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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 15th Mar 2007, 11:47
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try doing a search there are several threads about FTE and all of them contain the FTE v CTC debate... the flybe maps thread is also useful
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 12:03
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MajorYaw,

In response to your question, the HSBC branch is Hythe (near Southampton.) If you're unable to make it down there, because it is miles away for most people, once you've agreed the stuff on the phone they'll forward the forms to your local HSBC branch for you to sign and send back. That's how it worked for me and it was pretty straightforward.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 12:16
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Just a quick question. Exactly how much knowledge of the airline industry do you need to know for the phase 3 interview. Just the backgrounds and current issues of the partner airlines?
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 13:14
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The questions are generally geared towards your level of experience. A few example q's I was asked..

*Who are the partner airlines and what aircraft do they operate?
*How many hours a day/days a week can an airline pilot expect to fly?
*Pros/Cons of being an airline pilot?
*What will you do if you are not successful?
*Did you consider the military? if not why not?
*If you had to make an unscheduled landing due to a sick passenger, who else would this affect and what would be a result of this?
*How would you persuade cabin crew to continue if they were over their hours limit for the day?
*If your captain was disregarding SOP's, what would you do about it?
*What NAV Aids do modern airliners use?
*What is the main disadvantage of GPS?
*What are the differences between an Airbus and a Boeing cockpit?
*What typical destinations would a 757 fly to?

Im sure people will be able to add more, hope the above helps.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 15:04
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Cheers for that. That's a great help. Narrows down the multitude of information I was looking up.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 15:45
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HSBC

bjkeates,

Thanks for that. Didn't relish the thought of another major mission just to sign some forms, what with time off work etc.

Having said that, I've travelled further for the promise of a lot less than 60k, so what the hell am I bothered about!
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 16:45
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no problem, like i said its just an example you might not get asked any of them, no two people on our stage 3 got asked the same set of questions becuase its geared towards your level of experience. They might ask you completely different questions, for example one guy was asked "besides terrorism, what is the biggest current threat to aviation and why?"
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 16:47
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Yeh and i got asked if i was CEO of monarch, what steps would i take to ensure the long term prosperity of the company??!!!
RANDOM
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 17:05
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CTC are expecting you to have a reasonable grasp of the industry and its partner airlines. They are not looking for massive business and/or technical insight. If you have a decent general knowledge and do some reading around publications and the general press, you should be able to get up-to-speed on the topics of the day, and back history.

Google is your friend.

Preparing answers for specific questions is tricky. If you learn material in a very set fashion, you may find you can only recall it completely when it's requested in the fashion you learned it.

Better to draft your own summaries of the industry and the airlines in a way that's meaningful to you e.g. SWOT/PEST analysis, mindmapping or whatever. If you can talk to yourself generally about each area, this will help you think on your feet and be better prepared to answer any question. Even if you didn't learn a specific answer, your wider knowledge will let you work something out.

There's not always a dead right answer to their questions. They are looking for someone who can assimiliate, analyse, answer and justify.

If they think you BS-ing, they will push you and cross check you, so keep it real.

If you really don't have a clue, admit it. Just make sure you don't end up admitting it every time you're asked a question. You can't know everything, so don't sweat it if you're not sure at some point. Keep cool, keep it real!

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Old 16th Mar 2007, 16:09
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Does anyone know what the wait is between stage 2 and stage 3? I have my stage 2 in april and I was wondering if i was successful, how long would I have to wait to complete stage 3?
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 16:25
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It could be the next week if you're available. They offered dates to my stage 2 group immediately after we'd passed the PILAPT tests. They're pretty efficient in this respect.
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 16:38
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yeah also depends on when you are looking to start the course, i think theyre looking to fill dates as early as april at the moment.

i passed my stage 3 on tues and havnt got my stage 4 till 26th april which is 6 weeks away, but then again earliest i can start is july/august so there isnt really a huge rush.
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Old 16th Mar 2007, 16:42
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Guys: after my post on finance the other day, ive been to hsbc to sort out the loan 2day, and the figures i used were VERY worst case scenario!
Appologies for that.
So, for the bond + 12kNZ$, interest = 29000
Living expences, interest = 4700
i.e. around 34K.

HTH
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Old 17th Mar 2007, 13:22
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Does any one know if CTC provide laptaps, before you fly out to NZ? I read on cadetpilot.com they had there uniforms, equipment and a laptop at the meet and greet before they went out. Just wondering before i purchase one.
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Old 17th Mar 2007, 13:38
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Stage 2

Does anybody know at stage 2 if you fail the maths paper the (15 questions in 15 mins) is that it youve failed stage 2 regardless of how well you do in the pilapt or do they take you scores in the pilapt into conciderations? ie do you need to pass both the pilapt and the maths test?

any info would be much appreciated
rgds
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Old 17th Mar 2007, 14:18
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Captain Spam Can, CTC no longer provide laptops - you will need your own.
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Old 17th Mar 2007, 15:26
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jimbols6,

If you do well in the pilapt tests but just miss the grade on the maths one then you may still get through to phase 3 but you will have to resit the maths test.

It doesn't work the other way round however. You do not get a second chance at the pilapt tests. Unless of course you are invited to re-apply in 6 months time.

Don't worry too much about the maths. Just revise the necessary techniques and you should be fine.
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Old 17th Mar 2007, 18:08
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Pmrsmiffy,

thanks ive been worried about it cos i think i did enough in the pilapt to get through but then wasted all the hard work away by messing up the maths paper. Got a nervous a wait over this weekend but i find out on monday, thanks for your info
rgds

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Old 17th Mar 2007, 20:40
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can i just check, is there any cost for the stage 2?? i keep reading somethingabout 170 or so for stage 2, but i havnt had to pay on the ctc website when i made my booking for my stage 2 assessement??
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Old 17th Mar 2007, 21:15
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nickbanksy,

No. Previously applicants had to pay the selection costs at Phase 2. However, now you don't have to pay it until you have gotten to Phase 3. Something i've just had to do. 176.25 it was to be exact.

So, no need to worry about it just yet.
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