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Well, congratulations Frabus 
I'm also still waiting for the screening call.. should be soon.
I received the mail saying I've been accepted for APC and I should do the assessment in december/january at the latest.
Let's hope everything goes good
I'm also still waiting for the screening call.. should be soon.
I received the mail saying I've been accepted for APC and I should do the assessment in december/january at the latest.
Let's hope everything goes good
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Don't worry guys, they are still calling, and as I've heard, they will be calling more pilots a long next year. In fact a few days ago, two friends have received the mails from CAE, about call within 14 days. The average of getting a feedback from them, is one month, but sometimes it happens, that it takes a bit longer, but if you comply with the profile they want, they will call you for sure, so don't worry, and think positive.
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Currently the time between finishing LST and beginning line training is now up to 4 months. So when you get offered the job, you won't receive a penny for at least 8 months.
Think about it.
Think about it.
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So, tell me, people reading your negative and pessimistic post must believe you and this bull**** just because you are saying that they will not earn a penny for 8 months? So a low hours pilot should decline the offer to start the type because of that? 
Anyway I know 3 guys who started the type this year (between april and june) and the less lucky started type after less than 2 months. The other two waited up to 30 days!
We should help each other instead of spread negativism in this forum. If you don want to help other and be helpful, just don't write here. Nobody is asking for your upsetting partecipation.
Anyway I know 3 guys who started the type this year (between april and june) and the less lucky started type after less than 2 months. The other two waited up to 30 days!
We should help each other instead of spread negativism in this forum. If you don want to help other and be helpful, just don't write here. Nobody is asking for your upsetting partecipation.
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Please guys there are some pilots from FR in this forum.When i had no job i said the same (Ryanair is the best and so on ). But we just want to inform you how the situation at the moment is. Nobody says go to FR or don't go there.
And no during the 4 months you are not allowed to work because they will call you for psct training in STN and BT to EMA and you have to go to there.
So again calculate 40-45k € for the rating and waiting
And no during the 4 months you are not allowed to work because they will call you for psct training in STN and BT to EMA and you have to go to there.
So again calculate 40-45k € for the rating and waiting
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Actually my post was probably one of the most helpful on this whole thread, as it's realistic and not given behind rose-tinted glasses. But of course, as a 27 year old you believe it's your right to fly a big shiny jet, so go ahead and join.
Sunji's post is a demonstration of how deluded these cadets are. No you cannot 'work somewhere else in the meantime', for one your 'contract' says that you can't, secondly as US787 states, you'll be back in the sim regularly to stay current. Thirdly, try finding an employer willing to take you under the knowledge you'll be leaving as soon as you're rostered line training.
Enjoy your 8+ months without payment, I hope you have wealthy parents to help you through this period. Don't say I/we didn't warn you.
Sunji's post is a demonstration of how deluded these cadets are. No you cannot 'work somewhere else in the meantime', for one your 'contract' says that you can't, secondly as US787 states, you'll be back in the sim regularly to stay current. Thirdly, try finding an employer willing to take you under the knowledge you'll be leaving as soon as you're rostered line training.
Enjoy your 8+ months without payment, I hope you have wealthy parents to help you through this period. Don't say I/we didn't warn you.
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Explain me why I should not believe it's my right to fly a "big shiny jet" Just because I'm 27. You don't even know my experience at all. I could have flown in excess of 3000h, and nowdays I think is enough to start. You could say in case I were 19yo and get fully paid the flight training by my daddy just like many of these little child, but anyway I think that it is not up to us to judge them.
For your information I have been working in general aviation for 3 years, and I'm really enjoying it, I love my job, but If I had the chance to start the type, I would cacth it up without thinking.
I have worked hard to pursue my dream, I have funded all the training by myself, I didn't want my parents to partecipate in financing and in the near future I won't ask them money, anyway I think it is my personal business and problem. So why should I believe that is it not my right? If it is not mine, whose is it?
