group were you in? I am really sorry to hear that you didnt get it because when we were talking in the crew room it sounded like we all did really well! AdamLT, if anything mate,convey to them that your a team player and a leader and know everything about the job your going for,best advice i can possibly give you because every interview is different depending on your on life experience so far.
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 19:53
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you get through then geetea?
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Old 18th Oct 2007, 21:49
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Relief

Thankfully yeah, just one of those situations where you dont know how you got on until they tell you how you get on! You can only speculate on your weaknesses and strengths, do they give you feedback because im under the impression they dont even though you have forked out 170 quid for the privilage.For the record i was Graham in the blue group

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Old 20th Oct 2007, 13:18
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Having failed phase 3 myself I know first hand they do provide feedback to those invited to reapply, I don't know about what happens when they don't re-invite you but if you drop Mary Brown an Email asking her to help you improve yourself by telling you what happened I don't think she'll ignore you.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 13:20
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Barcelona, if you can get a better loan, maybe secured, with another bank then go for it but of you don't own any property it will be impossible to get that much money for flight training. As for the insurance, the advantage of Paul Jones is that they are in direct contact with HSBC and CTC so most of the paperwork gets sorted out easily.
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Old 20th Oct 2007, 15:32
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I'll be getting my insurance from PJIS for that very same reason Polorutz. Just need to sell my car as the insurances are not cheap!!!
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 18:41
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Cadet Program

Has anyone got there 60,000 pound back from the cadet program or getting there money back from monthly installments, can some one please explain to me in more detail about this Security Bond, i find the site quit low on info about this
Thanks
Ryan
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 18:49
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What do you want to know exactly Ryan?

You pay 60,000 for the bond. When you join an airline they repay this in 1000 a month tax free instalments for 7 years.

You can finance the bond however you like, most cadets get a loan specifically catered to the scheme provided by HSBC with an interest rate of 2.75% above the bank of England base rate for borrowing.

Which currently means at 8.8%, 60,000 over 9 years works out at just under 90,000 paid back to HSBC
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 18:56
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do they have a telephone number were i can talk to them as they do not reply to emails or so it seems it has been 6 days since i have sent them a mail
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 22:47
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Lynda Loveless
HSBC Bank PLC
17 The Marsh
Hythe
Southampton
Hampshire
SO45 6ZB
Tel: 08455 848379

HSBC will only entertain you for the CTC Wings Programme if you have a confirmed place on a course (as far as I'm aware)


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Old 21st Oct 2007, 23:04
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and what about for the cadet program?
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 23:25
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Mate, I highly doubt Linda will be able to give you all the information you require as she only really deals with those who have made it through each stage of selection and been offered a place. CTC give you loads of info at Stage 2 if you make it through the online application and will answer your questions there. As you are 16, you still have a fair amount of time to wait until you can apply. Read through these threads - long they may be, but much of the information you are looking for is on here somewhere. Also, the CTC Wings programme is the same thing as the cadet programme you mention.
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Old 21st Oct 2007, 23:31
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oh ok thanks paj, and do you know whats the average age of people who go, and if they go to uni first? and whats the housing like in both england and new zealand?
Thanks
Ryan
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Old 22nd Oct 2007, 00:05
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Average age is about 24 I would say. Most have been to uni, although this is not a pre-requisite to get a place but it does act as a good back-up in case you need/ want to change careers later on plus shows an ability to study to a more technical level. My degree was competely unrelated (Business Mgt and Economics!) but I felt it left me with the most options if I could no longer fly. The housing is fairly comparable to uni halls of residence. The rooms are single ensuite with a kitchenette thing and are either based in the centre Hamilton requiring you to drive to the airport (15mins) each day or just outside the airport perimeter under the final approach to runway 18. They are more than adequate with tv and internet and washing facilities. In the UK, B&Bs are used when doing the ground exams and I cannot shed light on the housing in Bournemouth as I have not got that far yet!
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Old 22nd Oct 2007, 00:31
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i honestly cant wait, im gona get a 3 years BSc Degree in Buisness like you in Dublin or in London then some were need the end apply to ctc, i already have 10 hours in a piper warrior so hopefully theyll like that for the interview, although its 5 years away im counting down the days,
sound like a good plan?
Im not really good at physics or Math but hey 5 years to study
Also for those of you in New Zealand or those who know whats the daily schedule like
Thanks
Ryan

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Old 22nd Oct 2007, 08:08
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READ THE THREAD. If you keep asking the same questions it will dilute the information, the main reason for there being a zillion pages!
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Old 22nd Oct 2007, 11:01
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ryan, you have a long way to go yet, seems like you are asking for information that you dont actually need yet, for one thing things could be completely different in 5 years.

My advice to you is to stop thinking about ctc at the moment, concentrate on getting to uni and getting the best degree possible and at the same time get some flying in. Near the end of your degree is when you want to start thinking about ctc.
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