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Guys the APC is a fantastic deal. I'd have love to have gotten it. Facing down 30K bank loan on top of your training dept isn't a nice thing.
6 year commitment is good no matter what age you are. Eventually during that time you'll likely get back to or close to your home base, you'll make command faster than anywhere else and potential for training roles.
Can not understand what the flack is about.
6 year commitment is good no matter what age you are. Eventually during that time you'll likely get back to or close to your home base, you'll make command faster than anywhere else and potential for training roles.
Can not understand what the flack is about.
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tell me how is this any different from having a 30k+ loan in your bank + interest to pay? Do you think guys who walk in with their "self-paid" TR get to just hit and run whenever they don't fancy something?
If you have cash on hand, by all means paying your own TR is probably wiser if you like to remain flexible, but for most of us - after completing the flight school and MCC we simply don't have 30k to burn.. if you're really pushed on your knees two years down the line and get a nice offer from ME3 or whatever, you can take a loan then and buy yourself out, what's the problem? Most of APC graduates will probably be reasonably happy with what they have and for those that wont be - taking a loan to buy yourself out when you have a seat arranged at a well paid position will be a wiser financial decision anyway - bigger salary - faster repayment, less interest paid..
If you have cash on hand, by all means paying your own TR is probably wiser if you like to remain flexible, but for most of us - after completing the flight school and MCC we simply don't have 30k to burn.. if you're really pushed on your knees two years down the line and get a nice offer from ME3 or whatever, you can take a loan then and buy yourself out, what's the problem? Most of APC graduates will probably be reasonably happy with what they have and for those that wont be - taking a loan to buy yourself out when you have a seat arranged at a well paid position will be a wiser financial decision anyway - bigger salary - faster repayment, less interest paid..
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How can somebody apply for the APC Programme? Is it recommended to redo an MCC course if let's say you are accepted to join this Programm?
Thank you and any ideas would highly be appreciated!
Thank you and any ideas would highly be appreciated!
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Someone is saying that this APC programme is actually not good and they are saying all the negative things about it...
I wanna tell you something positive: with the APC (hoping everything goes good) I could join Ryanair. Without I couldn't, as I don't have 30k for the TR and I don't have a way to ask for a loan. That's the thing!! You don't need to have the money right away. So it's actually very good for whoever doesn't have 30k available right away.
Then they take it from the salary and in total I'll pay more then someone that paid 30k before the TR as they can deduct from taxes payment.. that's true, but at least I can start working like this! Without it, I couldn's.. I couldn't like a lot of other new pilots.
Now you can say that is very bad thing Ryan is doing.. ok, maybe it is (according to me not), but I don't care, everything I want is that job!
I wanna tell you something positive: with the APC (hoping everything goes good) I could join Ryanair. Without I couldn't, as I don't have 30k for the TR and I don't have a way to ask for a loan. That's the thing!! You don't need to have the money right away. So it's actually very good for whoever doesn't have 30k available right away.
Then they take it from the salary and in total I'll pay more then someone that paid 30k before the TR as they can deduct from taxes payment.. that's true, but at least I can start working like this! Without it, I couldn's.. I couldn't like a lot of other new pilots.
Now you can say that is very bad thing Ryan is doing.. ok, maybe it is (according to me not), but I don't care, everything I want is that job!
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Assessment 24
Hallo guys i wanted to share my story with you guys. I as first assessed 2014 and i didn't get the Job. Since then i've been just waiting for a new assessement i have searched and applied to dozens on airliners but no reply. I decided that to apply for Ryanair again last year. I applied in November and got the phone call in december. Note since last year i have been flying (SEP) regulary and updating my CV.
The interview.
I decided to buy a pre assessment pack with simcheck since it was almost 6 years since i did my MCC and aslo to be family with the B737.. I can say it was worth every penny and would recommend it to everybody.
Arrival to dublin headquaters.
One of the assessor picked as up and went through how the day would be. went through a powerPoint presentations .. Please listen kinley on the presentation they give you good tips and pitch and power settings. The aslo tell you that everything during the sim ride can be confirmed by using your eyes.. they will be no tricks or something like that. Pay attention to that.. EVERYTHING IN THE SIM ASSESSEMENT CAN BE CONFIRMED BY YOU LOOKING AT THE INSTRUMENTS OR OUTSIDE.
I was called for the interview first
general Hr questions and questions about my current MEP aircraft.. Da 42
Explain the engines of the DA42? how many horse powers does the engine have. I didn't know the answer so i told him i didn't know but i could find it out.
How many batteries does it have?
Describe the de icing system?
