bigjarv

I can't recommend get a head for the sky enough. I really can't! Not so good if it is last min prep you need as you have to work through it. I mean it would be useful, but you need a bit of time for the full benefit. I think it took 3 days to arrive.

LessThanSte

Yes i meant to say that, £12 that could potentially be the best £12 youve ever spent. Google it and you shall find it. Pay for it, and it will come!

Chilli Corneto

This is a great book! I got it, read it, went through every stage of selection and was offered a place on a course.

Worked for me. Certainly not a bad investment IMHO.

Cheers

Chilli.

Yomomma

I used get a head for the sky for my assessment, and can’t recommend it enough for people who are attending a CTC assessment. The Maths assistance is what I found really useful for Phase 2; the questions really do prepare you for the test CTC give you.....and I felt that having not studied arithmetic since school it was a perfect way to scratch up my skills, which resulted in a clear pass of my Math’s section. I would also recommend the pilapt-prep software, very useful for the computer capacity test – you can’t practice this enough! For stage 3, this book gives helpful tips on the interview preparation and group exercises, giving good examples and tips which helped me through the day with far more confidence. Well worth the money when you consider the cost of the assessment and that you only get one shot at it, unless you get re-invited back!

Hank777

Hi everyone!

I applied for CTC Wings Cadets but few hours later I got e-mail that thay have decided not to take your application forward to the next stage. Actualy I have CPL and ATPL theory and I am bachelor of science.
Do you think that I have to apply for CTC Wings ATP or I am between this two options and I must do ME/IR first and than apply for CTC Wings ATP?

Thanks in advance!!!

Hank

99jolegg

CTC Wings is ab initio...i.e. no or very little flying experience.

CTC ATP is the scheme for holders of a CPL and IR. The ATP scheme is closed for the moment. I don't think it has been open since January 08 but could be wrong. I doubt it'll open for a while longer either, but that's only my guess.

At the moment you're between the two. Look at the website for details.

largegeorgejones

Hank! The above is absolutely right. You are between their requirements. Too much experience for one and too little for the other. Not sure the Wings ATP will be open anytime soon, given the current economic climate and all that!

Hank777

99jolegg and largegeorgejones, thanks for so fast reply.

Is my education (bachelor of engineering) appropriate for CTC Wings programe?

akindofmagic

Your education (i.e. your degree) is irrelevant for the CTC Wings Programme.
You will be eligible for the ATP scheme, if and when it opens, providing you have a CPL and current MEIR. However, you will not be eligible for Wings Cadets.

RobStob

Hi everyone,

I was just hoping someone could elaborate on the maths involved in the numeracy test and how best to prepare. I'm aware that it covers long division/multiplication/addition/subtraction and a couple of other things, but I'd really appreciate it if someone could provide a comprehensive list (to the best of their knowledge) so I know what areas I need to brush up on! I've been practicing all of the old school methods mentioned above, but I really don't want to leave any stone unturned or waste the time I have to prepare. Also, does anyone recommend an effective way of improving your mental arithmetic? It could really use a bit of speeding up. I've ordered that Get A Head For The Sky book; does anyone who's read this book know if approximately 2 weeks, or just over, will be enough time to absorb the contents and use it effectively?

I noticed it was mentioned that there is a form of pilapt software available in the public domain; does anyone know where to get this (or the best way to prepare for the test)?

Many thanks.

hellomynameisamelia

This is my first time on PPRuNe so sorry if this is wrong
I was just wondering what the benifits of getting into piloting via schemes such as CTC wings over things like modular training or studying at university on a course such as Air Transport Operations at the City of London University or Aviation Management and Operations at the London Metropolitan University. Any help would be great or some pointing in the right direction in terms of websites or documents. I am really enthusiastic about entering the aviation industry but would just like some advice
Thanks

99jolegg

Have a search around this forum, particularly the Sticky / Announcement at the top of the Professional Pilot Studies forum; it is a collation of the most frequented info.

