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Obviously an interview with no biscuits for them.
Maybe urban legend but I was under the impression that FR pilots were always walking on egg shells about their jobs, with no union representation they could be sacked for just about anything and a place would be free for another 30k type rating. Apologies if I am wrong.
Maybe urban legend but I was under the impression that FR pilots were always walking on egg shells about their jobs, with no union representation they could be sacked for just about anything and a place would be free for another 30k type rating. Apologies if I am wrong.
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Maybe urban legend but I was under the impression that FR pilots were always walking on egg shells about their jobs, with no union representation they could be sacked for just about anything and a place would be free for another 30k type rating. Apologies if I am wrong.
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lol torque
Yeah a good healthy arguement is great fun, ask my wife. I always like a wee bit of black humour thrown in too.
One of my favourute sketches, Monty Pythons Arguement Clinic
YouTube - Argument Clinic
Just watch up until he leaves John Cleese's office, hilarious.
I do actually agree that FR is the only option at the moment but I suppose it is just the situation we are in. For example in medicine, dentistry etc there is a finite number of students allowed each year, in aviation there is no limit on the numbers who can train, the economic situation at the moment compounds the numbers available at the moment.
Have a good Christmas one and all!
Yeah a good healthy arguement is great fun, ask my wife. I always like a wee bit of black humour thrown in too.
One of my favourute sketches, Monty Pythons Arguement Clinic
YouTube - Argument Clinic
Just watch up until he leaves John Cleese's office, hilarious.
I do actually agree that FR is the only option at the moment but I suppose it is just the situation we are in. For example in medicine, dentistry etc there is a finite number of students allowed each year, in aviation there is no limit on the numbers who can train, the economic situation at the moment compounds the numbers available at the moment.
Have a good Christmas one and all!
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Just to refute another popular misconception, I haven't heard of too many receiving tea and biscuits in Dublin for every indiscretion possible. In most instances either your Base Captain or OFDM facilitor will discuss any matters that come to light. As much as many would just love to believe, I haven't come across an 'issue the P45 now, ask questions after' policy. Sorry to disappoint.
However in the interests of adding balance, here are two areas where you can expect a meeting with our Chief Pilot.
1. Gate bust. We have clearly set criteria for a stabalised approach along with a specific call advocating the PMs position at a critical period. Should the criteria not be met then the result is more often an unstabilised and possible high energy approach. Failure to react to a EGPWS 'hard' warning won't receive too much praise either. Ryanair aren't keen on these and the OFDM never lies.
2. TOC Warning horn activation - Attempt to take off with Flaps unset or stab trim out of range will certainly raise attention. A major campaign has been put in place to ensure specific steps are taken right up to departure to ensure everything is set to go, each checklist is actioned, ch allenged and responded to. Ryanair are aware of how a checklist, a scan or a flow pattern can easily be broken, largely due to external factors. They have put a number of procedures in place to ensure it doesn't occur. The Madrid incident with Spanair really highlighted its importantance. The procedures were well in place before the accident occured. The company has a no tolerance policy this.
So these two things can land you in bother. Why not? Both acts of negligence, if a court were concerned. I'm sure the majority of airlines would take a similar view. Level Bust is another area that creates attention and requires the 'pulling' of the CVR CB. I can't see any reason to dispute any of these policies. What's your carriers policy, smith? Maybe enlighten upon what policies XL had in place, Beak?
As for the guys in PIK yesterday, sorry to oppose contrary belief, however they will remain very much employed.
However in the interests of adding balance, here are two areas where you can expect a meeting with our Chief Pilot.
1. Gate bust. We have clearly set criteria for a stabalised approach along with a specific call advocating the PMs position at a critical period. Should the criteria not be met then the result is more often an unstabilised and possible high energy approach. Failure to react to a EGPWS 'hard' warning won't receive too much praise either. Ryanair aren't keen on these and the OFDM never lies.
2. TOC Warning horn activation - Attempt to take off with Flaps unset or stab trim out of range will certainly raise attention. A major campaign has been put in place to ensure specific steps are taken right up to departure to ensure everything is set to go, each checklist is actioned, ch allenged and responded to. Ryanair are aware of how a checklist, a scan or a flow pattern can easily be broken, largely due to external factors. They have put a number of procedures in place to ensure it doesn't occur. The Madrid incident with Spanair really highlighted its importantance. The procedures were well in place before the accident occured. The company has a no tolerance policy this.