Then he asked my generall questions about the 737
which engines?
how many seats?
Number of crew?
How many emergency exits. I looked behind him and saw a 737 so i started counting the exits. He laughed at me and said that its good that im using my eyes to confirm
Next up was the sim.
i was pm TNT4G departure out of BHX after climbing to 5000 ft sid cancled and did some airwork followed by accelerations to 250 and descel to 170 .. dont forget the flaps scheduel. set 210 first then flaps one then 190 flaps 5 then set speed 170. the sim was frozen and he asked us where we were and after that we had an emergency ATC strike at our destination so we did a DODAR and decided to head back to BHX.
Dont forget to ask about the weather and aslo if the weight is limiting if you are to heavy to land. The assessor liked this question. After that did a NIts brief and a PA. After that full procedure raw data approach and land with no issues . I had exactly the same apart from that we were on a differnt QDM when he froze the sim. After that i was cleared dct to BHX NDB and then cleared the approach when approaching the FIX.
I got positive feeaback on the 27th. Unfortunatly my partner was rejected. I dont know why coz he flew really well and we had good CRM in the cockpit. helped each other all the time and talked about everything.
Make sure that you are an active PM and aslo help the PF in all ways you can. And as PF make sure the keep the PF on the Loop when doing the excirses and aslo what you expect from him. I had my PM read the distance on the DME for me so i knew when to commence the turn to intercept and aslo once intercepted make sure you make small corrections dont overbank or apply to much power you will destabalised. Make small small corrections.
I wish you all the best and dont give up on your dreams.
The interview.
I decided to buy a pre assessment pack with simcheck since it was almost 6 years since i did my MCC and aslo to be family with the B737.. I can say it was worth every penny and would recommend it to everybody.
Arrival to dublin headquaters.
One of the assessor picked as up and went through how the day would be. went through a powerPoint presentations .. Please listen kinley on the presentation they give you good tips and pitch and power settings. The aslo tell you that everything during the sim ride can be confirmed by using your eyes.. they will be no tricks or something like that. Pay attention to that.. EVERYTHING IN THE SIM ASSESSEMENT CAN BE CONFIRMED BY YOU LOOKING AT THE INSTRUMENTS OR OUTSIDE.
I was called for the interview first
general Hr questions and questions about my current MEP aircraft.. Da 42
Explain the engines of the DA42? how many horse powers does the engine have. I didn't know the answer so i told him i didn't know but i could find it out.
How many batteries does it have?
Describe the de icing system?
Then he asked my generall questions about the 737
which engines?
how many seats?
Number of crew?
How many emergency exits. I looked behind him and saw a 737 so i started counting the exits. He laughed at me and said that its good that im using my eyes to confirm
Next up was the sim.
i was pm TNT4G departure out of BHX after climbing to 5000 ft sid cancled and did some airwork followed by accelerations to 250 and descel to 170 .. dont forget the flaps scheduel. set 210 first then flaps one then 190 flaps 5 then set speed 170. the sim was frozen and he asked us where we were and after that we had an emergency ATC strike at our destination so we did a DODAR and decided to head back to BHX.
Dont forget to ask about the weather and aslo if the weight is limiting if you are to heavy to land. The assessor liked this question. After that did a NIts brief and a PA. After that full procedure raw data approach and land with no issues . I had exactly the same apart from that we were on a differnt QDM when he froze the sim. After that i was cleared dct to BHX NDB and then cleared the approach when approaching the FIX.
I got positive feeaback on the 27th. Unfortunatly my partner was rejected. I dont know why coz he flew really well and we had good CRM in the cockpit. helped each other all the time and talked about everything.
Make sure that you are an active PM and aslo help the PF in all ways you can. And as PF make sure the keep the PF on the Loop when doing the excirses and aslo what you expect from him. I had my PM read the distance on the DME for me so i knew when to commence the turn to intercept and aslo once intercepted make sure you make small corrections dont overbank or apply to much power you will destabalised. Make small small corrections.
I wish you all the best and dont give up on your dreams.
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For the sim part: are you free to set-up the EFIS-panel to your liking at the approaching? Approach mode or map mode, center/not center... Or should it remain in approach (rose) mode for instance? And what is the wind aloft at 2.500 ft (for the holding part)?
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Fredbr. Also in map mode the loc and gs are available at the PFD. In app mode, only heading is displayed (at the ND and PFD) However, during approach I prefer to see my track. I think it’s easier to make proper corrections with track displayed, instead of hdg.
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That's correct, if you don't have the APP you won't do the precision app.
