Ryanair Interview and Sim Assessment (merged)

[kitenation]

I think it’s worth mentioning, that 1,5 year ago Ryanair (not sure if everywhere but Buzz for sure) was not only taking cadets with 5k upfront fee and bond for tr but also offering 20k€ (sic!) to rated officers with just as few as a couple hundred hours on type for joining the line. It’s all about offering and demand, it always was and always will. That’s how capitalism work. I also would never pay 30k€ for a tr without job guarantee (in normal times) despite the fact I am rated on 737 but currently on unpaid leave... it’s just a matter of time, and a job is still a job, line flying is about merging passion with earning for a living. If supposed to pay for the flying I would rather stick to ga.

[ShamrockF]

Would anyone have the most recent Ryanair sim briefing pack? It's the document they provide to prospective pilots attending the sim sessions. If so, could you send me a PM?

Thanks in advance.

[sam.cf]

I was wondering if anyone had completed the Ryanair online assessment recently and would be kind enough to share some feedback. It would be great to know how the overall process works and possibly have some more info on the sort of questions that were asked during the theory part and the video interview.

Many thanks !

[NatHiscocks]

I did it just before lockdown last year, I am not sure how much has changed since then. They were a mix of questions, I got a few Met ones about orographic fog, how a front is formed etc. It's hard because they are so random, but aren't difficult - if I can pass it anyone can't. I don't think the pass mark is particularly high, but don't quote me on it; you'll be fine. In terms of the interview questions, I cannot remember but they were the generic ones. I had a time when I was in a conflict situation and a time when I would do something differently. Just checking for English language I think. I stressed way too much over it. Ryanair want people to pass, if they are making money off our training, why would they want to deliberately fail you if they don't have too. Regardless, it'll be a while before we start to get back to normal I am not delusional about that, but no one really knows.

[737fl]

I also did it before lockdown, it was a typical cut-e assessment you can google it and do a few practice goes. ATPL questions straight film the bank, I got slant range calculation, ICAO council members, random met ones etc. Video interview questions were tell us a fun fact about yourself, why do you want to be a pilot, tell ya about a time with conflict. it’s not difficult at all.

[hsilva7]

Assessment doubts - newly graduated pilot

Hey guys.

I am a newly graduated pilot, with ATPL(frozen) license, roughly 208h of flight time. Two days ago, I successfully submitted my application for the cadets TR program on the official Ryanair careers page. Should I already have received any e-mail just notifying me that they have received my application and it will be analyzed?

Another doubt that arose while scrolling down this forum it's: If we are selected by them to carry out the assessment, interview, simulator in Dublin etc... and we fortunately succeed, we would be invited to pay upfront 30k to undergo the TR course without any job guarantee?

thanks

[Contact Approach]

Has anyone actually got any evidence to suggest there’s an actual job contract with Ryanair as an FO at the end of this or is it purely a training agreement between you and AFA for a 737 TR and some possible line training with their partner airline? If there’s nothing in the contract to say categorically that you will be employed by Ryanair on commencing/completion of the TR then you have no leg to stand on when they tell you they’ve got no job for you on completion. “Subject to business demands” as they’ve used previously doesn’t guarantee anything legally. There’s a real risk you end up back at square one 30K down with only an expensive rating to keep current.

Currently they haven’t enough planes flying for their current lot and they aren’t forecasting huge numbers this year.

Proceed with caution!

[polskiland]

You pay 30k do the type rating fail it, no job. 30k out of the window. With all due respect, no one is flying at the moment and they explictinly said its for summer 2022. So you'll be holding there for another year and a half while you took that 30k loan out

[FlyingPorcupine]

Even if you succeed your TR, there is no job guarantee, it is completely subject to the business needs at the time you finish your line training.

1. Pre assessment (55 eur)
2. Assessment (~350 eur)
3. Type rating (30K paid up front)
4. Sign a 6 month training contract with RYR for your line training
5. Sign an employment contrat with RYR according to the business needs at the time

It's a type rating programme, not an employment offer.

[Hawker400]

Airlines in general and low-cost airlines in particular know that they can offset the entire cost onto newcomers, but what most don't realize is that they now offset the entire risk as well.

One does not have to look far to see examples of this. Easyjet very clearly told the cadets YOU ARE NOT AN EMPLOYEE.

Ryanair is doing the exact same thing with this training organization. If travel demand, company restructuring or God forbid you don't satisfy the standards during the course. They have zero responsibility to take you in afterwards. Because simply put YOU ARE NOT AN EMPLOYEE.

Don't be naive in thinking otherwise. This is a training program contract which puts you in the hole for €35k minimum considering all costs involved. After that should things be going well, you'll be offered an employment contract to work in 2022 as printed on their advertisement.

[Hawker400]

Contact Approach

This is the exact wording of my contract for a Ryanair partner airline which was a bonded contract; In other words very little investment from my part. I'll let you guys guess what it will say when you pay €30k upfront.

While XXX and its approved XXX XXX Agencies currently have positions available at bases throughout Europe, you must clearly understand that the training contract does not constitute an offer of employment nor a guarantee of an offer of employment at any time. Upon successful completion of your training you may be offered an employment contract with XXX or one of our XXX XXXXX Providers subject to your satisfactory performance during the term of this training contract and the requirements of the business at the prevailing time.

I don't have to mention what happened when I finished my training right when covid19 hit.

[BoeingLudo737]

Hawker400

Considering that it takes 6/8 months for a Cadet to fully finish the type rating and line training, yes, it will probably be 2022 when you'll start employment so nothing weird there. If you start the type rating in March you'll probably be finished some time in December.

[Mikith]

Hi,
How long does it take to get the online assessment results ?
Thanks

[Hawker400]

BoeingLudo737

The would-be start date isn't the weird part. What's not normal is paying over €30k euros + almost an entire year of living costs (and traveling/hotels) before you get even a wiff of cash, nevermind an actual employment contract in a world and primarily an industry that changes almost daily.. That's the weird part!

The company bears zero risk and dumps it all the cadet. This is absolutely unfair. In normal times you had no assurance of an employment contract but they had a bond over you which meant they invested in you and that was enough for people, myself included to sign on. Not to mention you got paid a training salary day one.

Now, nothing. Gambling that much money is not for the faint of heart.

[BoeingLudo737]

Hawker400

Salary from base training now as well so no changes

[captain.weird]

Mikith

Is this for cadet of DEFO?

[Mikith]

This is for cadet with AFA / Cut-e tests etc

[hsilva7]

Guys, I have the standard mcc course done in the B737/FNPTII SIM, and I was wondering about doing the APS MCC.

Do you think is worth the investment? Is it a major difference in comparison with the standard MCC, regarding the selection process by a airline?

And should I focus on doing a General APS MCC or the Ryanair Mentored APS MCC?

Thanks

[keenanj01]

Anyone with a NON EASA licence been contacted to do the Cut-e tests?

I applied on the RYR website and was then sent a form to fill in by [email protected] which I did stating I was a UK CAA Licence holder and Ive still been sent a link to do the tests even though when first advertised the position was open to EASA licence holders only and not to UK CAA Licence holders?

[Contact Approach]

BoeingLudo737

Salary for what? You’re not an employee...