I believe that you are more pessimist than realistic, or maybe my friends are just lucky. Why should I believe an unknown dude online while my friend are saying that it worths?
As i wrote, we don't need this your pessimistic view, "Don't say I didn't warn you". This sentence just made me laugh. Who are you? A benefactor or what?
If you are not interested in FR, just don't write here or I have to think that your life is so boring.
Explain me why I should not believe it's my right to fly a "big shiny jet" Just because I'm 27. You don't even know my experience at all. I could have flown in excess of 3000h, and nowdays I think is enough to start. You could say in case I were 19yo and get fully paid the flight training by my daddy just like many of these little child, but anyway I think that it is not up to us to judge them.
For your information I have been working in general aviation for 3 years, and I'm really enjoying it, I love my job, but If I had the chance to start the type, I would cacth it up without thinking.
I have worked hard to pursue my dream, I have funded all the training by myself, I didn't want my parents to partecipate in financing and in the near future I won't ask them money, anyway I think it is my personal business and problem. So why should I believe that is it not my right? If it is not mine, whose is it?
I believe that you are more pessimist than realistic, or maybe my friends are just lucky. Why should I believe an unknown dude online while my friend are saying that it worths?
As i wrote, we don't need this your pessimistic view, "Don't say I didn't warn you". This sentence just made me laugh. Who are you? A benefactor or what?
If you are not interested in FR, just don't write here or I have to think that your life is so boring.
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Please guys there are some pilots from FR in this forum.When i had no job i said the same (Ryanair is the best and so on ). But we just want to inform you how the situation at the moment is. Nobody says go to FR or don't go there.
And no during the 4 months you are not allowed to work because they will call you for psct training in STN and BT to EMA and you have to go to there.
So again calculate 40-45k € for the rating and waiting
And no during the 4 months you are not allowed to work because they will call you for psct training in STN and BT to EMA and you have to go to there.
So again calculate 40-45k € for the rating and waiting
You know that you have living expenses even if you are not working for FR? But WTF 15000€ more in 4/5 months is really too much. What is your lifestyle? Do you drink Champagne instead of still water?
How do people still believe these
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We don’t have to «believe» it blindly, we’ve BEEN THERE, we’ve DONE THAT.
You truly don’t get it, the wait for the TR-course to start is irrelevant.
What will truly make you feel the burn is time spent waiting for line training, furthermore how long you’ll be in that training hamster wheel once it starts.
A TR is worthless unless you get to 500 hours basically. Now, in the time spent between the course and waiting for your line training you’ll have to stay current on type; Guess what? FR won’t cover that, you as bogus-self-employed will.
In my case, I only had to wait a few weeks. But already back in 2015 there was a lack of trainers with hours to spare, so as you do; You end up spending countless periods of 5 days on standby in a random village somewhere you most likely don’t speak the language and the locals rarely speak English.
You will of course have the pleasure of covering all costs yourself HOTAC, travel and food.
I had to blow my credit card limit, then whatever peanuts I got from FR, I spent paying the bare minimum back to the bank. Just to avoid getting into even deeper
Congratulations your attitude already sucks, as you won’t accept friendly advise from those who have lived it.
Stay well clear of BS such as the “Swedish flight mafia” their propaganda revolves around what they managed to acquire by means of playing the “look at me in my bikini card.” That is not the life that awaits you, unless you’re a reasonably attractive female who has no quarrels about buying followers to get your completely unbalanced happy-go-lucky account up and running on IG.
You have ABSOLUTELY no experience in the actual business, but tell those who do to PFO because you, of course, know far better than us all.
In times as these, when the outlook is pointing up for pilots, it is worth to take in that it does NOT mean; a good time to join Ryanair. Quite the opposite. Our general situation has become better because people LEAVE FR and their rotten practices.
In droves.
If one is to join anyway, do so EYES WIDE OPEN. Listen to those who have gone before you, and be ready for the hurt. Also quite possibly be prepared to lose your passion for it all, as reality of the struggle sets in.