Your assessment sounded really chilly and friendly! I'd pay to see you counting the emergency exits, I am sure that the guy reminded you when assessing whether you pass or not! The outcome... it is obvius. Well done mate!
Any report from your comrades in the same day? Difficult questions or w/e?
That's correct, if you don't have the APP you won't do the precision app.
Your assessment sounded really chilly and friendly! I'd pay to see you counting the emergency exits, I am sure that the guy reminded you when assessing whether you pass or not! The outcome... it is obvius. Well done mate!
Any report from your comrades in the same day? Difficult questions or w/e?
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You are free to use which ever mode you are comfortable with. Just try and keep it simple.. We used vor and APP mode but you can select which mode suits you best.
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Hey guys, do you have a clue whether it's a good idea to opt out from "The Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment Businesses Regulations 2003"? I got such form from the the RYR accounting agency and I may choose whether to opt out or not. Any ideas? Thanks!
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Ladies and Gents,
I have an assessment with RYR in the coming weeks. Although I would love to work for RYR I do need to weigh up some facts and figures. I have a couple of questions about the whole process which I can't seem to find any previous posts on.
The first and second question is for those that have completed their TR.
1. Did you get the base you requested? if not was it even in the same country? If the base was overseas can you still commute on the Ryr network? (actually three questions!)
2. I know the initial TR cost is 29500Eu. Could someone give a rough breakdown of first year expenses for hotels, uniform, travel etc? I would also like to know approx first year salary (please feel free to PM if you don't want this to be public)
3. Lastly a random one. For the assessment day most people probably have to check out of their hotels unless staying a second night. What do people do with their luggage? I wouldn't ordinarily turn up to an interview with a small suitcase haha
Thanks
I have an assessment with RYR in the coming weeks. Although I would love to work for RYR I do need to weigh up some facts and figures. I have a couple of questions about the whole process which I can't seem to find any previous posts on.
The first and second question is for those that have completed their TR.
1. Did you get the base you requested? if not was it even in the same country? If the base was overseas can you still commute on the Ryr network? (actually three questions!)
2. I know the initial TR cost is 29500Eu. Could someone give a rough breakdown of first year expenses for hotels, uniform, travel etc? I would also like to know approx first year salary (please feel free to PM if you don't want this to be public)
3. Lastly a random one. For the assessment day most people probably have to check out of their hotels unless staying a second night. What do people do with their luggage? I wouldn't ordinarily turn up to an interview with a small suitcase haha
Thanks
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1. The base preference is being taken into account to some extent. Depending on what your preference is it might take up to 1 - 2 years to get to the base you selected as number one (if it's a small one with 1 or 2 aircraft). That's my rough assesment based on what I heard from people around me. No guarantee... Yeah you can commute free of charge while wearing a FR uniform.
2. Type rating costs are 29500 + approx 10000 for the rest. 40k EUR all in. The block hour salary is not a secret information as it's written all over the internet. Look at the page 361 of this thread.
3. Any hotel on this planet will let you leave your luggage at the reception after you check out. Even if you take a small trolley with you to the assesment, noone will be bothered. The guys are there to asses your performance not to check how many bags you have with you. Stay at the Travelodge Swords. It's cheap, the the rooms are nice and it's round the corner from FR HQ.
2. Type rating costs are 29500 + approx 10000 for the rest. 40k EUR all in. The block hour salary is not a secret information as it's written all over the internet. Look at the page 361 of this thread.
3. Any hotel on this planet will let you leave your luggage at the reception after you check out. Even if you take a small trolley with you to the assesment, noone will be bothered. The guys are there to asses your performance not to check how many bags you have with you. Stay at the Travelodge Swords. It's cheap, the the rooms are nice and it's round the corner from FR HQ.
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3. Any hotel on this planet will let you leave your luggage at the reception after you check out. Even if you take a small trolley with you to the assesment, noone will be bothered. The guys are there to asses your performance not to check how many bags you have with you. Stay at the Travelodge Swords. It's cheap, the the rooms are nice and it's round the corner from FR HQ.
Thanks for the info. Although the salary is easy to find online, it's not so easy to find out the first year expenses which significantly add to the cost.
I will make sure my luggage has 'Ryanair' and 'I want to be a pilot' stickers covering it! #inception
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They really don’t care if you’re bringing a suitcase or whatsoever. The assessors are very friendly and willing to help you. Let them know you’ve got a flight to catch and they probably schedule in the morning group.
They really don’t care if you’re bringing a suitcase or whatsoever. The assessors are very friendly and willing to help you. Let them know you’ve got a flight to catch and they probably schedule in the morning group.