Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)
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Hi Guys,
I've just received a confirmation that i passed the assessment.
I did my mcc at CAE so i had only the interview in EMA
I'll start the TR on December.
Good luck.
Cheers
P.S: If you have any question do neot hesitate to pv me
I've just received a confirmation that i passed the assessment.
I did my mcc at CAE so i had only the interview in EMA
I'll start the TR on December.
Good luck.
Cheers
P.S: If you have any question do neot hesitate to pv me
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Wake up, guys and girls, stop giving FR so much credit.....Keep away from it! All the things mentioned here on PPRUNE are true.... This should make you think twice before even paying to be interviewed...!!!
Find a job in another company!
Find a job in another company!
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Anotherpilot007!
I just finished a modular course that didnt cost the world. i've got 217TT
first time passes and high 90's average in ATPL's. all done in 14months too!!!
I'm just as good as people who paid almost double and went to the big schools.
can you name a few airlines flying jets in the UK that are willing to even look at my cv nevermind interview me,cause i havent found them! All big carriers are in my opinion a little narrowminded, "if ur from OAT, FTE etc come and we pay everything" otherwise go get an instructor rating, after a few thousand hours we MIGHT consider you!
Ryanair is a low cost airline and i would even say VERY low cost airline i'm flying in for the cadet open day paying £15 for a return to EMA from dublin. Bus costs more!!!
I dont blame them for chargin for TR and interviews, you get every tom dick & harry applying wasting sim time and maybe even passing interviews but failing TR courses.
If you dont like them, dont fly with them, and dont work for them, but give us a chance.
p.s. I know at least three people flying for Ryanair and all reccomend it.
I just finished a modular course that didnt cost the world. i've got 217TT
first time passes and high 90's average in ATPL's. all done in 14months too!!!
I'm just as good as people who paid almost double and went to the big schools.
can you name a few airlines flying jets in the UK that are willing to even look at my cv nevermind interview me,cause i havent found them! All big carriers are in my opinion a little narrowminded, "if ur from OAT, FTE etc come and we pay everything" otherwise go get an instructor rating, after a few thousand hours we MIGHT consider you!
Ryanair is a low cost airline and i would even say VERY low cost airline i'm flying in for the cadet open day paying £15 for a return to EMA from dublin. Bus costs more!!!
I dont blame them for chargin for TR and interviews, you get every tom dick & harry applying wasting sim time and maybe even passing interviews but failing TR courses.
If you dont like them, dont fly with them, and dont work for them, but give us a chance.
p.s. I know at least three people flying for Ryanair and all reccomend it.
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They charge for interview because they do not want you to cost them any money.... they might even make money on you....
If it was to keep every TDH from wasting time in the sim, maybe they would invite people for assessment with more consideration and caution. The way things are at the moment, they can have a wider choice of people and it does not COST them a penny..... On top of that, only money can buy you a way into a job, not merit.....If you do not have the dosh, but you are good, NO JOB!
They do not really care if you make it on the TR course or the Line Training..... I know guys who struggled big time on the TR course or who even failed line training or base check..... They did not cost the company a single penny. Come on, think!
This is what you need to remember! They do not value staff! You are just a commodity.... if you are willing to accept that, fair enough..... maybe once you are in, you will change your mind.....
Have a browse through PPRUNE, and open your eyes. Having a jet job is not the ultimate goal in life, above all with such a company. Is it?
If it was to keep every TDH from wasting time in the sim, maybe they would invite people for assessment with more consideration and caution. The way things are at the moment, they can have a wider choice of people and it does not COST them a penny..... On top of that, only money can buy you a way into a job, not merit.....If you do not have the dosh, but you are good, NO JOB!
They do not really care if you make it on the TR course or the Line Training..... I know guys who struggled big time on the TR course or who even failed line training or base check..... They did not cost the company a single penny. Come on, think!
This is what you need to remember! They do not value staff! You are just a commodity.... if you are willing to accept that, fair enough..... maybe once you are in, you will change your mind.....
Have a browse through PPRUNE, and open your eyes. Having a jet job is not the ultimate goal in life, above all with such a company. Is it?
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Anotherpilot007, I appreciate what you say and undrestand where you come from.