So these two things can land you in bother. Why not? Both acts of negligence, if a court were concerned. I'm sure the majority of airlines would take a similar view. Level Bust is another area that creates attention and requires the 'pulling' of the CVR CB. I can't see any reason to dispute any of these policies. What's your carriers policy, smith? Maybe enlighten upon what policies XL had in place, Beak?
As for the guys in PIK yesterday, sorry to oppose contrary belief, however they will remain very much employed.
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Read the OAA site for the type rating costs which are published. In their brochure it did not mention anything regarding starting salaries etc.
1) Firstly, what is the real cost for the type rating, assuming travel / living etc? I read the accommodation cost in Sweden is between 50 - 120 per day and the course length is around 8 weeks.
2) Once completed, do you pay for the 6 T&G's in the A/C or is this included?
3) While line training, do you get a salary that you can live on and what are the increments for future earnings?
1) Firstly, what is the real cost for the type rating, assuming travel / living etc? I read the accommodation cost in Sweden is between 50 - 120 per day and the course length is around 8 weeks.
2) Once completed, do you pay for the 6 T&G's in the A/C or is this included?
3) While line training, do you get a salary that you can live on and what are the increments for future earnings?
turbine Im sure if you used the grey matter between your ears and searched pprune and even this thread you would find all the information you need to know.
And the touch and go's are included in the cost of the type.
And the touch and go's are included in the cost of the type.
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What a wonderful christmas present... :(
Hi guys,
today I got the answer from the interview I did on the 18th of december in STN... Negative...
Anyone who was with me got in? I know of a couple of you who had the same answer... Hope someone got through...
Anyway, wish all a nice(r) christmas, and a happy(ier) new year.
Allioth
today I got the answer from the interview I did on the 18th of december in STN... Negative...
Anyone who was with me got in? I know of a couple of you who had the same answer... Hope someone got through...
Anyway, wish all a nice(r) christmas, and a happy(ier) new year.
Allioth
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Can anyone who has been through the Ryanair scheme or selection in the last couple of months or has just started the scheme confirm a few things please. Recent info only please:
1: How much is the Type Rating course as of now?
2: Is it true that you can succesffully reclaim the tax back from the costs of the Scheme. If so how much can you be looking at reclaiming?
3: Where are new guys getting based, are you getting close to a preferred option?
4: What is the current take home for a low houred cadet after all deductions ie: Tax, NI, Accountants share and what ever else they can find to charge you for?
5: How do you get East Midlands as a Type Rating Centre?
Cheers guys.
1: How much is the Type Rating course as of now?
2: Is it true that you can succesffully reclaim the tax back from the costs of the Scheme. If so how much can you be looking at reclaiming?
3: Where are new guys getting based, are you getting close to a preferred option?
4: What is the current take home for a low houred cadet after all deductions ie: Tax, NI, Accountants share and what ever else they can find to charge you for?
5: How do you get East Midlands as a Type Rating Centre?
Cheers guys.
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Could I also ask about funding for the type rating course. Are the banks offering loans on the basis of the BRK contract or does it require extra security such as a house or a guarantor.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Any help appreciated
Cheers
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Why would the banks give you the loanon the strength of a BRK contract without security. Remember the contract promises you nothing i.e no guarantee of any earnings whatsoever.
I would imagine their isn't a hope in hell of you getting the money without giving the bank the security of someones house. The BRK contract would be way too much of a risk for any bank.
I would imagine their isn't a hope in hell of you getting the money without giving the bank the security of someones house. The BRK contract would be way too much of a risk for any bank.
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Question:
I was wondering... If you applied to Ryanair end of December, how long would it take to hear something?
And how many Cadets are they taking this year?
Is the recruiting permanently or does it stop sometimes, to continue after a few months?
greets
I was wondering... If you applied to Ryanair end of December, how long would it take to hear something?
And how many Cadets are they taking this year?
Is the recruiting permanently or does it stop sometimes, to continue after a few months?
greets
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This thread!