Financial difficulties caused by your “job” and no support from your “employer” is a fickle b@#ch.
You’ll just ignore what I’ve said anyway, as all those who are not applying to FR in this thread know nothing, and are pessimistic according to you.
It’s not pessimism, it’s reality for those who have been in your shoes at a earlier stage.
You truly don’t get it, the wait for the TR-course to start is irrelevant.
What will truly make you feel the burn is time spent waiting for line training, furthermore how long you’ll be in that training hamster wheel once it starts.
A TR is worthless unless you get to 500 hours basically. Now, in the time spent between the course and waiting for your line training you’ll have to stay current on type; Guess what? FR won’t cover that, you as bogus-self-employed will.
In my case, I only had to wait a few weeks. But already back in 2015 there was a lack of trainers with hours to spare, so as you do; You end up spending countless periods of 5 days on standby in a random village somewhere you most likely don’t speak the language and the locals rarely speak English.
You will of course have the pleasure of covering all costs yourself HOTAC, travel and food.
I had to blow my credit card limit, then whatever peanuts I got from FR, I spent paying the bare minimum back to the bank. Just to avoid getting into even deeper
Congratulations your attitude already sucks, as you won’t accept friendly advise from those who have lived it.
Stay well clear of BS such as the “Swedish flight mafia” their propaganda revolves around what they managed to acquire by means of playing the “look at me in my bikini card.” That is not the life that awaits you, unless you’re a reasonably attractive female who has no quarrels about buying followers to get your completely unbalanced happy-go-lucky account up and running on IG.
You have ABSOLUTELY no experience in the actual business, but tell those who do to PFO because you, of course, know far better than us all.
In times as these, when the outlook is pointing up for pilots, it is worth to take in that it does NOT mean; a good time to join Ryanair. Quite the opposite. Our general situation has become better because people LEAVE FR and their rotten practices.
In droves.
If one is to join anyway, do so EYES WIDE OPEN. Listen to those who have gone before you, and be ready for the hurt. Also quite possibly be prepared to lose your passion for it all, as reality of the struggle sets in.
Financial difficulties caused by your “job” and no support from your “employer” is a fickle b@#ch.
You’ll just ignore what I’ve said anyway, as all those who are not applying to FR in this thread know nothing, and are pessimistic according to you.
It’s not pessimism, it’s reality for those who have been in your shoes at a earlier stage.
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Wow. I actually had to re-activate my profile to get this off my chest after reading the "If you only have negative things to say, keep it to yourself" posts!
I did "my time" in Ryanair as well, and boy are you in for a surprise if you think the almost 30K is enough to complete all of it and get the career started.
So many things can happen! I have current friends in the company who have had to wait much longer that the 30 days, and a few even more than 4 months. And this was before the mass exodus a couple of months ago!
If you REALLY want to consider RYR as your future employer, please listen to what the guys are telling you! You might be based somewhere far from home, sitting is a hotel on endless standbys waiting for your LT to start. Come summer you will see hotel/airb&b prices soar as the tourist season starts, and before you know it you will be maxed out on your credit cards or mom and dads money!
Back when I was in the company, I only had to wait around a month from TR end to LT start, and I STILL had to pay much more in expenses than I would have ever believed! and I was living in an awful apartment in one of Europes least expensive cities, and all I was allowing myself to do all day was to eat eggs, oatmeal and whatever cheap basic food I could find. This is simply just the reality of it all. The pay during LT is also extremely low, and I will be surprised if you make it out of the first 1-1,5 years in the company without juuust breaking even while saving up for a slow winter, paying off debt and creditcards.
If you still think RYR is for you, then don´t let me or anyone else stop you - but please listen to what we tell you!
There are other options out there at the moment! At least give it a good try, before you decide on this company!
