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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 2nd May 2007, 08:29
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Cheers MATT. Have you joined BALPA as an associate member? It's free for trainees, you just need to fill out their form and include a copy of your APL letter confirming you passed selection, and a copy of you class 1 med. Worth it just for the access to their advice etc.
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Old 2nd May 2007, 11:45
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Flights to NZ

All been very helpful on this topic, thank you all.

One thing, when i was flicking through the trend i came across people talking about the costs of flights from Nz to the UK, does this mean we have to pay for the flights?

Thanks again for your help guys

Lee
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Old 2nd May 2007, 11:51
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Flights to UK/NZ

Lee,

Flights to NZ and back are paid for by CTC if they relate to course requirements. Therefore they send you out there and bring you back to attend the course in NZ or want you in the UK for exams. If you want to go back home during christmas etc, you pay...makes sense

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Old 2nd May 2007, 11:59
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You get two return trips to NZ paid for by CTC as part of the course - out to NZ, back to the UK for the first bit of leave and your first bunch of ATPL exams, then out to NZ again and back after the end of the NZ multi-engine phase.

There is the possibility to get back over the Christmas break if you so wish, but that does come out of your own pocket and it is expensive at that time of year - and the break isn't really that long. Some (like me) thought it was well worth it, others take the opportunity to explore NZ while the weather is good or just hang around Clearways and enjoy the sunny Christmas atmosphere! You don't get any other holiday as part of the course other than the specified leave periods back in the UK (i.e. there are no weeks off as part of the course when in NZ.) If exceptional circumstances do arise you can request leave, but you must be able to justify it and it mustn't have an adverse impact on your training - don't automatically assume you'll be permitted to have time off.
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Old 2nd May 2007, 17:58
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Here's how it works with Easy,

Say in an average month you net in your pay cheque 3000 after tax, 1000 of that will consist of the bond repayment to you, or rather to the bank. You haven't paid tax on that 1000, only on the 2600 ( ish ) gross you earned, so there's the benefit to you.

So as soon as the 3000 enters your account on pay day approximately 1030 will come back out again to pay off the bond at current interest rates, this is based on an amount of 65,000 pounds initial loan. That extra 30 ish pounds comes out of your taxed pay, on top of the fixed tax free 1000.
So from 3000 entering your account on pay day it drops to 1970 immediately.

Hope that helps, and ps yes, join BALPA!

WBV

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Old 3rd May 2007, 08:06
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MY / WBV

Not joined BALPA yet but def on the list of things to do before I fly out. I can't see that there's much of an argument not to is there?
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Old 3rd May 2007, 17:20
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Stage 3

I know i should not post this on this trend but, the other trend has no reply

Hello,

I passed my stage 2 on 30th may , and doing my stage 3 on the 15th may, is there anyone else doing stage 3 on this date?

Hope to hear from someone,

Regards Lee
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Old 4th May 2007, 08:56
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I thought I would just share some good news that I found out that would probably be applicable to a number of CTC cadets heading out to NZ:

We can claim our income tax back for this year assuming you havnt earnt over your personal limit of around 5,400 since 6th April this year.

Not sure though if we can claim it back straight away or if you have to wait until 5th April next year?

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Old 6th May 2007, 02:51
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Old 6th May 2007, 11:16
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CTC meaning

Wasn't it Cheaply Trained Captains? Feeding Easyjet with cheap pilots?? Or was that just a phase 2 joke?
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Old 8th May 2007, 10:46
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I'm sure LW once told us it was Crew Training Chiefs, but after various management changes is now meaningless. Plenty of other possibilities though.....
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Old 8th May 2007, 13:25
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CTC airline partners

Hi,

I'm preping for my interview, and looking at the airline partners. the CTC website only lists 7 (Easyjet, jet2.com, thomson fly, monarch, my travel, thomas cook and first choice) i've seen been told there are 8, is the 8th one BA????

Regards Lee
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Old 8th May 2007, 16:07
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Hi Lee,

Yes the 8th one is BA though it always is a questionnable one but Ive no idea why! I said it was a partner airline at interview and they didnt say it wasnt. Think I read in the literature that it is a parner airline, though they still do their own recruitment strategy, ie a full blooded interview/selection process.