I dont want Ryanair to care about me, I want a job thats gonna give me the time in my logbook which in 2-3years time will get me the job at thompson or jet2 or the likes. If its with crappy conditions, low pay, and the possiblity of bein chopped if ur not good enough I'm willing to take the chance, as I dont think its even fair on new beginners for me to become an instructor. its just not for me!
Also I'm not arrogant but I know i'm not stupid, neither did I struggle through my training so I'm pretty confident if I work hard TR and line training are not gonna be impossible for me.
I think of it this way:
1- I will work hard and pass TR
2- I will pass base check and Line training again workin my back side off to make sure I do (and if I dont then thats a big big loss but personally i'm willing to take the chance)
3- i'm lucky enough to be able to survive on the pay (no commintments etc)
4- When I got 1000hr on type, then I will think "Am I happy here? is the pay good?" if the answer is no I will look elsewhere and at least then no one will use the "you got no experience" excuse.
I dont want Ryanair to care about me, I want a job thats gonna give me the time in my logbook which in 2-3years time will get me the job at thompson or jet2 or the likes. If its with crappy conditions, low pay, and the possiblity of bein chopped if ur not good enough I'm willing to take the chance, as I dont think its even fair on new beginners for me to become an instructor. its just not for me!
Also I'm not arrogant but I know i'm not stupid, neither did I struggle through my training so I'm pretty confident if I work hard TR and line training are not gonna be impossible for me.
I think of it this way:
1- I will work hard and pass TR
2- I will pass base check and Line training again workin my back side off to make sure I do (and if I dont then thats a big big loss but personally i'm willing to take the chance)
3- i'm lucky enough to be able to survive on the pay (no commintments etc)
4- When I got 1000hr on type, then I will think "Am I happy here? is the pay good?" if the answer is no I will look elsewhere and at least then no one will use the "you got no experience" excuse.
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In 2-3 years time the conditions in Ryanair will be well on the way to being adopted by Thomson, Jet2... you name it. With that attitude of yours it's a good thing you don't want a company that cares about you because it's precisely what you're going to get. Personally I hope you get the royal shafting á la FR that leaves you sitting akwardly for the next two years.
The really interesting question is how will you feel when the fantastic company you eventually join start slashing salaries to make room for the next batch of freshly squeezed cadets aching to do your job for less money than you. By then you might have a 'life' ie those commitments you consider yourself lucky not to have and you might not be so keen to up and leave once again. The sad thing is you're making other people's beds for them too, not just your own. That's the only reason I'm posting this.
Good luck
The really interesting question is how will you feel when the fantastic company you eventually join start slashing salaries to make room for the next batch of freshly squeezed cadets aching to do your job for less money than you. By then you might have a 'life' ie those commitments you consider yourself lucky not to have and you might not be so keen to up and leave once again. The sad thing is you're making other people's beds for them too, not just your own. That's the only reason I'm posting this.
Good luck
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Captain N,
Gnirren is absolutely correct. You're reasons for joining FR are of course in line with what most FR wannabes on here think but they show clear immaturity and a lack of understanding about how business and the world in general operates. Young eager wannabes regard FR as a "stepping stone" but fail to see that before you know it starting terms at every airline will be piss-poor as the airlines would've clocked on to the fact that FR's salary model results in mega profits!
Why not join FR and stay/fight to make it a better place?
Gnirren is absolutely correct. You're reasons for joining FR are of course in line with what most FR wannabes on here think but they show clear immaturity and a lack of understanding about how business and the world in general operates. Young eager wannabes regard FR as a "stepping stone" but fail to see that before you know it starting terms at every airline will be piss-poor as the airlines would've clocked on to the fact that FR's salary model results in mega profits!
Why not join FR and stay/fight to make it a better place?
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How many more people are going to jump all over Captain N I wonder?
Maybe someone could actually offer some constructive advise on what other career choices he might have, especially when he has gone to the trouble to outline his position so carefully?
*Maybe* Ryanair aren't that great to work for, but you cannot start attacking someone who has just been offered a place with them, when it is very clear that there are simply no other options out there for people in Captain N's position.