I know you may have met loads of RYR guys who seem happy, and I will not deny that there are loads out there who consider themselves lucky for the time being. But be prepared to loose a lot of money in the beginning, and have your affairs in order with the taxman while you are in there! I went through a full audit when I left, and in my current company, I know so many ex-Ryr guys who have had to pay back loads of tax back once they returned to their home country!
You are truly on your own with this company. (Ryr contract or not) If you can accept it - Fine. But once you have seen "the other side" in a proper company you will join us "ex-ryr" boys and girls in our efforts to warn future colleges.
Ps. I totally agree with the previous post about the "Swedish house mafia". This is NOT the average or even below average life of a RYR pilot.
Good luck
I did "my time" in Ryanair as well, and boy are you in for a surprise if you think the almost 30K is enough to complete all of it and get the career started.
So many things can happen! I have current friends in the company who have had to wait much longer that the 30 days, and a few even more than 4 months. And this was before the mass exodus a couple of months ago!
If you REALLY want to consider RYR as your future employer, please listen to what the guys are telling you! You might be based somewhere far from home, sitting is a hotel on endless standbys waiting for your LT to start. Come summer you will see hotel/airb&b prices soar as the tourist season starts, and before you know it you will be maxed out on your credit cards or mom and dads money!
Back when I was in the company, I only had to wait around a month from TR end to LT start, and I STILL had to pay much more in expenses than I would have ever believed! and I was living in an awful apartment in one of Europes least expensive cities, and all I was allowing myself to do all day was to eat eggs, oatmeal and whatever cheap basic food I could find. This is simply just the reality of it all. The pay during LT is also extremely low, and I will be surprised if you make it out of the first 1-1,5 years in the company without juuust breaking even while saving up for a slow winter, paying off debt and creditcards.
If you still think RYR is for you, then don´t let me or anyone else stop you - but please listen to what we tell you!
There are other options out there at the moment! At least give it a good try, before you decide on this company!
I know you may have met loads of RYR guys who seem happy, and I will not deny that there are loads out there who consider themselves lucky for the time being. But be prepared to loose a lot of money in the beginning, and have your affairs in order with the taxman while you are in there! I went through a full audit when I left, and in my current company, I know so many ex-Ryr guys who have had to pay back loads of tax back once they returned to their home country!
You are truly on your own with this company. (Ryr contract or not) If you can accept it - Fine. But once you have seen "the other side" in a proper company you will join us "ex-ryr" boys and girls in our efforts to warn future colleges.
Ps. I totally agree with the previous post about the "Swedish house mafia". This is NOT the average or even below average life of a RYR pilot.
Good luck
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then why did you join ryanair in the first place ??? all of you "ex-ryr", you joined ryanair aswell and i am 100% sure there have also been people who told you not do it, so what?
i paid my atpl all by myself and i know whats living at the limits trust me. i lived the last 3 years in a basement.
this tread is to help people get trough the interview and sim and not ****-talking the company. do you really think we are that stupid so we dont understand their practices? before i applied i talked to like 4 ryanair pilots to get to know how daily life was.
the situation is still dire as it was last year, do you know how hard it is to get a job as a cadet? every airline is asking for a valid TR and 500+ hours. we just want a job and if it means to have a hard start then so be it.
i paid my atpl all by myself and i know whats living at the limits trust me. i lived the last 3 years in a basement.
this tread is to help people get trough the interview and sim and not ****-talking the company. do you really think we are that stupid so we dont understand their practices? before i applied i talked to like 4 ryanair pilots to get to know how daily life was.
the situation is still dire as it was last year, do you know how hard it is to get a job as a cadet? every airline is asking for a valid TR and 500+ hours. we just want a job and if it means to have a hard start then so be it.
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No I applied to easyJet, Aer Lingus, DHL etc aswell not only Ryanair. I will take the first offer I get.
Look I appreciate the advices but if I get the offer I wont turn it down even when its a bad deal.
Look I appreciate the advices but if I get the offer I wont turn it down even when its a bad deal.