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Old 8th May 2007, 16:30
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Hi Socloss, Lee,

I asked that in the interview and they said something like BA have a policy of only accepting cadets from integrated courses, so while CTC wasn't officially offering integrated courses they couldn't be official partners even though unofficially CTC ran a mock-integrated course approved by BA. Now I believe CTC is offering integrated and so BA is happy to officially be a partner.

Useful to have these kind of questions for the interview

stefan
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Old 9th May 2007, 12:19
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Question Practice Questions for CTC Phase 2

Hi guys,

I'm sure this has been asked before but does anyone know of any suitable practice questions available for viewing online in connection with my CTC Phase 2 Assessment Day on the 1st June? (Is anyone else going on this day at 13.00?) I've loacted the company NATS use which provides practice questions. Is this similar, or not?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Chris.
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Old 9th May 2007, 14:24
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CSutton - which questions are you talking about? The maths questions? Or the four brief essay questions?

If it's the maths questions, if you can handle GCSE arithmetic and get some numeracy test books for practice questions you will be fine. Have a look at Bill Handley's Speed Mathematics book if you have enough time. It's pretty good.

IIRC you get time at home to fill out then fax back the essay style questions. They are competency style questions and are very straightforward.

Stage 2 on the day is just maths and PILAPT.

May the 9th be with you.

Hmmm, that doesn't quite have the same ring, does it?
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Old 10th May 2007, 20:18
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Pilapt/Numerapt

Hi folks,

My first CTC-based post, and I aplogise if my question has been asked, or answered, before (did a search but couldn't find it).

I have the Cockpitweb Pilot Aptitude and numerapt software. I am enjoying the challenge of brushing up on my arithmetic after such a long time!

Does anyone know if the Cockpitweb software is a reasonable approximaion to Pilapt: the vendors say it is but they are bound to. Some of the tests are very similar to Micropat which I did a number of years ago, but are they relevant to CTC?

Also, would any successful CTC cadets be prepared to reveal some of their Pilapt scores: I'm thinking particularly of deviation indicator and frames?

Many thanks folks

BAC
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Old 10th May 2007, 22:21
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From what I've heard (I've not done the CTC tests yet) the one you really need to watch out for is the final test. If I remember what I was told correctly, then it is deviation indicator, listening for changes in a number sequence and watching out for certain coloured shapes with numbers all at the same time!! It certainly would be interesting if any successful candidates would be willing to share their scores though.
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Old 10th May 2007, 22:32
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Cockpitweb's software has the shapes and numbers on it-but not combined with the deviation indicator.

Its a test of capacity reduction whilst multi-tasking, and you'd be suprised how tricky this is when you actually try it. If you learn all the possible number sequences by heart this makes it all so much easier.

For e.g. if the difference between the numbers is 5, then the last digits in the countdown will have to be 9-4 or 8-3 or 7-2 or 6-1 or 5-0. These are the only possibilities. Similar sequences exist for differences of 2,3,4 etc. and there are not too many to learn them all!
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Old 11th May 2007, 03:17
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The last test is without a doubt a toughie!! best thing to do is break it down - its a capacity test in itself to be able to prioritise multiple tasks at once whilst still being able to actually do them. The best advice I can give is focus on the deviation indicator first. Keep this as centralised as possible at all times. Then bring the number sequencing in - memorising the sequencing might help but anyone who has the mental artithmetic standard CTC are looking for can count down through the sequencing. Work out what the next number should be before the computer tells you so you can match it. it's only when the number changes when you have to divert your attention completely to make sure you have the correct new numeric interval. This is where prioritisation comes in - you can always find the centre on the deviation indicator again, and you can just take the next shape as it comes, but once you lose the sequence once, that pretty much it - lose it early and you're outta there!!

The shapes are a peripheral vision thing - listen to what the computer tells you and first compare colours - you brain processes colours easier than shapes. If the colours match, then divert your attention to see whether the shapes match - if so, find the number and enter it!

There's no point anyone saying this is easy - FTE do PILAPT but do not include this test as far as I know because it goes beyond the standards they look for. I was fortunate to do well in this one (properly cocked up the hands though - only got 4 on that!!!) as my feedback said I stayed in the upper band for all parts of the exercise. Can't remember exactly but I think I got 10 hits and 4 misses. Don't hold me to that tho! Good luck those who have it though - its absolutely amazing over here and worth the struggle!
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