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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 5th Feb 2010, 16:48
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Could the 12 month clause be a recent addition to the CTC contracts? Or has it always been there?
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 04:43
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Thanks x933. Looks like you can also access the NZ CTC companies books... www.companies.govt.nz (free). Makes for some interesting reading. Especially who is benefiting from from this scam.... the CEO and directors/fees are Huge!!
Sad about the cadets that are going bankrupt and the instructors that are paid crap just to line the managers pockets.
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 05:20
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This is well unfortunate indeed.... !! But guys, managment making HUGE amount on the back of their people is not only happening at CTC...
When are we finally going to understand that this world is turning the wrong way!!!!
Seems like we all wanted it when we elected the wrong people to lead our nations.
This is where the American system will take us, a bigger and bigger gap between those who decide and those who simply execute.
Our Terms are getting worst but believe me, we are well above many of the people on this sad planet. Stop thinking just for ourselves, stop the massive consumption, Stop the CRAP TV and the insane Big brother or American Idole, stop byuing your food to Tesco or other crapy Asda, change your way of consuming, and the system may have a chance to change...

All this flexicrew shows one thing, we are not the god we thought we were, we are employed to do a job and that's it! How many times have I heard some guys complaining about strikes.... Well, strikes are sometimes the best option to make these basrd at the top understand that without their workforce they are nothing...

Stand up guys and please stop accusing the system! It is what it is because we let things happened... We are cowards
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 06:49
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Um OK Bob. What do you suggest we do?
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Old 9th Feb 2010, 13:45
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Decommissioned Russian tank + Turret reactivation + Shells = No more CTC
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Old 10th Feb 2010, 09:45
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How many intakes a year does CTC have onto the wings course. How many students do they tend to get on each course?

What will be the next CP course intake number...? is it in the 70's or 80's?
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 18:51
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Hey,

I think the yearly cadet rate is around 120.....each course has a maximum of 21 cadets (CP79 has 21/CP80 has 16) and they start every 2 months (give or take)

CP81 just started this week (today), just as CP80 starts to sit there first 7 ATPL theory exams this week....and as far as I know 82/83 are starting to fill up for start dates in in the next few months

;p
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 22:07
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Who is still mad enough to be signing up to any FTO at the moment?

Whoever it is must have made a mint telling fortunes. Only someone who can safely say that in 2 years there will be hundreds of jobs, and who can safely invest in this scheme, without any risk to their parents or own property etc should be signing up.
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 10:13
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Is that the open day on the 20th March?? If so it is at the Nursling Training Centre, where the sims are and now the where a 5 month ground school phase takes place (for the ATPLs) before going to NZ for 7 months

ps I am one of the cadet volunteers
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Old 2nd Mar 2010, 12:06
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I don't know, its mad! CTC have an open day down at Dibden soon and 250 are attending!!!! Yes two five zero!!! Madness total madness.

As usual they are after volunteers and again I shall go and spread the good word about what it is really like out there at the moment!! Then they can make their own minds up presented with all the facts not just CTC spin. If they then still decide to start, so be it.

I really really hope all the other volunteers do the same. I will be very disappointed if you don't. Just remember you are gambling with other peoples money and other peoples family homes! I implore you to be honest, brutally so with everyone that attends (when the situation presents itself!!).

I expect to be asked to leave Dibden at some point!! Complete free speech never seems to be that welcome.
I might make that 251 . Least you'll have some company at the bus stop!
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Old 20th Mar 2010, 17:17
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So today CTC had an open day.

Those who attended, apart from the sales blurb, any info on the current state of play, regards hold pool, future prospects etc.


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Old 20th Mar 2010, 18:09
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Any truth in the rumour that some cadet's final flight training report was 'altered' by a member CTC top brass from very good, to very bad - resulting in a missed opportunity at BA?
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Old 20th Mar 2010, 19:39
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That sounds very strange. I wasn't aware BA were recruiting? And haven't done so for some time....
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Old 20th Mar 2010, 20:18
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Wingdog

Care to name, or at least hint at, the source of the rumour? That might give some clue as to its authenticity. Notwithstanding the fact that BA haven't been recruiting for ages so it's either untrue or a very old rumour, it's quite a strong accusation to make without substantiating it further.
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Old 20th Mar 2010, 21:57
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Wingdog - and anybody else taking that rumour seriously: if something like that happened in CTC, the entire cadet body would be up in arms about it. FFS, the management are not trolls that live under bridges and spend their time trashing our cadet lives as some evil hobby! It's hard times for everybody but these kind of rumours just serve to breed suspicion and fear. We have enough of that already, what's the point.
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 00:10
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I totally agree with The African Dude , as I am a CTC Cadet at the moment.

Spreading malicious rumour like that don't, in my eyes, have any merit. Especially when they can't be backed up with some sort of proof or otherwise....
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 03:56
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From experience PR1 reports ARE altered from what your instructors write. I have also herd of a guy being upset at the end of training... So there may be "some" truth to the rumor.
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Old 22nd Mar 2010, 08:59
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For consistency, though, and to give the airlines a realistic impression of the cadet as a whole (so, not Mr. Perfect who can never do anything wrong and thus comes across as somewhat hard to believe). This, if anything, improves our marketability to the airline, not destroy it as this particularly gash rumour suggests.
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Old 25th Mar 2010, 09:14
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Just like some clarification.
Anybody know how many people in the following CTC hold pools
Holdpool 1: Completed training waiting to be placed
Holdpool 2: Complete the 6 month placement and back into Flexi pool with no work yet for this summer.

I know of 2 in Holdpool 2


Im just seeing if a recent claim is correct.

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Old 25th Mar 2010, 17:20
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At the recent open day i overheard a CTC guy say the hold pool was around 120. After placing around 40 guys with EZY the pool is now down to 80ish.

Don't shoot the messenger on this one, just passing on what i overheard. I don't know the specifics either. May be the case that alot were on flexi terms. I'm sure there are guys out there who'll know more accurate numbers than this.

I imagine the holding pool figure gets averaged up/down depending on who you ask!
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