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Old 19th Mar 2020, 12:33
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People who passed placed in the hold pool this morning. Stop spreading false rumours
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 15:26
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And what is going to happen with the ones that made the online assessment with CAE and haven't heard anything yet?
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Golf Foxtrod
Hi guys, it is true that next months will be difficult for aviation but don’t forget that Covid19 will probably no longer be relevant this summer and 737 MAX will probably comes back in september!! They will need pilots and also cadets! To train them in their own way like they always did! So you can say whatever you want, experienced pilot or fresh from flight School, as far as I am concerned I prefer to try the assessment and stay in a hold pool than nothing! I have a back up to work in a different sector and I really consider it right now but please guys, stay optimist and put all the odds on your side! Even if you have to pay 55€ or even around 500 for an interview and get nothing, never mind... Should I remind you the cost of the flight training? 😅
Head up and do your best even if everybody know that the future will be difficult, nobody can predict the exact situation...
And by the way, I got the invitation today and I intend to share the questions I had, as often recently asked...
Good luck to everyone.
Aviation will recover eventually but probably never be the same again. We're looking at years before the situation normalizes again. The market will shrink, more airlines will go in administration, plenty of experienced pilots will be out of a job. Command upgrades will grind to a halt, and no new hires will be required. Boeing is still not able to fix the MAX appropriately, aren't selling airplanes, and are asking a 60 billion dollar government bailout just to stay afloat. We're looking at a lost decade in aviation, in Europe and the US.

This is happening, RIGHT NOW. This is not a worst case prediction, this is happening as we speak. It's reality , and that after being grounded for just a month at best, probably looking at two months.

My friend, your optimism is so horribly misplaced and misguided, I can't even laugh about it.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 19:11
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Bravo!

Couldn’t agree more to your post. GolfFoxtrod’s posting shows inexperience and a complete lack of understanding of the industry.
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Old 19th Mar 2020, 23:15
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Originally Posted by Golf Foxtrod
Pinuz89, I can not say you are wrong, but what is the best to do for those who applied before all this **** and just get the online invitation ? Decline the test and be rejected immediately ? If you don’t try you loose each time budy I do not count more than that on Ryr, it is not the only company on the market, it is just an opportunity to take in case of a favorable outcome.
Of course if they have already invited you, I would go, I was meaning about people who are willing to apply.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 11:54
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Originally Posted by Jaygilly
No mate, how about you
Hey mate, did AFA send you an email?
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 17:03
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Originally Posted by kendrick47247
Bravo!

Couldn’t agree more to your post. GolfFoxtrod’s posting shows inexperience and a complete lack of understanding of the industry.
What an awesome bunch of experts we have here!
You are probably pilots but also business analyst and aeronautical ingineer...
Dave Calhoun, Michael O’Leary should have a look here, I am sure they would learn something!!
You are exactly the kind of person who thinks they know everything about everything! Have a look in the dictionary for the term « humility »

Someone wrote that Rynair doesn’t have a hold pool policy.... I just got an answer from AFA saying the opposite.
Another brillant person wrote that aviation industry will almost collapse... Easyjet just announced that they will offer thousands of flights next winter.

I don’t understant how you can be so sure of your words!
I do not disagree totally with you, I repeat that I am aware that future won’t be easy but stop saying things your are not sure will happen
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 17:50
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This is my very personal opinion: despite this very difficult period, which will surely weaken many companies (as aviation is a very fragile toy), even though some other airlines might go to administration, with loads of pilots on the ground, there will always be for sure the need to fly.
Other companies may expand, or maybe others more will born, the sky won't be empty when this disaster will end.
Considering that is not easy to contain a virus when already spreaded all over the world, the real antidote which will take away the fear of being infected, and so others fears such as to travel, from people mind will be to find a vaccine.
Only then the world will go back to the normal.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Golf Foxtrod
stop saying things your are not sure will happen
You have no idea how much I agree with you.
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 19:30
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Give me five dude ✋You are the Boss!
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Old 20th Mar 2020, 20:06
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It’s funny to read this....the paradox 😂
No we do not know for certain the state of the industry in six months time, however, there is data supporting as slow recovery that it could take years.
Easyjet selling flights? Off course, from £39 I hear...now look into the economics of it and then we talk. Look into their profit margins, how on earth do you believe that the stimulus package and the current liquidity are sufficient to return to the recruitment boom of the last two years?
How much have Easyjet taken in the last two years?