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then why did you join ryanair in the first place ??? all of you "ex-ryr", you joined ryanair aswell and i am 100% sure there have also been people who told you not do it, so what?
i paid my atpl all by myself and i know whats living at the limits trust me. i lived the last 3 years in a basement.
this tread is to help people get trough the interview and sim and not ****-talking the company. do you really think we are that stupid so we dont understand their practices? before i applied i talked to like 4 ryanair pilots to get to know how daily life was.
the situation is still dire as it was last year, do you know how hard it is to get a job as a cadet? every airline is asking for a valid TR and 500+ hours. we just want a job and if it means to have a hard start then so be it.
i paid my atpl all by myself and i know whats living at the limits trust me. i lived the last 3 years in a basement.
this tread is to help people get trough the interview and sim and not ****-talking the company. do you really think we are that stupid so we dont understand their practices? before i applied i talked to like 4 ryanair pilots to get to know how daily life was.
the situation is still dire as it was last year, do you know how hard it is to get a job as a cadet? every airline is asking for a valid TR and 500+ hours. we just want a job and if it means to have a hard start then so be it.
I was lucky to land a job as an FI after I finished training just before the financial crisis. I got me my first 1000hrs before I was laid off when the crisis hit. fast forward 200 applications and I finally decided to try Ryanair. A decision I have always felt was in PURE desperation! I worked out, but at a cost I think.
Being without a job after the crisis is in no way comparable to todays market. In my company, half of the new FO's got a job while still doing their CPL. Our company simply went to the flight schools to recruit early. 10 years ago, I would have simply not believed that would ever be remotely possible. It has gone from being: "wow, I just landed my first job flying tourists around the flag pole twice a week" to "wow, I just landed my first job - and it's on a 737/airbus". Massive difference!
I think it is incredibly ignorant not to take both the good and bad advice from colleagues in the community. As I wrote before, I DO know RYR pilots who are happy. I would say its about 50%. mostly because they are based close to home. With my current lot, I would say it's closer to 90. And I'm still in low cost!
Starting a career with RYR today is much more a choice than it was before in my opinion. It's way more expensive than it was back then. The salary is lower from what they paid me, and you WILL have to wait for your LT to start or there will be far between your training days.
If you join, I sincerely hope things have changed by the time you are ready to start your training, and I hope I am massively mistaken. But I'm not holding my breath.....
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First thing's first oldkarim, it is not, and never will be your "right" to fly a 737. It's this attitude that is contributing to the declining conditions in this industry, people like yourself using a professional career as their hobby.
I think others have more or less covered the points. The current Ryanair pilots are trying to change things at the company, and people like yourself coming in, willing to accept the appalling conditions as a 'good opportunity' for yourself is not helping anybody.
Don't forget "Matt the pilot" of IG fame, generally regarded as one of the worst pilots in the company (also failed most of his ATPL written and practical exams, so I'm told).
I think others have more or less covered the points. The current Ryanair pilots are trying to change things at the company, and people like yourself coming in, willing to accept the appalling conditions as a 'good opportunity' for yourself is not helping anybody.
Stay well clear of BS such as the “Swedish flight mafia” their propaganda revolves around what they managed to acquire by means of playing the “look at me in my bikini card.” That is not the life that awaits you, unless you’re a reasonably attractive female who has no quarrels about buying followers to get your completely unbalanced happy-go-lucky account up and running on IG.
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maybe its time to stop you imply we are fine with those conditions. we have no other choice than to accept them or should i say at the interview yeah i want double the salary and a fixed contract? lmao get real.. can we maybe stop this now? we got it already 10 pages before, ryanair sucks, we suck aswell because we want to join them and ruin the industry.
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Beware all, huge huge delays after your type rating. Lads that started their tr in may I am seeing with safety pilot still to receive a pay cheque. If you pass your tr this week, your looking at march for starting line training. You can't even get a job else where as they give you short notice to go back in the sims each week to keep current, which of course, can be ema, dub, STN, ams,at your own costs imagine.