This thread is slowly meandering back to the original subject after being dragged 'off topic' by those with a grudge.
Can we endeavour to keep it 'on' topic please? It will save me having to delete the off topic posts in future.
HWB
Can we endeavour to keep it 'on' topic please? It will save me having to delete the off topic posts in future.
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HWB it has never been about having a grudge, it has been about opposing what is wrong. There are now new lows in the industry and bigger targets to focus ones 'grudge' on and thus your workload has reduced. The Ryanair deal is now relatively good.
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Ontopic Thank you...
Question:
I was wondering... If you applied to Ryanair end of December, how long would it take to hear something?
And how many Cadets are they taking this year?
Is the recruiting permanently or does it stop sometimes, to continue after a few months?
greets
Question:
I was wondering... If you applied to Ryanair end of December, how long would it take to hear something?
And how many Cadets are they taking this year?
Is the recruiting permanently or does it stop sometimes, to continue after a few months?
greets
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There is no set or ballpark time as to when you will hear from FR regarding an interview. Most will not get an interview. They will be recruiting for most of 2010. Be prepared that you might never hear from them. That is the harsh reality of it.
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lol
Its not changed for the better.
FR deal is you pay around €33,500 for a 737-300/800 type rating and provided you pass it you get base training, provided you pass that you get line trained, provided you pass that (around 80sectors normal) you stay on as a contract pilot to Ryanair through a company called brookfield, you pay for all you accomidation and food ect while doing the type rating then once doing line training and you are released from the safty pilot (spare F/O) you get €35.50 per schedualed block hour of flying, then €55.50 after line training compleate, then €70.50 after 500hours on type then €78.50 after 1500hours on type. (command time is 2900hours but that may have changed on new contracts?)
There is no guarantee of hours but expect a yearly average of 600-750 based on most F/O's average, work 11 months a year with an extra 10 days holiday to take as and when.
You have to set up a limited company in Ireland useing one of Brookfields accountants who charge you 3% of your wage to do your tax return that is paid in Ireland no matter where you live!, its all fairly easy if you fill in all the forms they send you and save every reciept you can to offset against tax!
down side should they no longer require your services they just dont roster your to fly and you get no €€€! also no sick pay no holiday pay no LOL no uniforms you pay your own airside ID and medical,,, basicly everything is paid by you, so save reciepts eat well and stay fit so you can fly, now have 39 bases at last count? expanding in Portugal Italy and Spain so likly to be based in those places, But people still be sent to other bases in UK too and Leeds opening in March.
Plus side all the free hot water you can drink! plus many many other things but ill go go into them on here as its been discussed to death.
Hope that is usefull.
ZTH
Its not changed for the better.
FR deal is you pay around €33,500 for a 737-300/800 type rating and provided you pass it you get base training, provided you pass that you get line trained, provided you pass that (around 80sectors normal) you stay on as a contract pilot to Ryanair through a company called brookfield, you pay for all you accomidation and food ect while doing the type rating then once doing line training and you are released from the safty pilot (spare F/O) you get €35.50 per schedualed block hour of flying, then €55.50 after line training compleate, then €70.50 after 500hours on type then €78.50 after 1500hours on type. (command time is 2900hours but that may have changed on new contracts?)
There is no guarantee of hours but expect a yearly average of 600-750 based on most F/O's average, work 11 months a year with an extra 10 days holiday to take as and when.
You have to set up a limited company in Ireland useing one of Brookfields accountants who charge you 3% of your wage to do your tax return that is paid in Ireland no matter where you live!, its all fairly easy if you fill in all the forms they send you and save every reciept you can to offset against tax!
down side should they no longer require your services they just dont roster your to fly and you get no €€€! also no sick pay no holiday pay no LOL no uniforms you pay your own airside ID and medical,,, basicly everything is paid by you, so save reciepts eat well and stay fit so you can fly, now have 39 bases at last count? expanding in Portugal Italy and Spain so likly to be based in those places, But people still be sent to other bases in UK too and Leeds opening in March.
Plus side all the free hot water you can drink! plus many many other things but ill go go into them on here as its been discussed to death.
Hope that is usefull.
ZTH