Michael O’leary took a 50% pay cut as well today, this is the guy who won’t give you free coffee, let that sink in.... Have you been to a Ryanair crew room? Some bases the crewroom is a ship container converted, I am not joking. My point is, it’s all about cost, so be prepared for a long, long wait.

We are free to think all we want, but honestly, wake the hell up. The naivety is shocking, study the industry and the economics of it, it’s part of the role.

You're getting good advice from people who want to see you succeed, as we look out for one another. Ive been there, I fly for a decent airline now and took a massive pay-cut too due to Covid19. It took me many years to land a job so I understand the desperation but wise up.

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Old 20th Mar 2020, 23:02
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Originally Posted by Raph737
You're getting good advice from people who want to see you succeed, as we look out for one another. Ive been there, I fly for a decent airline now and took a massive pay-cut too due to Covid19. It took me many years to land a job so I understand the desperation but wise up.
MIC DROP! Perfect summation
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Old 23rd Mar 2020, 20:40
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And when, after a long long time waiting, you pass the interview there will be a 30K pricetag for the TR. Cash up front. Or will it be 40K this time? Or maybe even 50k? And you will be so desperate you will jump on this "opportunity" , and get yourself into so much debt that you will be a slave to the banks , willing to make any compromise to your self worth in order to keep your job as you can not afford to lose it. And that is exactly where the airlines want you to be.
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Old 23rd Mar 2020, 22:38
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Please someone buy this man a beer!!

Well said!
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Old 23rd Mar 2020, 22:41
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Pubs shut mate 😉😂
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Old 24th Mar 2020, 09:50
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Seems like all current qualified pilots don't want any new players after the s*** has hit the fan for their future job interviews, as younger cadets and with less FH will be a cheaper hire for the airlines...
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Old 24th Mar 2020, 09:54
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Yes exactly. Because a 10.000hr Capt is easily replaced by a 200hr cadet.

​​​​​​Get real
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Old 24th Mar 2020, 10:50
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talking about FO's with unfrozen ATPLs. Obviously not talking about super qualified Captains...
Get real
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Old 24th Mar 2020, 10:55
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Originally Posted by Sorath
Seems like all current qualified pilots don't want any new players after the s*** has hit the fan for their future job interviews, as younger cadets and with less FH will be a cheaper hire for the airlines...
Nah.. is just the desperation cadets go trough and willing to almost fly for free, as seen in some of the comments in this thread:

“If I got an airline job I would fly for free for 6 months just to get that job”

Everybody wants their first job, and are literally willing to do anything.

But unfortunately this comes at the price!
T&Cs are getting slashed, and as you said newer guys are willing to work for less..

But 6 months or 1 year later when reality kicks in, all those cadets start to sing a different tune!

They complain, they moan, they had enough!
They start applying to other airlines, after their first 500hr, they start joining unions, they leave and they seek better conditions and pay!

See? Its a vicious circle.

And unfortunately your flight schools, instagram & YouTube doesn’t portray the actual and factual picture of the real airline pilot. Its not all sunsets and selfies and flash watches and look at me attitude.

Theres other side if it too, and this is something thats not published and you won’t know about it till you join the club.

So dont be delusional in this, nobody here is afraid of you, the jet hours experienced guys have, are worth gold in the aviation industry, they are the commanders or future commanders. There is no replacement for it! Certainly not a cadet. But you are the future of this industry, so try set some standards, otherwise soon enough guys In McDonalds will earn more then pilots and robots will take over!
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Old 24th Mar 2020, 11:05
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Originally Posted by Sorath
talking about FO's with unfrozen ATPLs. Obviously not talking about super qualified Captains...
Get real
Line training Captains will have a field day with you, thinking you’re prepared and in equal terms with an FO who’s “been there, done that”.

Your comment shows why many of you, should be getting life experience and/or digging deep and accumulating knowledge before even trying to fly a plane. You think airlines will be queuing to hire you instead of a qualified pilot with jet hours under their belt? Okay then....let’s talk in 6 months.

Ryanair is recruiting guys like you? Wow
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