The issue of flight training is a maze of subjectivity in that everyone's view is different in some way and there are many different ways to do it which makes for some pretty dull threads when it gets discussed over and over again.

That said, some perceived benefits of an integrated FTO like CTC is that 1) high standards that are recognised in the industry 2) a 100% placement record after training (so far, could well change in this economic climate). A third used to be the favourable finance system (unsecured loan) which has now been revoked by HSBC when the credit crunch tightened.

I'll make clear that they are just 2 of the perceived benefits....there are also many benefits for the modular route or another integrated FTO.

Don't rush into it...look at all of the info available here, do your research and then make your own mind up...ignoring the "I-did-it-this-way-so-it's-the-best-way" crowd.

Lastly, take note of the economic situation at the moment...there are a few useful posts here: http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...n-upon-us.html that you could look at. Take some with a bucket of salt, though. You don't want to rush through training to end up in a stagnant market with a load of debt. When will things pick up? Nobody knows but there are a lot of guesses floating about in that thread.

Good luck!

RobStob

Hi everyone.

Can anybody recommend the best way to prepare for the stage 2 numeracy test and also the best method of improving/speeding up mental arithmetic? I'm not sure what to revise and practice other than long division/multiplication etc. If anyone could provide a comprehensive list of the maths topics examined or simply elaborate on the numeracy test in particular it would be fantastic. I'm aware that the test has been discussed in previous posts, however there are certain aspects I'd like more information on.

Many thanks.

RobStob

Well I'm sorry if you think I'm being lazy, but I refute that. I know if may have appeared like that because I asked for a list, however that's only because after looking through the thread I wanted to know if there were any other things to revise other than those already mentioned. If that's all of what I need to revise then I'd already gathered that, so fair enough. I don't see how asking for advice on techniques for speeding my maths up is lazy, quite the contrary; I thought this would be the best place to enquire. Apologies if I appear lazy, I wouldn't want to give the wrong impression.

LessThanSte

Spend £12 on 'get ahead to the sky' (google), many on this forum have used and highly recommend it!

edmooriginal

Has anyone had an interview with Aer Lingus yet? I've got mine next week and could do with an idea of the general format of the day, hints and tips.

Chilli Corneto

@ RobStob:

If you can do long multiplication and long division without much hassle you will be able to do just about any maths in the selection. The trick is to know when to do the long multiplication and long division (unless it's obvious). Especially when conversions come up. % are easy peasy!! Nobody should struggle with Addition & Subtraction.

The 'Getaheadforthesky' book is great for the selection process. It definately works.

Also brush up on your square roots. Although I can't remember being asked to do one in the maths tests the Capt I was with on my sim check threw a stinker at me!!! The git!!

Not being very familiar with how to work them out I eventually came to an answer about 5 minutes later. I was only 1 away as well!

Still got through.

Best of luck!

Chilli.

T1000

Rob, the get a head book is legit. I got a copy when I went through and it really helped. There's a lot of first-hand experiences on PPrune but it's good to have a copy for reference. CTC interview is very much asking you about yourself, examples of when you overcame obstacles, low points, what got you interested etc. so it doesn't have the answers, but gives you good idea of the questions to expect..

I got an e-mail confirming the dispatch of it almost immediately. I was a little concerned considering it was only advertised on a naff website but it arrived pretty quick. I traced the order through paypal anyway.

Good luck
Ant

RobStob

Chilli and Ant, thanks very much for your replies. I have the book and I'm finding it very useful. It really highlights how much preparation is required for the interview and is a very useful tool for thorough self-assessment. I had the same concern as you, Ant, when I realised it could only be ordered through the website!

Bambe

Edmooriginal, well done for the interview... Do you know if it's on a permanent contract or through the flexi scheme?

Best of luck, I knew AerLingus was about to open a new base in LGW but I didn't expect them to hire some CTC cadets so soon.. That's very good.