Perhaps all these complacent types that have their cushy jobs should start to do the fighting from where they are, rather than waste time slagging off all the low hours guys.
Everyone has been in the same position at one time, so cut the guy some slack.
Maybe someone could actually offer some constructive advise on what other career choices he might have, especially when he has gone to the trouble to outline his position so carefully?
*Maybe* Ryanair aren't that great to work for, but you cannot start attacking someone who has just been offered a place with them, when it is very clear that there are simply no other options out there for people in Captain N's position.
Perhaps all these complacent types that have their cushy jobs should start to do the fighting from where they are, rather than waste time slagging off all the low hours guys.
Everyone has been in the same position at one time, so cut the guy some slack.
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I know Captain N, and I work for Ryanair, I think based on what is available to him with his experience he's doing the right thing.
People seem to think that it is the cadets that are making the change in this industry, however, who are the people who have the power to make any changes for the better? The cadets or the people who are in a position to make a choice.. That answer seems obvious to me?
YYZ
People seem to think that it is the cadets that are making the change in this industry, however, who are the people who have the power to make any changes for the better? The cadets or the people who are in a position to make a choice.. That answer seems obvious to me?
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Silent but deadly, YZZ, perhaps Captain N (strange username with 217hrs) did outline his position, but it's perfectly understandable why he was still attacked. Quite simply because his assumptions are plain wrong.
It's the usual one about "moving somewhere better". For every passenger he carries while at ryr is one less than a good carrier might have carried. He's cutting his own throat. By the time he gets his hours, the conditions elsewhere will have fallen that bit more. So short-sighted, so foolish.
BTW, cpatain N, you mention jet2 as a career option. Jet2 has already become ryr mk 2, which just demonstrates the fallacy of your plan.
It's the usual one about "moving somewhere better". For every passenger he carries while at ryr is one less than a good carrier might have carried. He's cutting his own throat. By the time he gets his hours, the conditions elsewhere will have fallen that bit more. So short-sighted, so foolish.
BTW, cpatain N, you mention jet2 as a career option. Jet2 has already become ryr mk 2, which just demonstrates the fallacy of your plan.
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I find it truly worrying that potential pilots think that only alternative to flying is a McJob. Are the calibre of candidates that low?? Surely if want to take on the incredible responsibility of flying a jet, you have the ability to undertake something slightly more challenging than mcdonalds??
I've said it before many a time, ryr aeroplanes will fly one way or another. If people refuse to buy a job, they will be provided with a TR. Remember Boeing provide TR's free with all new aircraft, so a refusal to pay will not ground the aircraft.
And yes, we all know those already in the airline must play their part. We are trying, let me assure you. The problem is that the type of person who is willing to buy a job is not the brightest, so once in ryr they often fail to appreciate the need for a union, and having bent over once, are all to willing to do so again. Unfortunately there are enough of these types to make progress more difficult than it needs to be.
I've said it before many a time, ryr aeroplanes will fly one way or another. If people refuse to buy a job, they will be provided with a TR. Remember Boeing provide TR's free with all new aircraft, so a refusal to pay will not ground the aircraft.
And yes, we all know those already in the airline must play their part. We are trying, let me assure you. The problem is that the type of person who is willing to buy a job is not the brightest, so once in ryr they often fail to appreciate the need for a union, and having bent over once, are all to willing to do so again. Unfortunately there are enough of these types to make progress more difficult than it needs to be.
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I paid for my TR; however, I’ve been a member of BALPA for several years prior?
I can see your point without any problem, but the issue still stands that there are not many other choices for a low houred guy, and the fact still remains the Captain N and the others did not cause this situation, they/we may fuel it, but now the industry is like what it is what choice is there? And I agree, Jet2 is no step up (sorry Jet2 guys).
And as for his pseudonym, it is just that, or do you really think im an airport
YYZ
I can see your point without any problem, but the issue still stands that there are not many other choices for a low houred guy, and the fact still remains the Captain N and the others did not cause this situation, they/we may fuel it, but now the industry is like what it is what choice is there? And I agree, Jet2 is no step up (sorry Jet2 guys).
And as for his pseudonym, it is just that, or do you really think im an airport
YYZ